KenzieAbsolutely Posted June 15, 2008 Posted June 15, 2008 i hate the phone unless it's an important or lengthy conversation. if not, then texting is lovely. text me anytime. i like the privacy of it as well; no one can listen in on your texting.
Trialbyfire Posted June 15, 2008 Posted June 15, 2008 Trial - I'm a Literacy Tutor...I doubt I am confusing anything. YOU are - your appreciation of Literacy is tabloid, I'm afraid. I repeat...there are FOUR areas to Literacy: Speaking, Listening, Reading and Writing. clairebear, you can call anything, anything you want. Regardless, if you refer to any dictionary definition of literacy, you will find that speech is not part of it. What you're suggesting is that mute or deaf people are illiterate.
KenzieAbsolutely Posted June 15, 2008 Posted June 15, 2008 clairebear, you can call anything, anything you want. Regardless, if you refer to any dictionary definition of literacy, you will find that speech is not part of it. What you're suggesting is that mute or deaf people are illiterate. oooooooooooh, burn! i'm sure when the phone was invented, some people were all up in arms about losing face time with people. they got over it only a matter of time for this.
johan Posted June 15, 2008 Posted June 15, 2008 Claire, you must be related to the guy to put so much into his defense. I think most people would back off if you just stated that you know who the original poster is talking about, and it's your developmentally disabled brother. I think the original poster wouldn't be annoyed if the guy was somehow telephone challenged. Of course, if he lacked such a basic skill, she probably wouldn't be dating him at all. A phone call is more personal. It's a matter of etiquette among normal adults that some communication should be done using the voice, and some is acceptable via text. People who violate this are either scared to call and actually chat or are lazy. Maybe you should put a little lesson about this into your Literacy tutorial. I assume the majority of the time you spend doing Literacy tutoring is dedicated to reading and writing.
clairebear Posted June 15, 2008 Posted June 15, 2008 Hi Johan - actually no!! I have a lot of class debates and discussions, just to improve the listening and speaking ability of our young people!! Just so they stop grunting at us lol!! My point is...we haven't walked a day in the OP's shoes, so can't judge, really. NOTHING to do with literacy!!
johan Posted June 15, 2008 Posted June 15, 2008 I agree with you. We also don't know what the guy she's dating faces in life. He's probably just an average guy who hates talking on the phone. Your definition of literacy is broader than most people's.
clairebear Posted June 15, 2008 Posted June 15, 2008 clairebear, you can call anything, anything you want. Regardless, if you refer to any dictionary definition of literacy, you will find that speech is not part of it. What you're suggesting is that mute or deaf people are illiterate. Noooo...I am saying that Speaking and Listening skills form part of Literacy. I'm in London so perhaps we are ahead of you slightly, but I would have thought that was obvious. My apologies if not.
clairebear Posted June 15, 2008 Posted June 15, 2008 I agree with you. We also don't know what the guy she's dating faces in life. He's probably just an average guy who hates talking on the phone. Your definition of literacy is broader than most people's. I'm in London!! I think that's the difference!
carhill Posted June 15, 2008 Posted June 15, 2008 OP, how is the guy's face-to-face literacy? If it's good, next "dinner" tell him what you want and let him put those literacy skills to work
clairebear Posted June 15, 2008 Posted June 15, 2008 Carhill - making fun of someone's dilemma is totally lame!! *sigh*
Trialbyfire Posted June 15, 2008 Posted June 15, 2008 Noooo...I am saying that Speaking and Listening skills form part of Literacy. I'm in London so perhaps we are ahead of you slightly, but I would have thought that was obvious. My apologies if not. Where I completely disagree. What I'm seeing is someone who probably uses the term domestic engineer...
clairebear Posted June 15, 2008 Posted June 15, 2008 Where I completely disagree. What I'm seeing is someone who probably uses the term domestic engineer... Don't be daft!! I'm not petty at all Trial.....and LOATHE PC!! :cool::cool: i'm just loud mouth me!
Trialbyfire Posted June 15, 2008 Posted June 15, 2008 OP, how is the guy's face-to-face literacy? If it's good, next "dinner" tell him what you want and let him put those literacy skills to work It will only work if he's literate, since listening is part of literacy.
carhill Posted June 15, 2008 Posted June 15, 2008 Carhill - making fun of someone's dilemma is totally lame!! *sigh* No, it's not lame, it's an honest bit of advice. If you want to see some lame, I'm happy to oblige you
clairebear Posted June 15, 2008 Posted June 15, 2008 No, it's not lame, it's an honest bit of advice. If you want to see some lame, I'm happy to oblige you oo-er missus!!! :):)
imbewildered Posted June 15, 2008 Posted June 15, 2008 in literacy there are four key skills - speaking, listening, reading and writing. Absolutely correct !
Star Gazer Posted June 15, 2008 Posted June 15, 2008 Where I completely disagree. What I'm seeing is someone who probably uses the term domestic engineer... :lmao: Thing is Trial, Claire is right. Even Wikipedia says so.
imbewildered Posted June 15, 2008 Posted June 15, 2008 I am pondering what the OP is really saying . I am speculating that deep down she is concerned that her man's interest level has dropped and possibly she is afraid, angry or hurt that he "resorts" to texting to communicate with her. Perhaps she regards his texting ,with it's inherent human detachment as a sign of falling attraction on his part . Ergo , "He is disrespectful ! " means ," I feel neglected and a little less loved. I am hurt ." Hmmmm?
JackhammerGemma Posted June 15, 2008 Posted June 15, 2008 Could be that it's just an easier way for him to communicate. My most recent ex has always been a frequent texter. He is emotionally vacant 90% of the time but the times he opens up is usually over text, believe it or not. Maybe because he feels less "on the spot." It never bothered me at all that he texted more than called....that is, until he broke up with me over text. A**HOLE
Cherry Blossom 35 Posted June 15, 2008 Posted June 15, 2008 Who cares if Claire is right or not? Ok, so talking on the phone is a literacy skill. Fine, let's say that is true. It is ALSO a social skill. Sorry, but that is also true. Being able to navigate the social world involves many arenas, and the phone is one of them. And yes, I love London, but I am not daft because i do not live there, hon. But back to the original point. The OP is no comfortable with the situation as it is. She can accept the way it is or say something about it.
BentSpine Posted June 15, 2008 Posted June 15, 2008 To me, text messages aren't impolite at all. In my family, we use text messages a lot to set up a time and space for meeting, and my parents are retired. At least we haven't learnt to make such a short a call without appearing rude. I appreciate the time I get before replying to think the options through. That includes making up a plan B and plan C. Because I'm not very fond of negative surprises. A text message will reach the recipient as soon as the recipient is ready. I can think about what to write, send it and then forget it. If I had to call but couldn't reach the person, everything else in my life would be put more or less on hold until I get hold of the person. (I can only have one worry in my mind at a time. No multitasking here.)
Cherry Blossom 35 Posted June 15, 2008 Posted June 15, 2008 To me, text messages aren't impolite at all. In my family, we use text messages a lot to set up a time and space for meeting, and my parents are retired. At least we haven't learnt to make such a short a call without appearing rude. I appreciate the time I get before replying to think the options through. That includes making up a plan B and plan C. Because I'm not very fond of negative surprises. A text message will reach the recipient as soon as the recipient is ready. I can think about what to write, send it and then forget it. If I had to call but couldn't reach the person, everything else in my life would be put more or less on hold until I get hold of the person. (I can only have one worry in my mind at a time. No multitasking here.) This is a good example of when the text really works. I think that the difference is that the OP is still in courting mode with her guy. They are not long time lovers, and they are not family. She still wants to feel as though he is making an effort with her, and the text is not doing it. I believe this is the crux of the matter. Am I right, OP?
Trialbyfire Posted June 15, 2008 Posted June 15, 2008 This is a good example of when the text really works. I think that the difference is that the OP is still in courting mode with her guy. They are not long time lovers, and they are not family. She still wants to feel as though he is making an effort with her, and the text is not doing it. I believe this is the crux of the matter. Am I right, OP? I agree. The OP on the otherhand, has to assert herself. He can't live up to an expectation he's not aware of.
Cherry Blossom 35 Posted June 15, 2008 Posted June 15, 2008 I agree. The OP on the otherhand, has to assert herself. He can't live up to an expectation he's not aware of. Yep, agreed.
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