vonerik012 Posted August 4, 2008 Posted August 4, 2008 Yeah, ugly male millionaires really have a tough time meeting women anywhere.... Ugly female millionaires, yes. They actually are out of luck.
erinnthegirl Posted August 7, 2008 Posted August 7, 2008 okay, so im i big girl, and after reading this thread, i just thought i'd add my own two cents... firstly, not all woman have such superficial and selfish expectations of a man... me personally, i would rather be with a nice guy who understand me, than some rich ***hole who looks nice in his expensive clothing and drives an expensive car... i cant speak for all women, but i think most of us value a connection with a man, more than their appearance or financial standing. secondly, as a bigger girl, i will say this to the person who stated "fat is ugly, being overweight is unattractive" - this may be your opinion, and a popular opinion at that, but please do not generalize. there are a Lot of men out there who would prefer the soft curves and shape of a plus size woman to the tight hard shape of a more fit girl. its all about personal preference, but dont assume that your own opinion is standard. in my own case, i do eat very healthy, save for some drinks on the weekend. i also exersize for 1.5 hours, 4 days a week. i have always been what is considered plus size, but i am proportionate and healthy. however, it still hurts to know that i will never be considered beautiful by societies standards becasue of my size. i know, as most people do, that everyone has their own specific taste as far as what attracts them. i would date a guy who was any size or shape really, but i'd be more likely to be interested if he was heavily tattooed. its all preference. and everyone is entitled to that, without judgement. just be carefull with generalizations and discounting entire groups of people based on their appearance. there is one common truth amoungst all humans... one day, we will all be old and wierd looking - when that happens, you better hope there is something besides attraction keeping you together.
bigmanpayne Posted August 7, 2008 Posted August 7, 2008 I was called a shallow ---hole, and a jerk. I'm honestly not that picky about looks, but the one thing I do care about is weight. I am not attracted to women that weigh more than I do. I'm not a big guy 5'7" 140 lbs. So I prefer women that are petite. There is some leeway depending on build/frame. I pointed out her hyporcrisy since she has listed that guys need to be at least 5'6", but I'm apparently the shallow one. not shallow. actually you are just being honest. i understand not wanting a woman thats bigger than you - most men want to be able to pick up their women, toss them around etc. if you are small and your woman is big - you can ex that out. everyone has preferences dont sweat it.
vanilla87 Posted August 26, 2008 Posted August 26, 2008 I was called a shallow ---hole, and a jerk. I'm honestly not that picky about looks, but the one thing I do care about is weight. I am not attracted to women that weigh more than I do. I'm not a big guy 5'7" 140 lbs. So I prefer women that are petite. There is some leeway depending on build/frame. I pointed out her hyporcrisy since she has listed that guys need to be at least 5'6", but I'm apparently the shallow one. I agree and disagree, but everyone has their own preference really, even if you admit it or not, everyone does deep down and no one wants to seem shallow or self-centered on a topic like this. I'll admit, I'm 5'5" and fluctuate between 120 - 125lbs, sometimes down to 118, and I need a guy who is taller then me, but more so not my preference or choice, by the fact that ever since I was born all the men in the family after hitting 16 are 5'8" or taller. I have one cousin that is 6'7", so I'm used to really tall guys. I also can not date a guy who is under 140lbs, cause then if he is a thin as me, he might break too! Oh and dating a guy that is too thick, that just gets to me too. Anyway, I've dated a guy once who was 5'6", but it was awkward for me, due to the fact, the shortest guy I've ever dated was 5'8" and weighed at most of 145lbs. So if I'm shallow, I don't care, cause its just looks. To me what goes on inside the pretty little head is more important, the looks are great for the physical, but to deal with someone in the long run, mind over body, is a big deal to me.
Jersey Shortie Posted August 26, 2008 Posted August 26, 2008 To the OP, I don't think your preferences are out of the world or anything, they are your preferences. It's a little lame for that girl to "call you" on your preferences but think hers are more noble. With that said, beauty is in the eye of the beholder. I tend to like tall, geek chic guys with roman noses. Or Jewish or Italian guys. Glasses are a plus. Intelligence turns me on so maybe that's why I like this type. This doesn't mean I have always ended up with this type. I haven't and have been very attracted to guys that don't meet my type. My friend likes buff gym guys. My other friend like asian guys. My one guy friend does actually like bigger women. And the list goes on.
soserious1 Posted August 26, 2008 Posted August 26, 2008 my soon to be ex is 5ft 6, I'm 5ft 9, I always liked shorter guys because a lot of them have really outragously funny personalties. You are totally within your rights to have weight/height preferences and it's a lot better to reject somebody right away who doesn't meet those preferences rather than dragging things along.
katherinev87 Posted August 26, 2008 Posted August 26, 2008 Women will judge you on your height, income, education, etc etc. I think it is very lazy of a woman to be overweight, and still judge men on the above criteria. It sure is a lot easier to meet a weight requirement, than all of the requirements women set on men. um...what century are we in exactly? It is not just men that are judged on the points of income and education....there are many men that judge women based on that criteria...unless I'm the only woman that's been put in that situation. The term 'gold-digger' does not apply just to women. I, however, do not have a huge problem with women/men having a certain criteria for any of the previously mentioned areas (weight, height, job/career, income, education, blah blah blah). Most everyone knows enough about themselves to know what would be compatible for THEM...meaning, if a man prefers his woman on the petite side, or if a woman prefers a guy who sits at a desk, as opposed to under a car...that's their perogative. That being said however, saying this... I think it is very lazy of a woman to be overweight, and still judge men on the above criteria. is a little on the unfair side, I think. A woman should not have to limit her criteria to say, overweight men...simply because she herself is overweight. I don't believe an overweight man would have the same limitations placed on him....meaning, he could still have his pick of the lot, yet still not be called 'lazy'.
D-Jam Posted August 26, 2008 Posted August 26, 2008 I was called a shallow ---hole, and a jerk. I'm honestly not that picky about looks, but the one thing I do care about is weight. I am not attracted to women that weigh more than I do. I'm not a big guy 5'7" 140 lbs. So I prefer women that are petite. There is some leeway depending on build/frame. I pointed out her hyporcrisy since she has listed that guys need to be at least 5'6", but I'm apparently the shallow one. The problem is that those who don't fit the mold of what someone wants in a mate will always call people "shallow" for their tastes. It's more their own self-esteem talking and thus they lash out as the opposite sex when they aren't what others want. I don't like very overweight women. Doesn't mean she's gotta be some skinny model or toned athlete, but if she's very large I'm not interested. I've been called shallow for my feelings, but later people realized that me taking on a fat women would be like women taking on the doormat nice guys. In the end, you're settling on someone as opposed to being with someone you like. Only thing I tell ANYONE with physical requirements for a mate: 1) Make sure you're not writing off too much of the single populace. You don't want overweight? Cool. You want skinny with big breasts, long dark hair, perfect face, and toned legs? Nice...but don't sit there hoping on it if there is only one of those out of every 500 women. 2) Make sure you're something that male/female would want. So you want a thin, healthy weighted woman? If you're a big as Homer Simpson, then don't complain when those women won't want you. You're a woman of a 5'8" height? Then bear in mind how few men there will be out there who are 6"3" or taller. Nothing wrong with wanting standards, just make sure they're realistic.
Alma Mobley Posted August 26, 2008 Posted August 26, 2008 To the OP -- I don't think you are shallow. You are a bit on the thin side for your height, so naturally you want a woman who "fits" you aesthetically. (I hope I said that right!) I don't think there's anything wrong with that at all. Good luck!
SourKisses Posted August 29, 2008 Posted August 29, 2008 This is an interesting topic, I'm a little over weight, a size 12. Caused from depression and eatting "comfort" food. Five years ago I was a size 2. I have a boyfriend who is 5'11 and he ways the same as me. I'm 5'4. He is skinny. However I'm plump. I have curves, large breasts, love handles and a wide butt. Although my belly is nicely shaped despite it being plump. The OP. Don't think I am lazy, you have never had the issue on trying to loose weight. Losing it is hard. I look at myself when I'm standing next to my ultra skinny cousin (whom is seen as sexy) and recall the looks from various guys when I was as skinny as her. Not a day goes by that I wish I was my former weight when I was 19. So I can wear figure hugging shorts and tops. Now days I wear clothes that go with my figure. I secretly call my self Mrs Sprat and my boyfriend Jack after the nursery rhyme. But as others have said everyone has their prefernces, I love men with facial hair.
bigmanpayne Posted August 29, 2008 Posted August 29, 2008 I'm not either. Does that make me a racist homophobe??! no. but i am curious why?
bigmanpayne Posted August 29, 2008 Posted August 29, 2008 Only thing I tell ANYONE with physical requirements for a mate: 1) Make sure you're not writing off too much of the single populace. You don't want overweight? Cool. You want skinny with big breasts, long dark hair, perfect face, and toned legs? Nice...but don't sit there hoping on it if there is only one of those out of every 500 women. 2) Make sure you're something that male/female would want. So you want a thin, healthy weighted woman? If you're a big as Homer Simpson, then don't complain when those women won't want you. You're a woman of a 5'8" height? Then bear in mind how few men there will be out there who are 6"3" or taller. Nothing wrong with wanting standards, just make sure they're realistic. AMEN! i cant tell you how many big chicks i talk to say they will only date a skinny man or athletic man, etc. it bugs me. there is one in particular that is lazy and fat, but will only date athletic men but she gets away with it because her fat is not sloppy i guess, and it mostly goest to her chest and backside which a lot of men like. plus she is good looking. i think there is a double standard between men and women.
Balthazar Posted August 29, 2008 Posted August 29, 2008 I'm 210 pounds myself, have to get it down to a lean 195 or so. I think it may be the twinkies......
almost famous Posted August 29, 2008 Posted August 29, 2008 Maybe she doesn't perceive herself as "big." Maybe she dates guys who enjoy curvacious women, the whole hips, boobs and butt thing. AMEN! i cant tell you how many big chicks i talk to say they will only date a skinny man or athletic man, etc. it bugs me. there is one in particular that is lazy and fat, but will only date athletic men but she gets away with it because her fat is not sloppy i guess, and it mostly goest to her chest and backside which a lot of men like. plus she is good looking. i think there is a double standard between men and women.
bigmanpayne Posted August 29, 2008 Posted August 29, 2008 Maybe she doesn't perceive herself as "big." Maybe she dates guys who enjoy curvacious women, the whole hips, boobs and butt thing. i am not interested in her perception, i am only interested in reality.
almost famous Posted August 31, 2008 Posted August 31, 2008 Lots of other men might not think she's big, though, just curvy and sexy.
CaliGuy Posted August 31, 2008 Posted August 31, 2008 I was called a shallow ---hole, and a jerk. I'm honestly not that picky about looks, but the one thing I do care about is weight. I am not attracted to women that weigh more than I do. I'm not a big guy 5'7" 140 lbs. So I prefer women that are petite. There is some leeway depending on build/frame. I pointed out her hyporcrisy since she has listed that guys need to be at least 5'6", but I'm apparently the shallow one. Umm why should you care what others think? It's your life to live. You don't need anyone's approval.
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