Tomcat33 Posted June 23, 2008 Posted June 23, 2008 I saw the movie Sex and The City. I know I know some will think why did you see that blahhh blaaah, but I LOVED IT! Went to see it with 5 girlfriends and it was spectacular and some of the moments in that movie were so vivid an so well depicted that I think anyone can relate even though some of the scenes don't relate directly there is something for everyone in that movie to pull at their heart strings. There is one part in particular that really touched me about Carrie and it was very similar to what I went through after my breakup and to how my friends behaved etc. Anyway there is one part in the movie with Miranda's relationship and she is at the therapist's and some of the things discussed there are so bang on to what we all have discussed here, and it just reminded me of our many debates here. Sorry I am being so vague don't want to give too much away since if any of you want to see it I don't want to spoil it. if you've seen it and can relate, "holla"! (how do you like my shout out?)
Lizzie60 Posted June 23, 2008 Posted June 23, 2008 I might go tomorrow.. I can't wait.. my friend went with one of her friend.. and they loved it. She said Samantha.. is 'me'... everytime she was on screen, she would think about me...hahaha I never watched the show.. but I want to see my 'twin'.. hahaha
Author Tomcat33 Posted June 23, 2008 Author Posted June 23, 2008 I might go tomorrow.. I can't wait.. my friend went with one of her friend.. and they loved it. She said Samantha.. is 'me'... everytime she was on screen, she would think about me...hahaha I never watched the show.. but I want to see my 'twin'.. hahaha ooooh I can't wait, yes Samantha IS you!! She is just so over the top but so cool at the same time, she is so ultra feminine though and she does woman's lib so well. I mean people usually picture someone like her who "acts" like a guy to be like a guy but what I love about her is that she can tell you to "f-off" and sound so feminine doing so that she could have the vocab of a trucker and never end up sounding like one. Too bad she ended up with Smith though he is gross, I liked Richard for her he was totally her speed. And Big looks big and yummy as always! The show was the best it was so well written and super entertaining you have to rent it.
Mino Posted June 23, 2008 Posted June 23, 2008 Hi TC. The movie was great... I tell you though, when Carrie was lying in her bed for days, I just got a heartach... had to hold back my tears in the theater.... my friends reacted the same way... trying to lure me out of bed... still makes me choke up just thinking about it now... Thank God for our friends:love:
Mino Posted June 23, 2008 Posted June 23, 2008 I might go tomorrow.. I can't wait.. my friend went with one of her friend.. and they loved it. She said Samantha.. is 'me'... everytime she was on screen, she would think about me...hahaha I never watched the show.. but I want to see my 'twin'.. hahaha You know Lizzie, I thought the same thing!! Sam is you:)
Author Tomcat33 Posted June 23, 2008 Author Posted June 23, 2008 Hi TC. The movie was great... I tell you though, when Carrie was lying in her bed for days, I just got a heartach... had to hold back my tears in the theater.... my friends reacted the same way... trying to lure me out of bed... still makes me choke up just thinking about it now... Thank God for our friends:love: That's what I'm taliking about Mino that is EXACTLY how I felt, god it was so real that scene wasn't it? I did cry, what can I say it brought back a lot of emotions that I was done with but of cours still carry inside. Those scenes were so well done. Glad you saw it and liked it I found myself nodding in agreement a lot with some of the dialogue. yes thank god for friends! This movie celebrates friendship like no other. That's why I LOVED this show and I am so sad it is over.
OpenBook Posted June 23, 2008 Posted June 23, 2008 I am ashamed to admit that I haven't seen the movie yet.:sick: I have seen every episode of all six seasons... except for the very last episode. I refuse to watch it, because that would mean I would have to acknowledge it's over. I think that's why I don't want to see the movie. My GF's (who've all seen the movie) have to be careful not to give the plot away to me, and they're getting tired of it!!
Author Tomcat33 Posted June 23, 2008 Author Posted June 23, 2008 I am ashamed to admit that I haven't seen the movie yet.:sick: I have seen every episode of all six seasons... except for the very last episode. I refuse to watch it, because that would mean I would have to acknowledge it's over. I think that's why I don't want to see the movie. My GF's (who've all seen the movie) have to be careful not to give the plot away to me, and they're getting tired of it!! Go see it babe, if I thought you not seeing would bring the show back I would support you 100% but since there ain't nothin' we can do, bite the bullet and accept the end has come and go see it!
InLimbo2 Posted June 23, 2008 Posted June 23, 2008 Saw it - twice. First time with my 19yo daughter and her boyfriend on opening day - and again a week or two later with a girlfriend while we waited for our men to come back from a long weekend motorcycle ride. I cried - plenty in that movie. And yes - can seriously relate to a bunch of parts of it. HOLLA! I saw the movie Sex and The City. I know I know some will think why did you see that blahhh blaaah, but I LOVED IT! Went to see it with 5 girlfriends and it was spectacular and some of the moments in that movie were so vivid an so well depicted that I think anyone can relate even though some of the scenes don't relate directly there is something for everyone in that movie to pull at their heart strings. There is one part in particular that really touched me about Carrie and it was very similar to what I went through after my breakup and to how my friends behaved etc. Anyway there is one part in the movie with Miranda's relationship and she is at the therapist's and some of the things discussed there are so bang on to what we all have discussed here, and it just reminded me of our many debates here. Sorry I am being so vague don't want to give too much away since if any of you want to see it I don't want to spoil it. if you've seen it and can relate, "holla"! (how do you like my shout out?)
Author Tomcat33 Posted June 23, 2008 Author Posted June 23, 2008 Saw it - twice. First time with my 19yo daughter and her boyfriend on opening day - and again a week or two later with a girlfriend while we waited for our men to come back from a long weekend motorcycle ride. I cried - plenty in that movie. And yes - can seriously relate to a bunch of parts of it. I would totally see it again I loved it that much. HOLLA!
Owl Posted June 23, 2008 Posted June 23, 2008 I've not seen it, nor will I. It sounds like its the typical Hollywood emotional run that's so common nowadays. Does it show the affair as a wonderful, glamorous thing for the first part...then they break up, pine and die emotionally missing each other...and then somehow the drama is resolved? Is it all about the OMG uber "IN LOVE!!!" feelings that Hollywood is convincing us that we're emotionally stunted if we don't feel that way every single moment about the person we're with? Is there any reflection at all of a "mature love" in a long term relationship? Its this kind of drivel that I'm talking about when I mention how Hollywood and romance novels set impossibly high expectations among their fans. Fantasies are GREAT when kept into perspective...unfortunately, when people begin to believe that their life is lacking something when it doesn't meet up with those fantastical expectations people really go through a learning experience. Sorry...but just had to interject a dose of reality in here. I didn't go watch the last Indiana Jones movie and come out thinking that my life should be like that...unfortunately, these kinds of emotional "love" movies set exactly that kind of expectation in too many people.
Lizzie60 Posted June 23, 2008 Posted June 23, 2008 I would totally see it again I loved it that much. OMG.. I think I'll go tonite..
nadiaj2727 Posted June 23, 2008 Posted June 23, 2008 I've not seen it, nor will I. It sounds like its the typical Hollywood emotional run that's so common nowadays. Does it show the affair as a wonderful, glamorous thing for the first part...then they break up, pine and die emotionally missing each other...and then somehow the drama is resolved? Is it all about the OMG uber "IN LOVE!!!" feelings that Hollywood is convincing us that we're emotionally stunted if we don't feel that way every single moment about the person we're with? Is there any reflection at all of a "mature love" in a long term relationship? Its this kind of drivel that I'm talking about when I mention how Hollywood and romance novels set impossibly high expectations among their fans. Fantasies are GREAT when kept into perspective...unfortunately, when people begin to believe that their life is lacking something when it doesn't meet up with those fantastical expectations people really go through a learning experience. Sorry...but just had to interject a dose of reality in here. I didn't go watch the last Indiana Jones movie and come out thinking that my life should be like that...unfortunately, these kinds of emotional "love" movies set exactly that kind of expectation in too many people. No Owl it actually doesn't glamorize the affair at all. I don't want to give it away but if you saw it you would see that the affair is shown through the BS point of view with a very remorseful WS. It is treated very realistically and it shows how much hurt an affair can cause and the struggle between loving someone who betrayed you and wanting to forgive them versus feeling so hurt and pathetic for accepting back the same person who hurt you badly. I feel like Owl you could actually relate to it and you might like it. There is nothing IMO that paints the affair in a "good" light... instead it shows how much hurt and destruction it can cause (to both WS and BS... it doesn't focus at all on an OW). It also reminded me of threads on LS but in my opinion the BS and remorseful WS win out over any kind of OW viewpoint (which, again, isn't shown but the viewpoints that have been discussed on here) and any kind of "justification" for an affair.
Owl Posted June 23, 2008 Posted June 23, 2008 Ahh...interesting. Thanks Nadja...shows what I know...and how foolish I can be when I post when I don't know what I'm talking about! You know what they say about ASSUMING...
Author Tomcat33 Posted June 23, 2008 Author Posted June 23, 2008 I've not seen it, nor will I. It sounds like its the typical Hollywood emotional run that's so common nowadays. Does it show the affair as a wonderful, glamorous thing for the first part...then they break up, pine and die emotionally missing each other...and then somehow the drama is resolved? Is it all about the OMG uber "IN LOVE!!!" feelings that Hollywood is convincing us that we're emotionally stunted if we don't feel that way every single moment about the person we're with? Is there any reflection at all of a "mature love" in a long term relationship? Its this kind of drivel that I'm talking about when I mention how Hollywood and romance novels set impossibly high expectations among their fans. Fantasies are GREAT when kept into perspective...unfortunately, when people begin to believe that their life is lacking something when it doesn't meet up with those fantastical expectations people really go through a learning experience. Sorry...but just had to interject a dose of reality in here. I didn't go watch the last Indiana Jones movie and come out thinking that my life should be like that...unfortunately, these kinds of emotional "love" movies set exactly that kind of expectation in too many people. Well maybe you should watch it and then tell me what you think? You see this is the typical response from a male prespective of the show that just DIDN'T get it. I love your assumptions though it solidifies my next point. You know why a lot of men hated this show? Becuase they watched it lacking depth, and chances are you probably never will get it no matter how hard you try. The characters of the show made such a bold statement in the 90's men didn't know if they should hate or abhor these women. But you missed the plot, you got caught up in the bells and whistles, as men often do (men remind me of kittens sometimes, they see a big pink ball of yarn and get so mesmorized by that they fail to see that if they pull on that ball of yarn there is a floodgate of books being held in place by this ball of yarn then they jump scared when books land on them LOL ) Sometimes you boys can be so two dimensional! Look I am not going to pass this movie off as some intellectual peice of art. THAT, it is not. but of all the hollywood crap that is out there this movie takes some basic concept that WE ALL AS HUMANS can relate to and that also bring us together as a society, and marries them to a colourful and flamboyant pictoral for our visual fansies. As a chick what is not to like about that? Anyone who can't relate to heartbreak, deceit, life/love and forgiveness prob would not form any sort of connection to this movie. It's two hours of fun OWL, I never promised you a rose garden! when you go see a movie you check reality at the door otherwise what the heck is the point? We are in the "live in movie" who needs to pay $20 for a peice of reality?
nadiaj2727 Posted June 23, 2008 Posted June 23, 2008 Ahh...interesting. Thanks Nadja...shows what I know...and how foolish I can be when I post when I don't know what I'm talking about! You know what they say about ASSUMING... No I know what you mean because usually in the movies (and books) affairs are glamorized in movies and shown to be romantic fantasies WITHOUT showing all the hurt and destruction that comes from them in reality. In fact watching movies sometimes enabled me to keep being an OW because I would think, "see, this person knows what I'm going through... all the love, passion, connection... it's worth it." So I know why you would guess that this movie glamorizes affairs too but I was just trying to point out that for once that is not the case. Now when I see a movie or read a book that glamorizes an affair, even from an OW point of view, I realize from learning the hard way that there is a lot of pain that comes with waiting around for the man you are so magically in love with to leave his wife or sneak away to be with you. Or that it feels great when the two of you are together but as soon as he goes back home reality sets in and you're like, oh my god, he is so using me. Not to mention that I remember there is also the wife at home who doesn't deserve to be treated without her knowledge the same way or in some ways worse than the OW is allowing herself to be treated WITH her knowledge. But I find it refreshing when movies explore it from the perspective of a couple with little or normal problems and look into the issues of the struggles the BS face. I hope it never happens to me but I find it interesting that there are so many different reactions... anger, jealousy, passivity, denial, begging and pleading to stay, kicking the partner out right away, etc. I won't say which one happens in the movie (BTW I hated the show Sex and the City but I really liked the movie, and you don't have to know what happened in the show to understand the movie) all are understandable to me and I could see (if I thought about what would happen if it happened to me) why the betrayed spouse would act that way or be so confused and hurt that they wouldn't know HOW to act at first.. What I still can't wrap my head around understanding is how I could have been the one to help the betrayer betray the spouse. Eww. I don't think there's anything glamorous about that and I guess because I know ALL about the ups and downs of that side, and I can see right through any glamorizations of it, I am more interested when the perspective is from the couple or the BS.
Author Tomcat33 Posted June 23, 2008 Author Posted June 23, 2008 No I know what you mean because usually in the movies (and books) affairs are glamorized in movies and shown to be romantic fantasies WITHOUT showing all the hurt and destruction that comes from them in reality. In fact watching movies sometimes enabled me to keep being an OW because I would think, "see, this person knows what I'm going through... all the love, passion, connection... it's worth it." So I know why you would guess that this movie glamorizes affairs too but I was just trying to point out that for once that is not the case. Now when I see a movie or read a book that glamorizes an affair, even from an OW point of view, I realize from learning the hard way that there is a lot of pain that comes with waiting around for the man you are so magically in love with to leave his wife or sneak away to be with you. Or that it feels great when the two of you are together but as soon as he goes back home reality sets in and you're like, oh my god, he is so using me. Not to mention that I remember there is also the wife at home who doesn't deserve to be treated without her knowledge the same way or in some ways worse than the OW is allowing herself to be treated WITH her knowledge. But I find it refreshing when movies explore it from the perspective of a couple with little or normal problems and look into the issues of the struggles the BS face. I hope it never happens to me but I find it interesting that there are so many different reactions... anger, jealousy, passivity, denial, begging and pleading to stay, kicking the partner out right away, etc. I won't say which one happens in the movie (BTW I hated the show Sex and the City but I really liked the movie, and you don't have to know what happened in the show to understand the movie) all are understandable to me and I could see (if I thought about what would happen if it happened to me) why the betrayed spouse would act that way or be so confused and hurt that they wouldn't know HOW to act at first.. What I still can't wrap my head around understanding is how I could have been the one to help the betrayer betray the spouse. Eww. I don't think there's anything glamorous about that and I guess because I know ALL about the ups and downs of that side, and I can see right through any glamorizations of it, I am more interested when the perspective is from the couple or the BS. Let's not over do it now Nadia, it was not so one sided as you are painting it. There were reasons things happened as they did and the wife at home was not the only one in pain leading up to the things that happened and this is what a lot of people fail to admit to and it was very interesting how the movie played into this notion. All the situations were quite realistic the emotions were so vivid I did not expect this from this movie. I had no desire to see it since they often end up butchering a good thing when they take a show/book and make it into a movie but I was pleasantly surprised here and even more sad I will never see a new episode of the show again. So let's not paint a skewed picture now, and let's not give much more of the film away for those that have not seen it. That was not the point of this thread.
Author Tomcat33 Posted June 23, 2008 Author Posted June 23, 2008 OMG.. I think I'll go tonite.. yahyayah go tonight, and come back and tell us what you think of it "Sam"
OWoman Posted June 23, 2008 Posted June 23, 2008 You know why a lot of men hated this show? Becuase they watched it lacking depth, and chances are you probably never will get it no matter how hard you try. I must confess I never "got" the show either, and won't be going to see the movie. Watching spoilt brat narcissistic women who spend all day agonising over their precious superficial selves irritated me beyond belief and simply reinforced every prejudice I ever had about women with too much money and too few real problems. I'm rather going to go and see "Married Life" - it looks far more interesting and wittier, even if the MM does decide to off the W instead of D her, so that he can be with the OW.
Author Tomcat33 Posted June 23, 2008 Author Posted June 23, 2008 I must confess I never "got" the show either, and won't be going to see the movie. Watching spoilt brat narcissistic women who spend all day agonising over their precious superficial selves irritated me beyond belief and simply reinforced every prejudice I ever had about women with too much money and too few real problems. Sure it all boils down to what we relate to. They are just a glammed up version of what MOST women bieng single go though. It's no biggie if some people are put off by it, to those that aren't go see it, it is well worth the $20, and escape is escape. If I am going to escape to be entertained I want to do it as far away from my reality as possible, but that's just me. I don't take movies like these so literally which is why I was so shocked to see the depth that transpired on the big screen. On the same token Married Life was playing at the Toronto Film Festival and I had NO desire to see that. I just don't need to see yet another movie about some guy with a mistress that offs his W OR the mistress in order to make everything right for himself. There are enough movies out there that chastise women and make heroes of less than desirable men. At least in the simplicity of Sex And the City it celebrates what being a woman is. Of course it makes it over the top and takes it to an unrealistic plane but it does capture the essence if you allow it to take you away. I can relate more to that than to some mistress film, which sure being an OW was a small fragment of my being and my life but, being a woman is who and what I am foremost, and what I plan to be for the rest of my life.
OpenBook Posted June 23, 2008 Posted June 23, 2008 At least in the simplicity of Sex And the City it celebrates what being a woman is. Of course it makes it over the top and takes it to an unrealistic plane but it does capture the essence if you allow it to take you away. I can relate more to that than to some mistress film, which sure being an OW was a small fragment of my being and my life but, being a woman is who and what I am foremost, and what I plan to be for the rest of my life. Well said Tomcat!! That is the essence of its appeal to me and my homey-G's!!
OpenBook Posted June 23, 2008 Posted June 23, 2008 Now I'm trying to guess who the WS and BS were... Miranda and Steve?? (That would be my first guess.) Charlotte and Harry?? Carrie and Big?? (the most likely of the bunch...) Ooh it's killing me. I still think Carrie was a fool with Aidan. What a perfect guy!!
Author Tomcat33 Posted June 24, 2008 Author Posted June 24, 2008 Now I'm trying to guess who the WS and BS were... Miranda and Steve?? (That would be my first guess.) Charlotte and Harry?? Carrie and Big?? (the most likely of the bunch...) Ooh it's killing me. I still think Carrie was a fool with Aidan. What a perfect guy!! Ohhh I SO want to spill the beans but I can't, it's not fair. I know I used to like Aidan but I like Big more he is a better match for Carrie..ehhem yeah Carrie...!
Lizzie60 Posted June 24, 2008 Posted June 24, 2008 I saw it tonite.. with my younger 'date'... We liked it.. but I know I would have enjoyed it more with my 'girl friends' or my daughter... This guy was not a big fan of SatC to begin with.. he thought it was a little exaggerated... Anyway... I find it OK.. I am definitely a Samantha.. My date tonite is 20 years younger.. he knows my age and is OK with it.. I haven't had sex with him.. and I told him he'll have to wait.. this time.. he's also OK with it... I let him play with my boobs though.. he's a boob guy...
OWoman Posted June 24, 2008 Posted June 24, 2008 On the same token Married Life was playing at the Toronto Film Festival and I had NO desire to see that. I just don't need to see yet another movie about some guy with a mistress that offs his W OR the mistress in order to make everything right for himself. There are enough movies out there that chastise women and make heroes of less than desirable men. OK... My reasons for wanting to see it were based on the quality of acting and cinematography I saw in the trailer. I prefer arthouse movies to Hollywood bubblegum, same as I prefer restaurants to fast food. At least in the simplicity of Sex And the City it celebrates what being a woman is. That's the exact problem I have with it - it presents that superficial materialism as if that was what being a woman is. It plays to all kinds of negative stereotypes - stereotypes which don't resonate with my life or the lives of any real women I know even remotely. I'm proud to be a woman, but when I see drivel like S&TC I think there must be a third gender that those of us who don't conform to Hollywood stereotypes belong to. Maybe we just need to find another name for ourselves and stop pretending we're the same as them?
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