angie2443 Posted July 29, 2008 Posted July 29, 2008 Why doesn't Hillary leave Bill Clinton? I just came across an old cartoon of Bill getting "serviced" and had to wonder why Hillary doesn't just leave. I used to think it was because she had all these ambitions that she felt she couldn't fulfill without her husband, but I think her political career will soon be over anyways (I could be wrong). Her child is out of the house and it seem like a loveless marriage. I'm just wondering if anyone can understand her thinking here and understand why she just doesn't leave.
Lizzie60 Posted July 29, 2008 Posted July 29, 2008 Why doesn't Hillary leave Bill Clinton? I just came across an old cartoon of Bill getting "serviced" and had to wonder why Hillary doesn't just leave. I used to think it was because she had all these ambitions that she felt she couldn't fulfill without her husband, but I think her political career will soon be over anyways (I could be wrong). Her child is out of the house and it seem like a loveless marriage. I'm just wondering if anyone can understand her thinking here and understand why she just doesn't leave. Hum.. maybe you should email her and ask her that question.. it could be a zillion things..
Author angie2443 Posted July 29, 2008 Author Posted July 29, 2008 Hum.. maybe you should email her and ask her that question.. it could be a zillion things.. If I had her email address I might, but I doubt she'd answer.
Angel1111 Posted July 29, 2008 Posted July 29, 2008 At first, I think it was about her career and image. I also think it's about control, and that they have the classic parent/child relationship - where he's the child, of course. He wants a mommy and she wants the authority. Which answers the next question: why doesn't he leave? I lost all respect for her when she continued to stay with him. I lost respect for him when he said that he smoked marijauna but didn't inhale. No one should be surprised by his lies, least of all Hilary. She acted like she was doing something noble by staying with him, when all it did was make her look as stupid as him. Perfect match.
SueBee3490 Posted July 29, 2008 Posted July 29, 2008 Why doesn't Hillary leave Bill Clinton? I just came across an old cartoon of Bill getting "serviced" and had to wonder why Hillary doesn't just leave. I used to think it was because she had all these ambitions that she felt she couldn't fulfill without her husband, but I think her political career will soon be over anyways (I could be wrong). Her child is out of the house and it seem like a loveless marriage. I'm just wondering if anyone can understand her thinking here and understand why she just doesn't leave. Angie, You say you think it is loveless. I don't know, it seems the pics or videos, etc., I've seen of them, they seem loving toward each other (i.e., holding hands, arms around each other, etc.). Maybe she actually got forgave him and wants to keep the marriage together. I give her credit, I couldn't do it.
Author angie2443 Posted July 29, 2008 Author Posted July 29, 2008 Angie, You say you think it is loveless. I don't know, it seems the pics or videos, etc., I've seen of them, they seem loving toward each other (i.e., holding hands, arms around each other, etc.). Maybe she actually got forgave him and wants to keep the marriage together. I give her credit, I couldn't do it. The continouis in my mind would erode any love I would have for my husband. I also don't believe you can love someone and keep cheating on them. I could be wrong. I just don't understand this way of thinking though. How can you love yourself and stay in a marriage like that? I guess that's why I'm asking.
SueBee3490 Posted July 29, 2008 Posted July 29, 2008 The continouis in my mind would erode any love I would have for my husband. I also don't believe you can love someone and keep cheating on them. I could be wrong. I just don't understand this way of thinking though. How can you love yourself and stay in a marriage like that? I guess that's why I'm asking. I don't believe this either. I tried to tell my H that he couldn't have loved me and kept cheating on me (for over 2 1/2 yrs!) but he swears he has always loved me. Bull****! I think something in this very public life is the fact that the whole country, even world, knew about his infidelity. I would be so humiliated & embarassed that I couldn't stay with him. I would feel, as you have asked the question here, that everyone would be asking "why stay with him?" Then of course there are those who don't think maybe he cheats because he's just a scumbag, but there must be something wrong with Hillary that he has to look outside the marriage for sex. In my case, not anything wrong with me, my H was just a scumbag!
Author angie2443 Posted July 29, 2008 Author Posted July 29, 2008 I lost all respect for her when she continued to stay with him. I lost respect for him when he said that he smoked marijauna but didn't inhale. . The first few times I smoked marijauna (this was in my youth so please dont' judge) I didn't inhale. I didn't understand the concept. If I had smoked cigarettes then I would have known how. Anyways, I didn't get high and didn't understand what the big deal was. Anyways, as far as the reasons you give for them staying together, it sounds like he!! to me. You could be right though. I just don't get it.
Author angie2443 Posted July 29, 2008 Author Posted July 29, 2008 I don't believe this either. I tried to tell my H that he couldn't have loved me and kept cheating on me (for over 2 1/2 yrs!) but he swears he has always loved me. Bull****! I think something in this very public life is the fact that the whole country, even world, knew about his infidelity. I would be so humiliated & embarassed that I couldn't stay with him. I would feel, as you have asked the question here, that everyone would be asking "why stay with him?" Then of course there are those who don't think maybe he cheats because he's just a scumbag, but there must be something wrong with Hillary that he has to look outside the marriage for sex. In my case, not anything wrong with me, my H was just a scumbag! Sorry you had to go through that. I hope it's better now. I think it's the humiliation factor that makes me wonder most about Hillary Clinton. How can you keep yourself in a humiliating situation, especially when it's so public? For some odd reason it makes me cringe. I would feel better if I found out she was getting divorced. I know it might not make sense, but it just would.
Virgo1982 Posted July 29, 2008 Posted July 29, 2008 Many of the world's leaders engage in extra-marital relations. Some of the OW wind up missing. Some wind up with book deals. Some we don't hear about because they get what they want out of the deal. I think it was a slap in the face that his affair was made public.
Author angie2443 Posted July 29, 2008 Author Posted July 29, 2008 Why would you assume it is a loveless marriage? We see what the media wants us to see. Do you think that they will sell more papers if there is strife in their marriage or more if they have actually worked on their issues and forgiven each other? I would say, unless we are the bed or the pillow we don't know what goes on behind closed doors. Hell for all we know, they could genuinely like and want to be with each other, whether it is love or not. And her career is a long way from over. She is a force. I certainly don't know what goes on behind closed doors. I just see how someone can claim to love someone and put them through the humiliation of bieng cheated on over and over. I don't understand how someone can let themselves be humiliated over and over. I watched my father cheat on my mom over and over. It killed a little piece of her at a time untill one day, she just couldn't take it anymore and divorced her. It was the one action my mother took regaurding her marriage that I respected.
silktricks Posted July 29, 2008 Posted July 29, 2008 Since it isn't our marriage or our life it seems silly to talk about it as if we knew what was going on in their private lives. People speculate and then draw conclusions on their speculation as if it really means something :lmao:. But for what it's worth, it certainly is possible to love someone and cheat on them - even cheat a lot. My FIL cheated on my MIL - repeatedly - she finally divorced him, but even though he later remarried (after she remarried) it was obvious to everyone (including his then current wife) that he loved his first wife until the day he died.
Virgo1982 Posted July 29, 2008 Posted July 29, 2008 I certainly don't know what goes on behind closed doors. I just see how someone can claim to love someone and put them through the humiliation of bieng cheated on over and over. I don't understand how someone can let themselves be humiliated over and over. I watched my father cheat on my mom over and over. It killed a little piece of her at a time untill one day, she just couldn't take it anymore and divorced her. It was the one action my mother took regaurding her marriage that I respected. Love is far from logic for most of us. Love brings the hope that the other person can change. Sometimes people fear starting over or feel there isn't anything out there better for them.
porter218 Posted July 29, 2008 Posted July 29, 2008 Maybe she doesn't like the sexual part of a relationship so she is fine with him going elsewhere.?. Maybe she just values him as a good friend and housemate with similar interests politically. You can't ever really know what goes on inside other peoples marriages. What works for some may not work for others.
whichwayisup Posted July 29, 2008 Posted July 29, 2008 Who knows and who cares. Obviously whatever is between them, works and it's possible that she has cheated too, she's just not stupid enough to get caught like her dear old hubby.
LucreziaBorgia Posted July 29, 2008 Posted July 29, 2008 If you dig deep enough, you'll see that there are similar allegations against her too: with men and with women. It wouldn't surprise me. I always thought their marriage was more about parenting, friends and partners more than it was romance and sex.
quankanne Posted July 29, 2008 Posted July 29, 2008 it's a classic case of codependence, IMO – they have feelings for each other, and the relationship is too important to leave ... or fix.
mark982 Posted July 30, 2008 Posted July 30, 2008 maybe she sticks with him, just to see what he's going to screw up next.
Miranda Posted July 30, 2008 Posted July 30, 2008 I'm convinced it's always been a cerebrally calculated move to get her the furthest possible - just as marrying him likely was. She definitely seems to be all about whatever can get her where she wants to be.
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