bones1 Posted July 9, 2008 Posted July 9, 2008 It is obvious to me, as I am a man. How do women claim to understand how men think? HE CUT THE DATE SHORT THEN ASKED TO GO TO HER HOME! HELLO! That means he wants sex! Let me explain how it is for men. Lets say you are an attractive younger man. First, why an older woman... Older women generally have lives. Kids. Family. Jobs. A home etc. Many older women KNOW and WANT just sex in their rare free time. They don't have time to play younger woman games, are not as picky, etc. Trust me. Very often an older woman will just invite a man from the internet to come to her house. Some want "one date" to get to know and see you etc. A younger attractive child free woman is much harder to find on the net. And if you do find one, she gets 300 emails a day. So, that is much harder to obtain. A confident and mature older woman knows this is mostly about sex. Sometimes, these older women are confused, and are thinking it is an old fashioned date. Well guess what. He found you on the net. He did not meet you out and ask you out naturally. So, he can be crude, not plan, not care, and just aim for sex because there are hundreds of other older women that will. He doesn't care enough to extend the date to drinks to hope you will have sex with him. It isn't worth it. So he meets you, and simply asks to come to your house. That doesn't sound like the naive, inexperienced, shy man you are making him out to be. Lizzie is mature and confident enough to understand what it is usually about.
Jilly Bean Posted July 9, 2008 Posted July 9, 2008 Yea, I thought that as well, Jilly. He seemed to knee-jerk pretty hard, and I think once he calms down and sees the other side, he will reach out. But I'd still blow him off. lol. You remind me a lot of one of my older sisters, Alpha. She too, generates a lot of younger guy attention and has to throw away the bad ones from the good. And not all of these guys are all over her to have sex with her. Well, no more than any other guy, really - lol. She is strong, and smart, and sexy and confident and I think a lot of guys are turned on by her total package. Sounds like this guy was with you, but ultimately he couldn't keep up. He told you he was intimidated, so it makes sense that he caved under the pressure - lol.
Author Alpha Female Posted July 9, 2008 Author Posted July 9, 2008 But I'd still blow him off. lol. You remind me a lot of one of my older sisters, Alpha. She too, generates a lot of younger guy attention and has to throw away the bad ones from the good. And not all of these guys are all over her to have sex with her. Well, no more than any other guy, really - lol. She is strong, and smart, and sexy and confident and I think a lot of guys are turned on by her total package. Sounds like this guy was with you, but ultimately he couldn't keep up. He told you he was intimidated, so it makes sense that he caved under the pressure - lol. Thanks for that! I do plan on blowing him off, should he resurface. Issues, issues and more issues! I'm still shocked he told me how he was "broken inside." Who does that?
bones1 Posted July 9, 2008 Posted July 9, 2008 LOL I feel a large part of this story is missing, as someone is trying to save face on an internet message board. Ok, he is obviously psychotic with issues and broken. That is the only acceptable reasoning ! I mean a younger man trying to have just sex with an older woman! Impossible! He MUST have had the same exact intentions as you, even though you are a pre menopausal female with no sex drive and 12 years older. If he didn't then he is broken, psychotic, with tons of issues!
CaliGuy Posted July 9, 2008 Posted July 9, 2008 Yes, you're totally right. That's what was disturbing mostly. I could see all the signs of his sweetness and kindness. Too bad it is all masked in the "brokenness". Then again, it's also sad to me when I meet people who had a lot of potential in their lives, and can't break their chains. Same problem with this last woman I was going out with. Totally insecure, cries at the drop of a hat, smokes (I hate that!) and has all kinds of family issues. I can see the small bits of good in her, but that's totally outweighed by all the negative qualities she has. I'm not the kind to give up easily but I also value myself enough that I know pursuing a relationship with someone like that will end up causing way more problems that it's worth. There are better women out there for me and I am patient enough and have enough confidence that I am sure she'll come along. Until then, I'm going to continue to date and have fun!
CaliGuy Posted July 9, 2008 Posted July 9, 2008 P.S. Despite popular beliefs, my attraction to him wasn't for his virility. Perimenopause has killed my sex drive actually. I think younger men have all the spunk, but totally lack the technique of an older man. So does that mean I am tops on the list? Because I have both those qualities in abundance
bones1 Posted July 9, 2008 Posted July 9, 2008 Cali, you wouldn't be tops on the list unless you have no sex drive either, which is what she just stated. He planned the date early so that he would not waste an entire evening if he was not going to get laid. So he quickly went home to meet other women .
CaliGuy Posted July 9, 2008 Posted July 9, 2008 Cali, you wouldn't be tops on the list unless you have no sex drive either, which is what she just stated. He planned the date early so that he would not waste an entire evening if he was not going to get laid. So he quickly went home to meet other women . All, well... a) I have a strong sex drive b) I am patient. So I don't try and "score" with women I am remotely interested in. I usually try and learn something about them. Attraction to me is MUCH more than the sum of her looks.
Lizzie60 Posted July 9, 2008 Posted July 9, 2008 It is obvious to me, as I am a man. How do women claim to understand how men think? How can you pretend to speak for ALL men... how can you pretend to know how ALL men think? HE CUT THE DATE SHORT THEN ASKED TO GO TO HER HOME! HELLO! That means he wants sex! How do you know that for sure.. bc you're a man... First, why an older woman... why not... you are very narrow-minded if you think that younger men do not genuinely love older women... it might not be YOUR thing.. but it's the 'thing' of more and more younger men out there.. Older women have a lot more to offer, life experience, they know what they want, more substance... etc... Older women generally have lives. Kids. Family. Jobs. A home etc. Yes but usually their kids are out of the home.. they do have a home.. they are emotionally and financially secure.. They don't need a man,full time, to make them happy... they are independant. Many older women KNOW and WANT just sex in their rare free time. Huh? how do you know how much time they have... funny how you can assume things from 'younger men' AND 'older women' And if you do find one, she gets 300 emails a day. So, that is much harder to obtain. Sometimes, these older women are confused, and are thinking it is an old fashioned date. :lmao: He doesn't care enough to extend the date to drinks to hope you will have sex with him. It isn't worth it. Methink this guy doesn't have too much experience with women, old AND young.. He probably would have done the same thing with a young hot chick.. Lizzie is mature and confident enough to understand what it is usually about. Lizzie has lots of experience with younger men.. and I mean lots.. Bones.. older women might NOT be your cup of tea.. but trust me it is for a lot of younger men out there... Maybe you should try that once.. you might be surprisingly pleased.
Lizzie60 Posted July 9, 2008 Posted July 9, 2008 LOL I feel a large part of this story is missing, as someone is trying to save face on an internet message board. Ok, he is obviously psychotic with issues and broken. That is the only acceptable reasoning ! I mean a younger man trying to have just sex with an older woman! Impossible! He MUST have had the same exact intentions as you, even though you are a pre menopausal female with no sex drive and 12 years older. If he didn't then he is broken, psychotic, with tons of issues! Wow Bones.. you need to go out more..
bones1 Posted July 9, 2008 Posted July 9, 2008 Lizzie, I was being sarcastic in my last post. Of course younger men contact older women on the internet for sex. My point is that older women (many, not all) are easier to bed, if you are a young attractive man. You yourself on many threads claim to be sleeping with many younger men. Obviously those are based on sex, not on building a life together. You are proud of it, and in my opinion there is nothing at all wrong with it. Some older women (for whatever reason), do not like to face the fact that the younger man just wants sex, not a long term relationship. So they make all kinds of excuses for why the younger man didn't take them out on better dates, treat them better, etc. Age is the number 1 factor for men when trying to find a wife, or SO. Younger is what they want. For sex, men go with all ages. Opening your legs for men does not mean they love you. Or want to marry you. Or you are their dream. Millions of men around the world PAY, yes PAY prostitutes for sex. Do they want to marry them? Do they love them No, it is just sex. The man's actions on this date exhibit clearly what he was doing. Have an early get together, get it over with quickly, ask to go to her home, if not then go home and still have time to meet another. Thats what happened.
Author Alpha Female Posted July 9, 2008 Author Posted July 9, 2008 Same problem with this last woman I was going out with. Totally insecure, cries at the drop of a hat, smokes (I hate that!) and has all kinds of family issues. I can see the small bits of good in her, but that's totally outweighed by all the negative qualities she has. I'm not the kind to give up easily but I also value myself enough that I know pursuing a relationship with someone like that will end up causing way more problems that it's worth. There are better women out there for me and I am patient enough and have enough confidence that I am sure she'll come along. Until then, I'm going to continue to date and have fun! Exactly. Although I hate to give up on him as he had so many other lovely qualities, he's still a total mess. I think you were right to say goodbye to this woman. Maybe we should fix them both up! ha ha
Author Alpha Female Posted July 9, 2008 Author Posted July 9, 2008 So does that mean I am tops on the list? Because I have both those qualities in abundance That you would be for sure! And I meant that. Younger men may be virile, but they really lack skills. I'd take an older guy as a lover any day over someone in their 20's or early 30's.
Author Alpha Female Posted July 9, 2008 Author Posted July 9, 2008 All, well... a) I have a strong sex drive b) I am patient. So I don't try and "score" with women I am remotely interested in. I usually try and learn something about them. Attraction to me is MUCH more than the sum of her looks. Yes - you are pretty much the type I normally date.
bones1 Posted July 9, 2008 Posted July 9, 2008 And when I was younger, I did date older women... It was easy to distinguish between the 2 different attitudes.. Some very beautiful older women were mature, sexy, smart, stable, and confident. They knew what they wanted, and had no issues about having a relationship based on sex, friendship, etc. Others were insecure, and were looking at a potential date as if you want to marry them. They would be seeking men 15 to 20 years younger, but then also making it clear they did not want just sex. In my opinion, they were pretty far out of reality. They were telling me I don't need to have kids, older women are smarter, better, etc etc. Actually seemed selfish to me.
JP77 Posted July 9, 2008 Posted July 9, 2008 Maybe you should try that once.. you might be surprisingly pleased. Old women are loose and you just can't get satisfaction from loose vagina. BJ's might be a problem with false teeth. Older women are nice, but then there's older and the rest are just prehistoric
refurb Posted July 9, 2008 Posted July 9, 2008 Also, it's not solely his task to entertain you, in that interesting conversation needs to be fueled by both people. Wow, I'm glad someone said it. Nothing worse than a chick who sits there and expects to be entertained. It's like babysitting a small child. RF
Author Alpha Female Posted July 9, 2008 Author Posted July 9, 2008 Wow, I'm glad someone said it. Nothing worse than a chick who sits there and expects to be entertained. It's like babysitting a small child. RF Trial seems to like to manifest her own opinion of the date. The conversation wasn't too terrific because he was so nervous! Believe me, if it wasn't for me asking questions and keeping things going, there would have been a lot of dead air. So, it was very much like babysitting for me. Nothing worse than a young man sitting there expecting to be entertained.
JP77 Posted July 9, 2008 Posted July 9, 2008 What is an alpha female, is it a female with nuts and a flatchest? Who beats her chest as if she was Gorilla during mating season?
bones1 Posted July 9, 2008 Posted July 9, 2008 LOL. He just wanted sex... He didn't care about your conversation. He was probably nervous about others wondering why he is out with someone much older. So he was soo nervous because why? He was just awe struck, and so into you that he didn't know what to say? I guess at that point he just threw out "Ok, lets go to your place now", after ending the public date at 7. Then he went home to block you on his computer. Sounds like he didn't think you were the best date either.
TudorII Posted July 10, 2008 Posted July 10, 2008 Old women are loose and you just can't get satisfaction from loose vagina. BJ's might be a problem with false teeth. Older women are nice, but then there's older and the rest are just prehistoric No he didn't! You obviously have not been used as boy toy by a mature woman that not only knows what she wants but knows how to take it in a way that leaves you not only appreciating an older woman but craving them. Experience comes with age and trust me a little experience goes a long way in the sack! And false teeth is a bonus fyi...they can take them out and gum your cock as well as suck it. No teeth is a beautiful thing! Its ok though...go back and spank it to your barely 18 mags and leave the finely aged women of the world to the men that know how to appreciate them. Oh and be nice to them even if you dont' want to have sex with them.
Lizzie60 Posted July 10, 2008 Posted July 10, 2008 And when I was younger, I did date older women... It was easy to distinguish between the 2 different attitudes.. Some very beautiful older women were mature, sexy, smart, stable, and confident. They knew what they wanted, and had no issues about having a relationship based on sex, friendship, etc. Others were insecure, and were looking at a potential date as if you want to marry them. They would be seeking men 15 to 20 years younger, but then also making it clear they did not want just sex. In my opinion, they were pretty far out of reality. They were telling me I don't need to have kids, older women are smarter, better, etc etc. Actually seemed selfish to me. When I started dating my last ex.. I had absolutely no expectations.. I had been 'divorced' for a year.. and I was back on the dating scene... My first encounter with a much younger man was about 8 months after my separation... I was stunned.. I never ever thought a younger guy would be interested in me.. At that 'single dinner' he was the youngest.. 27, amazingly beautiful, nice body.. all the women were after him... I didn't even noticed that he had an eye on me.. at the end of the evening.. I was getting ready to leave.. he came to my table and asked me if I'd like to go for dinner sometimes.. I almost fell off my chair.. I was 45 then. But gosh was I ever flattered... I told him I would not call him since I was old enough to be his mother. but I said...if YOU want to call me.. then yes, I am not saying no. He called me the next morning.. I saw him in the afternoon.. and everyday for a whole month.. It was crazy... we were going out for walks.. I was embarrassed... not him.. he wanted to show me off...then one day.. nothing.. he didn't call back.. I heard he got married the next year, he met a girl while playing baseball (she was playing too)... I never saw or heard from him after that. But gosh did it felt good.. my first encounter with a much younger guy. Then a few months later, I went on a date with my second ex.. he was 12 years younger.. we moved together and he asked me to marry him on my 50th birthday. I left him a few months before... So.. for you to say that it's far from reality is wrong.. there is a lot more couples than you think that move together or have a serious relationship. After my second ex.. I have mainly dated younger men.. and, except on rare occasions (once or twice) .. they've ALWAYS made the first move...
Author Alpha Female Posted July 10, 2008 Author Posted July 10, 2008 go back and spank it to your barely 18 mags and leave the finely aged women of the world to the men that know how to appreciate them. Oh and be nice to them even if you dont' want to have sex with them. LMAO. Fabulous, Tudor. Oh, Tudor? I went out tonight, and got home and logged online. Guess who logged in about 30 seconds later? Yep - my 30 year old date. I so knew he would get over his tantrum. ha ha. Can't wait to see when he mans up and initiates conversation.
Lizzie60 Posted July 10, 2008 Posted July 10, 2008 LMAO. Fabulous, Tudor. Oh, Tudor? I went out tonight, and got home and logged online. Guess who logged in about 30 seconds later? Yep - my 30 year old date. I so knew he would get over his tantrum. ha ha. Can't wait to see when he mans up and initiates conversation. Have you exchanged messages tonite?
Citizen Erased Posted July 10, 2008 Posted July 10, 2008 No he didn't! You obviously have not been used as boy toy by a mature woman that not only knows what she wants but knows how to take it in a way that leaves you not only appreciating an older woman but craving them. Experience comes with age and trust me a little experience goes a long way in the sack! And false teeth is a bonus fyi...they can take them out and gum your cock as well as suck it. No teeth is a beautiful thing! Its ok though...go back and spank it to your barely 18 mags and leave the finely aged women of the world to the men that know how to appreciate them. Oh and be nice to them even if you dont' want to have sex with them. The imagery in those 3 little words is hilarious.
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