Jersey Shortie Posted June 15, 2008 Posted June 15, 2008 For the guys, I have a few questions: 1. What are things about women you don't like but have come to accept are true about women? 2.What are you willing to put up with and not put up with? 3.What are you willing to sacrifice to be in a relationship with a woman? 4.What is one thing you truly enjoy about women? (Please no comments about physical features because we women already know you like our physical features). 5. Do you value loyatly? 6. How do you define loyatly? 7. Do you perfer being in a committed relationship with one woman or dating many different women? 8. Why do you have romantic relationships with women? 9. Do you have expectations of your woman? If so, what are they?
Author Jersey Shortie Posted June 15, 2008 Author Posted June 15, 2008 What can I say, I'm complex and deep wrapped up in a small package.
Lizzie60 Posted June 15, 2008 Posted June 15, 2008 What can I say, I'm complex and deep wrapped up in a small package. Hum... not one answer yet.. don't forget that a lot of men type with 2 fingers.. so you'd get more answers with a 'yes or no' questionnaire.
Tony T Posted June 15, 2008 Posted June 15, 2008 1. What are things about women you don't like but have come to accept are true about women? There is nothing that is true of ALL women but I have found that many of them are not disposed to telling the truth about everything. I suppose this is true of men as well. I also think that many will juggle a number of men in their lives until they find exactly the right one for them. Then they forget the rest. 2.What are you willing to put up with and not put up with? Women test men. If a man puts up with anything without calling them on it, they are dead in the water. There are some character flaws that men will tolerate but different men will put up with different things. The older a man gets, usually the less he will tolerate in terms of BS. 3.What are you willing to sacrifice to be in a relationship with a woman? Not a thing. Sacrificing something meaningful to be in a relationship builds resentment over the long run. I suppose there are small things that can be given up, such as annoying habits, bad language...stuff like that. But a man has to remain who he is or it's just fraud. 4.What is one thing you truly enjoy about women? (Please no comments about physical features because we women already know you like our physical features). Nothing beats female companionship if its with the right woman. 5. Do you value loyatly? Yep, it's right up there. There are many woman who are loyal and a legion who simply move on through life to the best they can find at the time. It's different for everybody. 6. How do you define loyatly? Sticking with someone and accepting them despite their imperfections. I think loyalty is very similar to commitment. 7. Do you prefer being in a committed relationship with one woman or dating many different women? It depends where a man is in life. When the rubber hits the road at the end of the day, I think most men would prefer to have one great lady by their side. 8. Why do you have romantic relationships with women? It's a biological thing built into the psyche and physiology. It's just nice to be in love. Odd question. 9. Do you have expectations of your woman? If so, what are they? I expect loyalty, honesty and acceptance. The less BS the better. I suppose there are other things that men would LIKE...expectations are dangerous because they open you up for disappointment. If a woman doesn't fit the bill for a man in most ways, it's not likely he will have a relationship with her.
Author Jersey Shortie Posted June 15, 2008 Author Posted June 15, 2008 8. Why do you have romantic relationships with women? It's a biological thing built into the psyche and physiology. It's just nice to be in love. Odd question. I ask because the way men always talk about other women and their need for variety and other women often makes me wonder why men even bother having relationships where a woman expects more from him and expects loyatly from him.
fral945 Posted June 16, 2008 Posted June 16, 2008 For the guys, I have a few questions: 1. What are things about women you don't like but have come to accept are true about women? There is quite a long list. I could name many, but a few that come to mind are: 1) Their treatment of animals like human beings 2) Their obsession with frivolous things (i.e., how the house is decorated, what is happening in popular culture, who's cheating on who in town, etc.) 3) Their lack of self control and accountability, such as making excuses for doing things because of their emotions (i.e, how they feel). Won't say I completely accept this yet, but I'm getting there 4) The illogical and impractical things they do 5) Their financial expectations of men I think Jack Nicholson's quote says it best in "As Good as it Gets" when he was asked how he wrote women so well. He said: "I think of a man, and I take away reason and accountability." That quote always makes me laugh, because I find so much truth to that in my own experience. I'm sure there are plenty of reasonable and accountable women. I've met quite a few on here. I just don't meet many on a regular basis in real life. 2.What are you willing to put up with and not put up with? I won't put up with: 1) Overbearing, loud, pushy women (i.e., bitchy women) 2) Women who can't maintain a healthy weight 3) Women who are financially unstable/unaccountable 4) An infrequent sex life (i.e., women who put sex way down on the priority list in a relationship) I will put up with the things listed in question 1 and more to a large extent, because I just accept that there are differences and I will never completely comprehend them. I'll laugh and scratch my head sometimes, but then I tell myself "Hey, she's a woman, that's just the way they are." I just accept them and realize that women are not wired like men. 3.What are you willing to sacrifice to be in a relationship with a woman? Quite a bit for the right person. My job, where I live, etc. 4.What is one thing you truly enjoy about women? (Please no comments about physical features because we women already know you like our physical features). Since we can't comment on the physical, I'd have to say comfort. There's something about the closeness with a woman that makes me feel good inside and is comforting. Of course, when I speak of the closeness sex is a big part in providing that (though not the only part). 5. Do you value loyatly? Yes 6. How do you define loyatly? Being there for someone because you care about them and supporting them even if you do not necessarily agree with all of their decisions. 7. Do you perfer being in a committed relationship with one woman or dating many different women? Committed relationship. It's difficult to have a satisfying, regular sex life with many different women. Seems appealing at first glance but in reality it isn't. STDs, drama, jealousy, etc. One woman is quite enough, thank you. 8. Why do you have romantic relationships with women? 1) I want a regular sex life with someone I'm attracted to and care about 2) I want to start a family 3) I want the love and comfort provided by a woman 9. Do you have expectations of your woman? If so, what are they? Yes. They are: 1) Good looking (at least to me) 2) Regular, varied, long term decent sex life 3) Can maintain a healthy weight 4) Not too overbearing or nagging (preferably a middle of the road or easy going personality) 5) Understands differences and is willing to compromise and work things out 6) Financial stability (this doesn't mean rich, just able to live within her means) 6) Somewhat educated, though not too smart 7) Kind, loving, caring, and gentle
J2FT1 Posted June 16, 2008 Posted June 16, 2008 hey fral945, great post. I agree with everything you said.
carhill Posted June 16, 2008 Posted June 16, 2008 1. What are things about women you don't like but have come to accept are true about women? IME, the majority of their existence is between the lines, meaning that, to me as a pure male, they exist in universe which is slightly out of phase from my own. I sense their universe but do not understand it intellectually. 2.What are you willing to put up with and not put up with? My main deal-breaker has been ignoral. Ignore me at your own peril I've "put up" with almost everything else, perhaps to my chagrin. 3.What are you willing to sacrifice to be in a relationship with a woman? My self-righteousness. I've always been much more compromising in my R's than in my single/business life. Much more gray. 4.What is one thing you truly enjoy about women? (Please no comments about physical features because we women already know you like our physical features). I love their perspective on the life process and their ability to be emotionally intimate. 5. Do you value loyalty? Loyalty and prioritizing the R/M is right at the top of my list. 6. How do you define loyalty? Believing in, supporting and prioritizing one's partner. IMO, one's spouse should be prioritized before all other conditional loves. 7. Do you prefer being in a committed relationship with one woman or dating many different women? I prefer a monogamous emotional and sexual relationship. I enjoy the company of women but only wish to date or be intimate with one. 8. Why do you have romantic relationships with women? Mainly because it makes me feel fulfilled to treat another human being whom I'm attracted to in a loving and intimate way. 9. Do you have expectations of your woman? If so, what are they? My main expectations are that she will value my strengths, appreciate and reciprocate the gift of my love and share her true inner self with me and trust that I will forever hold it dear and sacrosanct. OK, where's my prize?
Trialbyfire Posted June 16, 2008 Posted June 16, 2008 3.What are you willing to sacrifice to be in a relationship with a woman? My self-righteousness. My apologies if you intended it seriously, but that struck me as pretty tongue-in-cheek!
carhill Posted June 16, 2008 Posted June 16, 2008 No, it's really honest. No woman could live with me in my natural, unfettered state. Just ask my wife Personally, for me, I think it's a healthy sacrifice. Since our M has been in trouble, my single perspective has re-emerged and, objectively viewed, I don't like it much anymore. Changing the behaviors, absent the pull of the relationship (losing the love) has been part of my work in MC. Hope that helps explain the perspective...
fral945 Posted June 16, 2008 Posted June 16, 2008 For the guys, I have a few questions: 1. What are things about women you don't like but have come to accept are true about women? I thought of another one that I had forgotten about. Not being able to be direct. With women, I find they expect lots of mind reading. There is also lots of innuendo, and they seem to have certain assumed expectations of what you should do. They do not take kindly to direct conversations about problems or issues (especially things like weight and problems with sex) and many times don't even want solutions when offered. As a male, this frustrates me. When there are problems, I like to be direct and get to the point and try to fix things. If you have a problem and tell me about it, I will offer a solution, because I don't want to hear about the problem over and over.
Woggle Posted June 16, 2008 Posted June 16, 2008 I won't answer each question but I don't ask anything from a woman that I can't deliver myself and she should not ask anything of me that she can't deliver herself.
Author Jersey Shortie Posted June 16, 2008 Author Posted June 16, 2008 Their treatment of animals like human beings I think this is because women are natural caretakers. 2) Their obsession with frivolous things (i.e., how the house is decorated, what is happening in popular culture, who's cheating on who in town, etc.) Okay but to explain the house being decorated thing. It's not really that frivolous. It's about nesting. Women like to nest and build homes. It's the same concept that men are hunters and gathers. Women stayed home and built a nice home for her man to come back to. So while I do understand it can appear frivolous, and depending on the extremes of what a woman thinks she needs to build a nice home it can be. But for the most part this is a natural thing inside women and not really about being frivolous and wasteful. As for the gossip, guys do that too and it bugs me as well. Expect women focus more on who is cheating on who and men focus more on who ever the new hot up and coming starlet is to talk about with their buddies. 3) Their lack of self control and accountability, such as making excuses for doing things because of their emotions (i.e, how they feel). Won't say I completely accept this yet, but I'm getting there Fral, men again do this too. Except men do it in regards to their emotions towards sex. They show a lack of self control and accountablity when it comes to sex and I also, like you in women, find that annoying and sometimes disheartening. I think Jack Nicholson's quote says it best in "As Good as it Gets" when he was asked how he wrote women so well. He said: "I think of a man, and I take away reason and accountability." That quote always makes me laugh, because I find so much truth to that in my own experience. I'm sure there are plenty of reasonable and accountable women. I've met quite a few on here. I just don't meet many on a regular basis in real life. In turn, I don't meet many men that even have reason or accountablity either. Again, something that works both ways.
Stockalone Posted June 16, 2008 Posted June 16, 2008 1. What are things about women you don't like but have come to accept are true about women? 1. That they are so interested in other people's lives and assume that I am too. I care about family and friends, but I don't consider gossip about people I have met once or twice in my life to be useful information or even remotely interesting. 2. That they sometimes say one thing but mean the exact opposite and I am supposed to know when that is the case. 3. Their evasiveness. Women tend to ask questions in a way that is very vague but expect a specific answer. If you want a yes or a no as an answer, then ask direct questions. Do not ask me hypothetical questions where I will give you a hypothetical answer that you don't want to hear. 2.What are you willing to put up with and not put up with? Things I won't put up with: 1. Cheating. 2. A woman who wants to change me, or worse, one who thinks that she knows better than I do what I need and want. 3. Drama. Constantly being irrational and throwing a hissy fit if things don't go her way will get you nowhere with me. I do not need a woman that behaves like my sister at age 14. 4. Women who refuse to do household chores and think we should hire a maid, a nanny, ect. instead of doing those things ourselves. Things I will put up with: 1. Women who are being moody/bitchy when they experience PMS. 2. My answer to your first question. Those are things I don't understand but have learned to live with. 3.What are you willing to sacrifice to be in a relationship with a woman? To be honest, nothing that defines who I am. I am not going to change who I am. I am perfectly capable of living on my own and content to be single. I am willing to compromise though, but that also means that the woman will have to meet me halfway. 4.What is one thing you truly enjoy about women? (Please no comments about physical features because we women already know you like our physical features). I enjoy the felling that makes me want to become a better person when I am in love. 5. Do you value loyatly? Absolutely. 6. How do you define loyatly? Loyalty means being faithful and/or devoted to a relationship or cause. Something that is more important than my own needs and sometimes it means doing something I rather wouldn't want to do. I have to admit that this is also one of my biggest flaws. I am very loyal, but I can never put a woman on top of my priority list. 1. God 2. Country 3. Family and the woman I love. These are my priorities and it is not fair in regards to the woman who loves me, but it is who I am. 7. Do you perfer being in a committed relationship with one woman or dating many different women? I think dating multiple people is rude. And I never wanted (nor have I tried) anything else than a committed relationship. 8. Why do you have romantic relationships with women? 1. Being in love with a woman makes me a better person. I am better when I am responsible for more than just myself. 2. I still hope to find a woman who wants to start a family together. 3. Sex. 9. Do you have expectations of your woman? If so, what are they? 1. I have to be sexually attracted to her. 2. She should be intelligent. Ideally, we stimulate/challenge each other in that regard. 3. I want a family of my own, not a patchwork family. So I want a woman who has no children. 4. She has to be a Christian, or at least has to be o.k. with our children being raised as Christians. 5. She has to share my core morals and values (e.g. honesty, pro-life, monogamous, opposed to casual sex), otherwise a relationship won't work. 6. No body art. I can't stand piercings and tatoos. They are a huge turn-off. 7. She mustn't be a health freak. I don't mind if she is a vegetarian though, as long as I can eat meat.
twice_shy Posted June 16, 2008 Posted June 16, 2008 For the guys, I have a few questions: 1. What are things about women you don't like but have come to accept are true about women? They are always late and will make you late as well. 2.What are you willing to put up with and not put up with? Willing to put up with going shopping with them. Not willing to put up with flirting, cheating, clubbing or bar hopping. 3.What are you willing to sacrifice to be in a relationship with a woman? I've already sacrificed enough. So the answer would be nothing. Its time to start doing things for myself and enjoying life. 4.What is one thing you truly enjoy about women? (Please no comments about physical features because we women already know you like our physical features). The nice warm hugs and kisses. The couch time with them cozying up watching a good movie. 5. Do you value loyatly? Above everything else, yes. 6. How do you define loyatly? Emotionally and physically faithfullness. 7. Do you perfer being in a committed relationship with one woman or dating many different women? Use to prefer a committed relationship. Still think I do. However I won't commit easy any longer. So the jury is out on that one. But if I do date, I won't date many at one time. If I want a committed relationship with someone, I don't think thats the way to go about getting one. 8. Why do you have romantic relationships with women? Some would say men want that for sex. But we can get sex without a romantic relationship. We want romantic relationships for the same reason, I suspect, as women. We want that closeness, emotional bond with someone. Some men might do it for the sex, but then it really isn't a romantic relationship. 9. Do you have expectations of your woman? If so, what are they? fidelity and to help me keep the house clean. thats about it.
fral945 Posted June 16, 2008 Posted June 16, 2008 JS, I agree with all of your responses. Your reasoning and explanations pretty much match mine. Just to be clear, I never claimed men don't also do some of these things as well. It's apparent you and I share some of the same annoyances with the opposite sex. The ones were share, however, have more to do with the way society is structured and what is expected/accepted. Accountability is not an important value to many people.
BentSpine Posted June 16, 2008 Posted June 16, 2008 1. What are things about women you don't like but have come to accept are true about women? A man's height really is important to women. 2.What are you willing to put up with and not put up with? Can't tell yet. My gut/emotions will tell me the day when I've had enough. 3.What are you willing to sacrifice to be in a relationship with a woman? Other women. 4.What is one thing you truly enjoy about women? (Please no comments about physical features because we women already know you like our physical features). It feels great when I make them laugh. 5. Do you value loyatly? Yes, who doesn't want someone to be helpful to you? 6. How do you define loyatly?Staying when it would be easier not to. To be loyal it's necessary to have a more attractive alternative. 7. Do you perfer being in a committed relationship with one woman or dating many different women? I'm going to assume you mean if I prefer an exclusive relationship with one woman or non-exclusive relationships with several women. My answer is this: If I love her, I will not have eyes for any other woman. And I want to love like that again. 8. Why do you have romantic relationships with women? Besides the sexual? Because I want someone to believe in the goodness in me. A supportive companion who is on my side through my challenges in life. 9. Do you have expectations of your woman? If so, what are they?Being able to apologise. Not using the word 'should'. Doesn't smoke. Sports no tattoos(hasn't any covered up either). Enjoys dancing(ballroom). Believes in Darwin's evolution. Wears sunglasses only when the sunlight is bothersome and then only the model you can see their eyes through. Eats meat. And finally, no fake breasts.
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