KinAZ Posted July 17, 2008 Posted July 17, 2008 You wished to have sex to produce children, it was its intended purpose and birth control was a "cheat", divorce rates are really a problem created by society not by biology. Many animals mate for life including Apes, it is inherently instinctual. And in say all of that, you've once again totally ignored everything I asked about sexual attraction. (the whole point) And still, you have nothing to go against the findings about genetic dissimilarity. (again, the point) And, especially considering that you've continuously avoided... the point. LOL, this has become very... pointless. Good night sir.
Author Shygirl15 Posted July 17, 2008 Author Posted July 17, 2008 Because AIDs wasn't as much of a problem in America as it was in Africa, I believe a gay pilot originally brought AIDs from Africa into the US which caused its spread here.[/quote] Well, I hear HIV originated from America. The story from my African side is that some American scientists injected HIV to some African prisoners, and that's how the disease was spread in Africa.
Lyssa Posted July 17, 2008 Posted July 17, 2008 - Do we date our own race just for social acceptance but secretly desire to be with people of different race? I have no problems dating people from other races. I have friends from all races and it is interesting when we visit each other during our festivities. So many things you learn from other races. - Do we genuinely like/love people of different race, or is it just our deepest dark desires to do the filthiest sexual acts with people of another race that makes us date them? I do. I genuinely love people of different race/religion. IME (not that many!), men from my race are more likely to have filthy sex. Then again, it depends on what one thinks filthy sex is!
Sks Posted July 17, 2008 Posted July 17, 2008 And in say all of that, you've once again totally ignored everything I asked about sexual attraction. (the whole point) And still, you have nothing to go against the findings about genetic dissimilarity. (again, the point) And, especially considering that you've continuously avoided... the point. LOL, this has become very... pointless. Good night sir. You made your last 3 posts about how indiscriminate breeding when horny is the sole purpose that drives you, and that once you created children only then did you care for them. The thing is your idea of indiscriminate breeding just doesn't exist or else everyone would be having sex with the first person they saw regardless of any other factor. You said that monogamy was a socially created idea which had no natural relevance even though many animals, including apes breed for life. You also said how in-fact people look to breed outside of their race even though everything points to the exact opposite.
KinAZ Posted July 17, 2008 Posted July 17, 2008 You made your last 3 posts about how indiscriminate breeding when horny is the sole purpose that drives you, and that once you created children only then did you care for them. The thing is you idea of indiscriminate breeding just doesn't exist or else everyone would be having sex with the first person they saw regardless of any other factor. You said that monogamy was a socially created idea which had no natural relevance even though many animals, including apes breed for life. You also said how in-fact people look to breed outside of their race even though everything points to the exact opposite. I never said indiscriminately anything. Go, read it again. OBVIOUSLY... genetic dissimilarity requires what? Discrimination of some sort, is that right? Additionally, I also listed desired traits as well. I also listed social factors. I listed a number of things but NONE of that has to do with the actual point. Now you're doing nothing more than twisting what I've said and taking it out the actual context... I guess because you can't argue against the actual point... And again, I didn't say all people, and I CLEARLY said I was not speaking of all people with regard to race. I clearly said that I was not implying that all people are naturally attracted to anything at all, but rather that people are often more attracted to people who are genetically dissimilar. For the people who are attracted to those outside of their race it is often because of genetic dissimilarity. You have not said ONE single thing to possibly refute that, not one single thing based on fact and not opinion. Read what I say... not what you want me to mean. I take care to be specific in my posts. So, now, you're just being annoying.
Crazy.S Posted July 17, 2008 Posted July 17, 2008 It's 2008 already and I don't think people live to breed like they used to.
Author Shygirl15 Posted July 17, 2008 Author Posted July 17, 2008 I do. I genuinely love people of different race/religion. IME (not that many!), men from my race are more likely to have filthy sex. Then again, it depends on what one thinks filthy sex is![/quote] I think most people consider filthy sex kinda like what we see in hardcore porn movies.. There's this black guy in my office. He looves porn. However he says he can only watch white women on porn movies, and infact, he loves interracial porn, with a black guy and white woman. I figured secretly he must fantasize doing what he sees in those inter. porn movies. In real life, he has never dated interracially and does not desire to do so. This is why I wondered if sometime people (especially men) secretly fantasize to do the dirtiest with persons of different race? And if so, why?
Crazy.S Posted July 17, 2008 Posted July 17, 2008 taboos can be fetishes, even though interracial relationships aren't really taboos... i was in one for 4 years
luvmy2ns Posted July 17, 2008 Posted July 17, 2008 I'm pointing out a truth, you don't wish to reproduce with those who don't have same traits as use. If I went to a planet filled with green females its unlikely I would wish to breed with them, it indicates something is wrong. Conversely they wouldn't want to breed with me as my Caucasian skin would indicate that something was wrong with me to them. Pretty basic, Your type of person is why there is so much racial tension in this country.
Lyssa Posted July 17, 2008 Posted July 17, 2008 In real life, he has never dated interracially and does not desire to do so. Did you ask him why he doesn't intend to?
Author Shygirl15 Posted July 18, 2008 Author Posted July 18, 2008 Did you ask him why he doesn't intend to? Yes. He never admitted any interest in another race, infact he said he's feels disgusted at the thought of dating people of another race. But clearly, deep down he fantasizes about them, so I thought he's in denial. Many people are not willing to face the social challenge interracial dating can bring in their lives, and would rather live in denial.
Sks Posted July 18, 2008 Posted July 18, 2008 Yes. He never admitted any interest in another race, infact he said he's feels disgusted at the thought of dating people of another race. But clearly, deep down he fantasizes about them, so I thought he's in denial. Many people are not willing to face the social challenge interracial dating can bring in their lives, and would rather live in denial. Or he simply doesn't have an interest in it beyond being a novelty fetish,
woods321 Posted July 18, 2008 Posted July 18, 2008 There is a difference between sex, and love for many men. Men do not want to marry every woman they think of having sex with. Many men have an asian fantasy, black girl fantasy, etc. This does not mean they want to have that woman as a girlfriend.
trubella Posted July 18, 2008 Posted July 18, 2008 Many men have an asian fantasy, black girl fantasy, etc. This does not mean they want to have that woman as a girlfriend. think we've established that many men have those kindof fantasies. i've run into my share of white men looking to *try* black, but there are also a decent amount of guys who could care less about color and genuinely want more than just a fling as well.
LolitaAnastasia Posted July 19, 2008 Posted July 19, 2008 This is an interesting topic, I'm mixed race. Although I was raised by my cacuasian grandparents. I have only been with cacuasian men. I don't know why. I have kissed a dark man before and I thought it was neat. My boyfriends (past and present) both didn't seem to care what race I was. Although I do find it interesting when they lay their arm around you or have their hand on your arm and you see the colour different. A nice contrast My favourite quote on this is from a MadTV skit where this character Bunifa was doing a video tape for a dating agency and she says "You white boys can call me too, cause as far as I'm concerned Vanilla and chocolate still makes choclate." LOL.
DunnoWhat Posted July 19, 2008 Posted July 19, 2008 You made your last 3 posts about how indiscriminate breeding when horny is the sole purpose that drives you, and that once you created children only then did you care for them. The thing is your idea of indiscriminate breeding just doesn't exist or else everyone would be having sex with the first person they saw regardless of any other factor. You said that monogamy was a socially created idea which had no natural relevance even though many animals, including apes breed for life. You also said how in-fact people look to breed outside of their race even though everything points to the exact opposite. I agree with Sks. You don't see monkeys wanting to breed with apes or cats wanting to breed with dogs. Interracial breeding is a good way to destroy a race alright.
oceangrl Posted July 19, 2008 Posted July 19, 2008 Dogs and cats?? So interracial dating is like mating with a different species? Sorry, but your statement is incorrect--you are comparing interracial breeding to breeding outside of your species. Have you studied taxonomy? A group of organisms in which individuals are members of the species if they sufficiently conform to certain fixed properties. The clusters of variations or phenotypes within specimens (i.e. longer and shorter tails) would differentiate the species. This method was used as a "classical" method of determining species, such as with Linnaeus early in evolutionary theory.
DunnoWhat Posted July 19, 2008 Posted July 19, 2008 Dogs and cats?? So interracial dating is like mating with a different species? Sorry, but your statement is incorrect--you are comparing interracial breeding to breeding outside of your species. Have you studied taxonomy? A group of organisms in which individuals are members of the species if they sufficiently conform to certain fixed properties. The clusters of variations or phenotypes within specimens (i.e. longer and shorter tails) would differentiate the species. This method was used as a "classical" method of determining species, such as with Linnaeus early in evolutionary theory. And how many methods are there? Everybody has different opinions. Humans and apes evolved differently as does White people, Asian people and Black people over thousands of years. I hate when people say we're all the same when clearly we're not. The fastest men in the world over 100 meters on a flat surface are all Blacks and the strongest men in the world are all Whites... but maybe it's just a coincidence and we're all the same!!
oceangrl Posted July 19, 2008 Posted July 19, 2008 You say we are different from not only appearance but also functionally different. Well what about dogs? Some dogs are made to run faster, and some are more aggressive. Are they both dogs then? Yes. Just because one is genetically more aggressive, it still doesn't change the fact that its a dog. The reason why some people run faster is because of the type of muscle fibers they have. Their muscles differ in the way they use their energy ATP. So their muscles metabolize energy in different ways. But the basic mechanics of how muscles work in humans is the same. The anatomy is the essentially the same. The groups of muscles and their positions are the same. Same is true about skin color. Everyone's skin color is controlled by melanocytes. Everyone has them. The only difference is that black people make a different form of melanin...asians mnake a different form also. We all make some form of melanin and the melanin is made by melanocytes. We all reproduce the same way, and we all follow the same steps in development in the womb. There are a few evolutionary things that certain races have picked up, such as more melanin to protect us from UV, but what produces melanin is melanocytes and we all have those. So if you look at our anatomy and physiology, we are all very very similar.
Sks Posted July 19, 2008 Posted July 19, 2008 You say we are different from not only appearance but also functionally different. Well what about dogs? Some dogs are made to run faster, and some are more aggressive. Are they both dogs then? Yes. Just because one is genetically more aggressive, it still doesn't change the fact that its a dog. The reason why some people run faster is because of the type of muscle fibers they have. Their muscles differ in the way they use their energy ATP. So their muscles metabolize energy in different ways. But the basic mechanics of how muscles work in humans is the same. The anatomy is the essentially the same. The groups of muscles and their positions are the same. Same is true about skin color. Everyone's skin color is controlled by melanocytes. Everyone has them. The only difference is that black people make a different form of melanin...asians mnake a different form also. We all make some form of melanin and the melanin is made by melanocytes. We all reproduce the same way, and we all follow the same steps in development in the womb. There are a few evolutionary things that certain races have picked up, such as more melanin to protect us from UV, but what produces melanin is melanocytes and we all have those. So if you look at our anatomy and physiology, we are all very very similar. Dogs and Wolves follow the same "steps" but are hugely different.
woods321 Posted July 19, 2008 Posted July 19, 2008 Ok as this analogy... Lets talk about dogs. Some breeds of dogs are faster. Some are more intelligent. Yes they are all dogs. So, should we mix up all the breeds so there is only one type of dog that is average at everything? You would be silly to say all German Shepherds should mate with cocker spaniels. And they are both equal, and there would be no difference. Should people love cocker spaniels? Yes of course. Do we have to be politically correct and say they are the EXACT same as German Shepherds?
oceangrl Posted July 19, 2008 Posted July 19, 2008 I was using the dog analogy because dunnowhat said--you don't see monkeys breed with apes and dogs breeding with cats. I was saying that you cant compare interracial breeding with breeding between dogs and cats because they are different species. Interracial breeding would be more similar to crossing a German Sheperd with a cocker spaniel than crossing a dog with a cat. No, not all cocker spaniels should mate with German Sheperds. Could it happen and would some people prefer the mixed breed? Sure, its all about preference. People who dont like interracial relationships--thats fine thats their preference. But to say that its not "normal" to desire someone else outside your race would be like saying something like....a certain breed of dog shouldn't have the desire to mate with another breed because its not normal. Are all breeds exactly the same? Of course not. But they are all lumped into the category as dogs because they have SAME distinguishing features that classify them as dogs and not cats. So using the analogy of a dog breeding with a cat shouldn't be used to compare to interracial breeding.
DunnoWhat Posted July 19, 2008 Posted July 19, 2008 You say we are different from not only appearance but also functionally different. Well what about dogs? Some dogs are made to run faster, and some are more aggressive. Are they both dogs then? Yes. Just because one is genetically more aggressive, it still doesn't change the fact that its a dog. The reason why some people run faster is because of the type of muscle fibers they have. Their muscles differ in the way they use their energy ATP. So their muscles metabolize energy in different ways. But the basic mechanics of how muscles work in humans is the same. The anatomy is the essentially the same. The groups of muscles and their positions are the same. Same is true about skin color. Everyone's skin color is controlled by melanocytes. Everyone has them. The only difference is that black people make a different form of melanin...asians mnake a different form also. We all make some form of melanin and the melanin is made by melanocytes. We all reproduce the same way, and we all follow the same steps in development in the womb. There are a few evolutionary things that certain races have picked up, such as more melanin to protect us from UV, but what produces melanin is melanocytes and we all have those. So if you look at our anatomy and physiology, we are all very very similar. All animals have muscles, all animals have red blood, all have bones and I'm sure they all have 1 head too but that doesn't mean they are the same. This PC nonsense is worst then believing in fairytales.
KinAZ Posted July 19, 2008 Posted July 19, 2008 All animals have muscles, all animals have red blood, all have bones and I'm sure they all have 1 head too but that doesn't mean they are the same. This PC nonsense is worst then believing in fairytales. Once again, you guys are lacking fact in this attempt. Among Natives, there are WIDE variations in height, size, hair, color, and so forth. A DUMB comparison because you don't see the same things as you would in BREEDS OF DOGS! Among "Caucasians" (not necessarily "whites") there are WIDE variations as well. You see this too among Africans and Asians. The amount of difference is in NO WAY comparable to one breed of dog v. another. Unless you're still going by a text book that was published in the 1940s, you shouldn't even dare make such a comparison. ALSO, when you want to go according to racial groupings, you have Caucasoid, Negroid, and Mongoloid, first and foremost. LOL, and within your race Middle Easterners and Indians are included. Not a different dog, same dog.
KinAZ Posted July 19, 2008 Posted July 19, 2008 Also... since I'm here... compare Indians (from India) to other Caucasians, as well as Africans. If you do so honestly, you will note that the variation between the groups is no greater than the variation that is actually within the groups. Furthermore, the racist history aside, these racial groups are supposedly formed along cultural lines and not genetic ones! In other words, which cultures science can show had strong interaction with one another throughout time, based on archaeological findings. Not the color of skin...
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