Peter_pan Posted July 15, 2008 Posted July 15, 2008 pretty much dreamt about her and it felt so real, i woke up and felt really ****. its been end of jan that we were not together and beginning of feb that she finally announced she was with this new guy. and to my knowledge she isn't with him. but i dont know for %100 sure. either way i am upset and feeling down all the time. time for anti-depressants?
roghornio Posted July 15, 2008 Posted July 15, 2008 NO! Don't... the side effects are not worth it. The AD’s take a few weeks to kick in . Plus you can’t drink etc on them. It really is a last resort. You need to look at alternatives... find something to consume your mind. I know it’s tough for you and it’s your first break up – it’s going to take time , and without wanting to scare you I think itll take longer than 4 or 5months you’ve been through. My first girlfriend took me around a year to get over… you DO get over it… but you need to help yourself through it. Spend time with friends and family, talk about it with people you know till you get bored of talking about – get on with your life… Try online dating I dunno – some female company will do you a world of good!! Youve got my email... email me if you want to talk about it - but really this AD thing should be a last resort - i know people who take them and they are like shells of their former selves.
bill1234 Posted July 15, 2008 Posted July 15, 2008 There's a big sign at my gym: "ENDORPHINS ARE CHEAPER THAN PROZAC". Wise words. I get two or three hours feeling 'normal' again, every time I go for a run. And I'm getting really fit too and have lost a lot of weight. No artificial chemicals for me!
louise08 Posted July 15, 2008 Posted July 15, 2008 NO! Don't... the side effects are not worth it. The AD’s take a few weeks to kick in . Plus you can’t drink etc on them. It really is a last resort. You need to look at alternatives... find something to consume your mind. I know it’s tough for you and it’s your first break up – it’s going to take time , and without wanting to scare you I think itll take longer than 4 or 5months you’ve been through. My first girlfriend took me around a year to get over… you DO get over it… but you need to help yourself through it. Spend time with friends and family, talk about it with people you know till you get bored of talking about – get on with your life… Try online dating I dunno – some female company will do you a world of good!! Youve got my email... email me if you want to talk about it - but really this AD thing should be a last resort - i know people who take them and they are like shells of their former selves. What are the side effects? apart from no drinking? Thanks
roghornio Posted July 15, 2008 Posted July 15, 2008 Dry mouth Urinary retention Blurred vision Constipation Sedation (can interfere with driving or operating machinery) Sleep disruption Weight gain Headache Nausea Gastrointestinal disturbance/diarrhea Abdominal pain Inability to achieve an erection Inability to achieve an orgasm (men and women) Loss of libido Agitation Anxiety
miss_28 Posted July 15, 2008 Posted July 15, 2008 I'm on ADs for clinical depression and generalized anxiety... and there are lots of side effects. Your sleeping patterns change, (in my case, I'm constantly tired)... you eat more, you get to a really numb stage before they kick in, if you forget to take it one day (depending on the dosage) you feel really really sick (i.e., cold sweats, vivid nightmares, dizziness, the shakes, all together) and going off them is a bitch... I know, i've been trying to for 2 years now but i can't... on the plus side, they helped me get out of bed in the morning, stop vomiting and they helped tremendously with panic attacks... but they are highly addictive (i.e. you have a hard time functioning when you try to get off - even with a doctor supervising). The gym helps, but I can't go everyday, and i really need to push myself to work out to the point where endorphins are flowing... and with ADs, they are slowly released into your bloodstream all day long... I (unlike my friend who is also on them) have no libido problems... actually, I have the opposite problem (depression kills my mood)... but my friend who's on ADs as well is too tired to have a sex drive... so...... I will be trying to go off them again hopefully by Christmas... if i could go back in time, i wouldn't go on them in the first place...
foxh1234 Posted July 15, 2008 Posted July 15, 2008 pretty much dreamt about her and it felt so real, i woke up and felt really ****. its been end of jan that we were not together and beginning of feb that she finally announced she was with this new guy. and to my knowledge she isn't with him. but i dont know for %100 sure. either way i am upset and feeling down all the time. time for anti-depressants? Don't do it PP, I have had friends on AD's and it was real trouble. Get busy, get fit, read, write, watch movies, do anything to keep your mind off of it. PM me anytime you feel down and we can chat. Hang in there.
Author Peter_pan Posted July 15, 2008 Author Posted July 15, 2008 ok i'll try and stay clear for now. I told my mum that i think i should get some and she did say that if i wanted to talk to my doctor about them then i could. man i felt so so so **** in the morning. i just felt exhausted and drained and lifeless. today i have been to the gym. going out for a social pint in 10 mins. i keep remembering all the fun happy time we had together and it saddens me to know its over and gone. i am the past.
sunshinegirl Posted July 15, 2008 Posted July 15, 2008 Just to counter the unanimous "don't to it" views so far, I have been on AD's twice in my life, each time only for a few months. I had no discernable side effects and in each case, taking AD's helped me get over the desperate trough I was in. And I had no trouble coming off of them. So yes, while there are a number of POSSIBLE side effects, not everyone gets them, or gets all of them, or gets them to the same degree of severity. I would consult with your doctor or counselor. And if you're not in counseling, you might try that as a first step.
serendip Posted July 15, 2008 Posted July 15, 2008 pretty much dreamt about her and it felt so real, i woke up and felt really ****. its been end of jan that we were not together and beginning of feb that she finally announced she was with this new guy. and to my knowledge she isn't with him. but i dont know for %100 sure. either way i am upset and feeling down all the time. time for anti-depressants? Try natural remedies 5-HTP and John worts do research on them first on the net....but it works and not much side effects
Author Peter_pan Posted July 15, 2008 Author Posted July 15, 2008 cheers for that info guys. will look into it, had some counseling didn't help really, because at the end of the day no matter what anyone says it wont really change the feeling inside of me in my head. i need drugs to do that
tranceguy Posted July 16, 2008 Posted July 16, 2008 I'm on wellbutrin and Zoloft, but I just suck at being happy. However, you can drink on them. I'm a 3 times a week drinker, bars etc, and the only side effect I think I have from either of them is the orgasm department, BUT, I can acheive one...Just takes me 2 hours, and the women I met love that. I just dont tell them about the drugs, I just say I have endurance.
Author Peter_pan Posted July 16, 2008 Author Posted July 16, 2008 well that could be looked at as some form of advantage
D-Lish Posted July 16, 2008 Posted July 16, 2008 ok i'll try and stay clear for now. I told my mum that i think i should get some and she did say that if i wanted to talk to my doctor about them then i could. man i felt so so so **** in the morning. i just felt exhausted and drained and lifeless. today i have been to the gym. going out for a social pint in 10 mins. i keep remembering all the fun happy time we had together and it saddens me to know its over and gone. i am the past. That is the option you should be exploring. Talk to your doctor about what is going on. No one on this forum is able to discern whether you are clinically depressed, situationally depressed or just plain sad. YOU and YOUR doc are the best ones to make that sort of decision. There are side effects, of course, there are benefits as well. Different chemicals have different reactions in people. I had bad side effects on one anti-depressant and zero side effects with a different one. What works for one person may not work the same for another. My best friend and I were on the same AD for a while and she gained 30 lbs and lost energy, while I lost weight and my energy increased. I suspect your depressive state is situational based. Not to minimize what you're feeling... because the symptoms often manifest in the same manner. Taking AD's won't take the pain of the break up away, that's not how it works unfortunately. I think it's in your best interest to deal head on with how you are feeling, while at the same time maintaining a healthy body and keeping yourself busy. Exercise does help, so does socializing with friends and keeping up your daily routines. But talk to your doctor about how you are feeling. A trained professional is the only person who should be making recommendations about AD's vs no AD's. It can't hurt to have that discussion. That doesn't mean you have to go on them, but you can make an informed choice.
LikeCharlotte Posted July 16, 2008 Posted July 16, 2008 That is the option you should be exploring. Talk to your doctor about what is going on. No one on this forum is able to discern whether you are clinically depressed, situationally depressed or just plain sad. YOU and YOUR doc are the best ones to make that sort of decision ...talk to your doctor about how you are feeling. A trained professional is the only person who should be making recommendations about AD's vs no AD's. It can't hurt to have that discussion. That doesn't mean you have to go on them, but you can make an informed choice.I agree with D-Lish. AD's have been helpful to very many people. Make an informed decision and if you decide to go on them insist the you see your doctor regularly to gauge your progress and reactions. I've been on AD's for short periods and it has helped. I have also gone a natural route. One wasn't better than the other but I'd say that each was right for the circumstance. Good Luck weighing your options.
Author Peter_pan Posted July 16, 2008 Author Posted July 16, 2008 thanks D-Lish n likecharlotte i shall do just that. i will let you know what action i take. i just dont like the sound of side effects i work out alot so wouldn't want to ruin my body (not that a couple of pounds that i could turn into muscle wouldn't go a miss) isnt being sad the same as being depressed?
D-Lish Posted July 16, 2008 Posted July 16, 2008 thanks D-Lish n likecharlotte i shall do just that. i will let you know what action i take. i just dont like the sound of side effects i work out alot so wouldn't want to ruin my body (not that a couple of pounds that i could turn into muscle wouldn't go a miss) isnt being sad the same as being depressed? "Clinical" Depression is a chemical imbalance of the brain and is often more extensive and prolonged than a period of sadness or depression. Clinical depression can be so severe that people can't get out of bed or function in life... but it is more chronic and extensive than sadness (same short term symptoms). What you're feeling IS depression- I have no doubt about that. It's a loss, it's extreme grief. I think what you and your doc might look at is your capability of healing from this loss. If you are not clinically depressed, you should be able to experience the normal stages of grief and heal progressively. Don't think of AD's as magic pills that erase the feelings of loss. It's really more of a tool to help someone feel stable enough to deal with their problems. Sometimes people with clinical depression stop functioning- so an AD would help to balance chemicals in the brain so a severely depressed individual could attain a level of stability that enables them to focus on dealing with life. If sadness lasts for a prolonged period of time (like chronically for months on end), I'd be worried about it. People with clinical depression aren't necessarily inspired or affected by crisis- they live in an abyss.... and they might snap in and out of it their entire lives. Break ups are a loss- and the feelings of pain associated with such a loss WILL manifest in the same way as depression... The difference is in one's ability to push through it. Try to see it as "sadness" having normal stages of grieving, while depression has no end in sight. So- the sadness you currently feel over the break up- imagine just always feeling that way without much respite, for your life. That is what Clinical Depression looks like. Hard to explain- hope it made sense. You are in a depressive abyss right now- I think you have the tools to climb out of that though. The thing I would be worried about most is if you are having thoughts of harming yourself. If you ever need further support, don't hesitate to PM me. In the meantime- keep talking it out hun... That is the most therapeutic thing you can do for yourself at the moment.
justaman99 Posted July 16, 2008 Posted July 16, 2008 Anti-depressants are just paint on a black canvas. They cover the root of the problem by making you feel indifferent. They, at least in my experience, caused me to be numb. I didn't feel good or bad, I didn't feel anything. Sure I could function but my ability to love and be caring was affected as well as my feelings of pain. I became neutral. I will never try them again. Be careful if you go this route. -Just
Author Peter_pan Posted July 16, 2008 Author Posted July 16, 2008 cheers justaman, dont worry i will think very very carefully. ive seen what they did to my ex's gf when he broke up with his ex. his bro found him at home lying unconscious in a pool of his own sick. d-lish, thanks for that i do understand it a bit better. will re read it. thanks for offering for me to pm you, i shall do i dont have thoughts of harming myself anymore. i was close to jumping off a bridge about 2 months ago but didnt . i was drunk, really drunk. i called my parents and told them i didnt deserve anything and i'd let everyone down. but someone threw me in a taxi before i went wondering
critter909 Posted July 16, 2008 Posted July 16, 2008 I read quite a bit on the internet about ADs and depression. I have been taking SAMe and a B vitamin supplement every day for the last week and a half and it seems to be helping me. I know time has also gone on (1 1/2 months since break-up) but I feel decidedly better and I think I have to give at least some credit to the supplements. According to what I read the SAMe and B vitamins are shown in studies to work as well as conventional ADs for people with mild depression. I have not had any discernable side effects. This is the only medication I have ever taken so I am not a regular pill popper but sometimes I think we need a hand and you should not be embarrased. I don't think it would be a bad idea for you to take your mom up on her suggestion and talk to a doctor.
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