browneyes22 Posted June 10, 2008 Posted June 10, 2008 Over the years I have met a lot of girls that love to flirt with me but once I try to take it to the next level they flake out and cut off contanct with me. I seem to be a magnet for these types 'cause I get them all the time and it's really annoying. It's starts off good and well with conversation and light flirting but often these girls bring it to a level that is wierd. This is too bad 'cause i'd rather flirt with them over dinner and drinks before it gets to this. But once the "psycho" level is reached its game over. It's not that I don't like it but this attention would be better appreciated at a different time and place. The annoying bit of this is that I would love to take them out to see how things go in a social setting. A lot of my guy friends get to do this with girls that don't give them as much white hot interest as I seem to get. I mean I just would like to spend some money on them during a night out. I guess it's the old thing that once you show interest in someone their interest in you dies. I don't think it's this simple however. Generally they are younger than me and attractive. As for me I've always gotten good feedback about my looks, personality, etc. In the past I've dated attractive girls with good personalites. I say all this stuff 'cause I don't think I am an undatable loser. But maybe I am??? Perhaps you ladies know something I don't.
daphne Posted June 11, 2008 Posted June 11, 2008 It's hard to tell since I don't know the length of time this has been happening and what your personality's like. It may just be cyclical. I've had looooonnng dry spells of only crazy flirting. Part of it was that I wanted a boyfriend too much and they could probably tell and were a little spooked. The other part was that those that wanted a relationship weren't what I was looking for. It's funny how when you don't care, you get more of what you don't necessarily want. Maybe if you focus on other things and take it as it comes and have fun flirting it'll fix itself.
Pedigree Posted June 11, 2008 Posted June 11, 2008 Not a girl, but it could be that they're already taken and are just playing around.
Author browneyes22 Posted June 11, 2008 Author Posted June 11, 2008 Maybe if you focus on other things and take it as it comes and have fun flirting it'll fix itself. Boy if I had a dime for everytime i've heard this advice. I don't force these situations at all...they find me. Pedigree...I have yet to meet an attractive girl that is single for a long period of time. Usually they have a boyfriend and about 4-5 guys waiting in the wings for them. If their playing around with me then the relationship is not very serious and i've got something boyfriend does not have, or the're just f'd up.
Pedigree Posted June 11, 2008 Posted June 11, 2008 Pedigree...I have yet to meet an attractive girl that is single for a long period of time. Usually they have a boyfriend and about 4-5 guys waiting in the wings for them. If their playing around with me then the relationship is not very serious and i've got something boyfriend does not have, or the're just f'd up. You hit the nail right on the head there, browneyes.
daphne Posted June 12, 2008 Posted June 12, 2008 I meant it'll fix itself in that he won't be sending out an overly eager vibe. Not that he should stop looking... Two entirely different things.
sortofconfused Posted June 12, 2008 Posted June 12, 2008 wow.... i feel ya buddy, i have this exact same problem and i am just as confused as you. i really do think it is as you say, once they know, their interest wanes. just a few weeks ago a very hot girl who had been flirting pretty heavy with me and nagging me about when we were gonna hang out, gave me her number with out me asking. when i call, she seems completely down to chill and says its a plan, thats the last i heard from her, lol. this happened to me twice within 5 weeks, i even posted about the first one on here....... what can you do? some girls are just crazy/ mad flaky. i also get many copliments from girls about my looks, personality etcetera but when i try to take it to the next level with girls, it all seems to fall apart. i guess its karma for sort of unfairly dumping the girl who i had the longest relationship with........
Author browneyes22 Posted June 12, 2008 Author Posted June 12, 2008 sortofconfused...nice to know I'm not alone. But I don't feel i'm getting bad karma for something. I do know what goes around comes around. If they dish this sort of behaviour out it's probably 'cause they take it a lot. I think when they "hook" me in and I ask them out after some over the top flirting display they give me they think I'm a pushover and too easy or something. It's so stupid...i'm just trying to go with the flow and they get all nuts. I honelsty think that a lot of these girls are chicken s@#t 'cause usually their history of men is less than impressive. I'm not perfect by any means but the guys they are with tend to be sketch. And even if they are not dodgy dudes I can still compete as I have a lot to offer...this is why they flirt with me in the first place I suppose. I don't see them flirting like this with many others.
monkey00 Posted June 12, 2008 Posted June 12, 2008 Experience has taught me that often women who are in relationships or seeing someone are more flirt friendly than their single counterparts, and they aren't necessarily looking to cheat either. Single girls on the other hand I notice usually clam up or are more quiet when in your presence (if interested). I say go after the quiet ones, if they behave nervous/shy around you, it's a more telltale sign they're interested and looking. Though there are women who are real and will flirt if they are truly interested - these sir are not attention whores and are actually confident in themselves.
missdeathwish Posted June 12, 2008 Posted June 12, 2008 Wow, lots of guys giving responses on this. I personally think it's fun to flirt. It boosts your confidence, it gives you the chance to have some friendly banter, and it's a lively way to interact with someone. There are women and men who flirt for the sake of flirting. Sometimes it could be that they think you're fun to flirt with but not interested in dating you. That happens. (Much in the same way that guys will date/sleep with a girl who they're not interested in marrying or having a serious relationship with.) I'll admit that I've done it before. The guy's perfectly nice and fun to flirt with, but I'm not in a place where I want a relationship, I know we're not on the same page regarding relationships, I'm really not all that attracted to him, I prefer him as a friend, I don't want to invest the time/emotions in it... whatever. I recently had this happen. And the guy was totally sure that if I went out with him I'd become interested. I didn't. I just realized that he was crazy intense and just not what I wanted or needed at that point in my life. Maybe you should try women your own age. I don't know how significant the age difference is, but younger girls might be flattered by the fact that an older man is showing interest in them, but weirded out at the thought of being with one. Again depending on the age difference, women who are closer in age to you might also have more comparable desires. One tip: don't try to convince them of anything (your intentions, how great you are, etc). I had a guy do that and it made me very uncomfortable.
Author browneyes22 Posted June 12, 2008 Author Posted June 12, 2008 Wow, lots of guys giving responses on this. I personally think it's fun to flirt. It boosts your confidence, it gives you the chance to have some friendly banter, and it's a lively way to interact with someone. There are women and men who flirt for the sake of flirting. Oh I flirt as well but leave it to be very innocent. I mean I'm a friendly person that likes to make conversation with all sorts of people. This can often be mistaken for flirting with girls i'm just trying to have conversation with. BUT there is a clear difference when I chat with an attractive girl and I'm interested. I see this difference when girls flirt with me. Sometimes it could be that they think you're fun to flirt with but not interested in dating you. That happens. (Much in the same way that guys will date/sleep with a girl who they're not interested in marrying or having a serious relationship with.) I'll admit that I've done it before. The guy's perfectly nice and fun to flirt with, but I'm not in a place where I want a relationship, I know we're not on the same page regarding relationships, I'm really not all that attracted to him, I prefer him as a friend, I don't want to invest the time/emotions in it... whatever. OK so not to be conceded but it's fairly obvious to me and others around (females and males) whom witnesses this flirting display by these girls that they are attracted to me and interested in me...this is why when they flake out I think it's just them being chicken s#&t. It's always the complete opposite behavior to the flirting. I'm not saying I want a LTR either but to have it abruptly end is a bit harsh. I simply don't believe them if I hear back that they are not interested in a simple date on a friday or saturday night. They don't give the kind of attention I get to the overwieght and/or ugly guys. I recently had this happen. And the guy was totally sure that if I went out with him I'd become interested. I didn't. I just realized that he was crazy intense and just not what I wanted or needed at that point in my life. Based on this you seem to be reckless with your flirting. I think you should be a bit more cautious as to whom you give attention too and how you do so. Maybe you should try women your own age. I don't know how significant the age difference is, but younger girls might be flattered by the fact that an older man is showing interest in them, but weirded out at the thought of being with one. Again depending on the age difference, women who are closer in age to you might also have more comparable desires. This has happened to me with younger, older, close to my age, and far from my age. There is no discrimination in this phenomenon. Regardless, my desires fit closer with those that are younger than me. One tip: don't try to convince them of anything (your intentions, how great you are, etc). I had a guy do that and it made me very uncomfortable. I never try to convince them of anything. Nor do I convince them about how great I am. What I have to offer is shown through my image and personality and I think these things are evident. Thanks for the advice and a womens perspective. But this thread is more confirmation that you women are a bit kooky sometimes. I mean most of these girls are fairly nice people but me personally I don't flirt just for the hell of it. I'm a bit selective as to whom I dish out special attention to 'cause I don't want them getting the wrong idea.
Hotel Paradiso Posted June 12, 2008 Posted June 12, 2008 It's just an ego stroke for them or that they're "flirty" by nature. Learn your lesson that flirtation doesn't mean squat. You need a lot more proof than that to know a woman is into you.
imbewildered Posted June 12, 2008 Posted June 12, 2008 Generally they are younger than me and attractive. As for me I've always gotten good feedback about my looks, personality, etc. In the past I've dated attractive girls with good personalites. I say all this stuff 'cause I don't think I am an undatable loser. But maybe I am??? Perhaps you ladies know something I don't. You have TOO much sexual energy flying around TOO early and too intensely. It is as if all the passion, the banter, the flirting, the teasing that usually is expressed in various settings in the first three months is GUSHING forward in the first few days, Your interaction with these younger woman is like a run-away train. Too fast, too fierce and too intense.. After a few days or a week nobody has anything left to say, or do, or wonder about - it is all done and over before you and she have gotten to the attachment stage. Just sayin..
Author browneyes22 Posted June 12, 2008 Author Posted June 12, 2008 I definately agree more with what imbewildered is saying than Hotel. By the way i've seen all sorts of relationships start from more, less, and everything in between. imbewildered is correct it's too intense too fast and I certainly don't push that aspect of it. But I don't think that in and of intself should push it past a fresh start sort of phase. From my perspective i've been ready and willing for quite some time to have any type of personal relationship blossom from these encounters or any others of the more fleeting and mild variety. But it always seems like they hesitate too much. Not too be an ass here but no wonder people are settling down later in life. I read in another post here that a women in her 30's said she was a "self absorbed biatch" in her 20's. Wonder if she's married yet 'cause there are a bit more single women there 30's these days i'd say. I just feel this is a simple first step towards MANY steps before I settle down with someone. It's fustrating that this has been going on for so long is all. I can play games right back with these girls but that gets me knowhere.
imbewildered Posted June 12, 2008 Posted June 12, 2008 it's too intense too fast and I certainly don't push that aspect of it. If YOU don't "push it" and play a part, then how does it get so intense so quickly? You are most certainly playing a HUGE part, otherwise if would never get up to high speed and into the fast lane so quickly. Slow it down and get to KNOW these gals ONE step at a time, and allow an ATTACHMENT to form. THe trick is to make her comfortable as well as having all the flirty fun.
missdeathwish Posted June 13, 2008 Posted June 13, 2008 I can't figure out how to multi-quote this, but just because the difference between friendly banter and interested flirting is clear to you doesn't mean it's clear to others. Heck, some people are being "normal" when they smack others on the butt. But for others, that's a definite hint of more than friendly interest. Well, the second response does sound a wee bit conceited, but never mind. The girls flirt with you, and go out with you once, then don't want to hang out again. To me, that says that there's initial interest, but it's not sustained. That happens sometimes. A guy can be hot as heck, and really funny at the club, but sometimes the energy changes when it's just a twosome. I don't pretend to understand why. Same reason why you get posts on here by women wondering why their ex wants to get back together once they start dating a new guy. I don't think I'm reckless in my flirting. I am playful and teasing with all of my friends, male and female. You like to flirt, too, you said. I feel like there's a difference between my "real" flirting and my just messing about with friends, but obviously there was an error in translation. The age tip was just because it seemed like you wanted something more serious. It seems to me that the younger the woman, the less she wants to settle down. I certainly got that vibe (your frustration seems to be with going out only once or twice, right?) from you. It's just a possibility. Plus, if you're really outgoing and love socializing and flirting with lots of people, it's possible that girls think you're just out for something casual. When they figure out you want more, they realize it'd be a bad choice. I don't know. What desires do you have that fit better with the younger set? If it's not the relationship ones, this could explain part of your trouble. Trying to date in a pool that isn't interested in what you're interested limits your options. I had that problem awhile back. I was looking for something more serious and exclusive in an environment where most people are looking for the very casual and short term. Not such a great experience. I think Bewildered has the right idea. My guess is that there's something about you that is "too much" for girls. You can get their interest at first, but then they move away. I don't think that girls are afraid of something "real" (as you imply) but are afraid of someone who wants more from them faster than they are willing to give (or have even considered giving). If a girl isn't COMFORTABLE with you, any interest she has in you will fade. Any hint that you might pressure her (to go out again, to go steady, whatever) is going to be a big red flag.Speaking from experience, if a guy makes it clear, either consciously or unconsciously, that he's interested in being serious with me, it is HUGELY off-putting unless I'm on the same page. As for not flirting for the hell of it... YOU DO! You said that in the first paragraph. Flirting doesn't have to be sexual overtures. It's friendly, lighthearted, teasing exchanges with others. Anyway, I wish you luck. And I totally agree that you are probably being too intense. If you're on a track somewhere (to a relationship, a second/third/fourth date, whatever) I think gals will probably notice it. Maybe they are being chicken, but if I get the vibe that someone fully intends to take me somewhere and I don't know if I want to go there, I'm going to bail. I want to feel like I have some say/control in the process... if I feel like the focus is on the next step, or where he wants to go in a relationship, I feel less comfortable and not so much like he's thinking of me so much as the idea of me. Does that make sense? I know that didn't come out as clearly as it could have... this stupid little text window drives me nuts. I'm just trying to offer some insight into what might be going on in a girl's mind. To sum up: -intensity can be very intimidating -feeling intimidated makes most people feel uncomfortable -if a girl feels uncomfortable, she won't trust you -if she doesn't trust you, she won't want to spend more time with you -slow down, relax! -letting a girl know your intentions too soon (before she's had a chance to make up her mind about you and think about what she might want from you) is more likely to be off-putting than a turn-on (unless you're in a girl who is just dying to have a relationship, with anyone, but you don't want that kind of girl) One possible thing to try: Err on the side of WAY safe and low-key... take a girl for coffee instead of dinner... don't invest too much time or money in one until she starts asking you out, too (an indication that she's interested). It may sound crazy, but if you're used to better restaurants/etc than she is, and you take her to dinner somewhere that is a lot nicer than she's used to, she might think you're pulling out all the stops right away.
Author browneyes22 Posted June 13, 2008 Author Posted June 13, 2008 If YOU don't "push it" and play a part, then how does it get so intense so quickly? In all honestly i'm just being me. People think I'm super charming and a smooth talker...but when they say this i'm not doing anything special or putting on any extra effort. Just simply being myself. You are most certainly playing a HUGE part, otherwise if would never get up to high speed and into the fast lane so quickly. Like I said above the only HUGE part I am playing is myself...but i'm not playing around. REALLY i'm just being myself. Slow it down and get to KNOW these gals ONE step at a time, and allow an ATTACHMENT to form. THe trick is to make her comfortable as well as having all the flirty fun. I can't change my personality...try that one yourself see how it goes. I've been acting this way since birth. The only thing I can see happing for sure is their fundamental attraction towards me. Like I previously said others see it too as their are many witnesses (some of there reactions are very interesting at times...it's like real life drama/entertainment for them). Anyways I think for any sort of relationship short term or long term, F-buddy, or soul mate, this fundamental attraction always exists.
Author browneyes22 Posted June 13, 2008 Author Posted June 13, 2008 [QUOTO=missdeathwish;1701311]OK...this is how you multiquote. Just copy and past the syntax from the oritional quoted message like this. I'm using a misspelling of the work quote here so you can see the syntax as it should be. [/QUOTO] I'm trying to keep multiple conversations going here so please excuse my multiple posts here people. I'm trying to nip this thing in the bud. I can't figure out how to multi-quote this, but just because the difference between friendly banter and interested flirting is clear to you doesn't mean it's clear to others. Heck, some people are being "normal" when they smack others on the butt. But for others, that's a definite hint of more than friendly interest. Sure...I understand but I cannot change who I am. Please read my prior response to imbewildered. Well, the second response does sound a wee bit conceited, but never mind. The girls flirt with you, and go out with you once, then don't want to hang out again. To me, that says that there's initial interest, but it's not sustained. That happens sometimes. A guy can be hot as heck, and really funny at the club, but sometimes the energy changes when it's just a twosome. I don't pretend to understand why. Same reason why you get posts on here by women wondering why their ex wants to get back together once they start dating a new guy. Sorry I actually meant conceded not conceited. In other words i'm admitting something to be true (to concede). My misuse there. Anyways I would love to take these girls out one time and have the chemistry continue. That's what I've been saying though is that it never gets to this point and it's frustrating. No crap their interest isn't sustained this is what i'm trying to figure out. I don't think I'm reckless in my flirting. I am playful and teasing with all of my friends, male and female. You like to flirt, too, you said. I feel like there's a difference between my "real" flirting and my just messing about with friends, but obviously there was an error in translation. Well we'd have to see each other in action to clear this up so we'll leave this to rest then. The age tip was just because it seemed like you wanted something more serious. It seems to me that the younger the woman, the less she wants to settle down. I certainly got that vibe (your frustration seems to be with going out only once or twice, right?) from you. It's just a possibility. Plus, if you're really outgoing and love socializing and flirting with lots of people, it's possible that girls think you're just out for something casual. When they figure out you want more, they realize it'd be a bad choice. I don't know. I'm looking for something more than flirting...this is a whole lot of possiblilities. Serious or not it all depends on how we get along. BUT I can never get to this 'cause of the Houdini acts chic like to pull. What desires do you have that fit better with the younger set? If it's not the relationship ones, this could explain part of your trouble. Trying to date in a pool that isn't interested in what you're interested limits your options. I had that problem awhile back. I was looking for something more serious and exclusive in an environment where most people are looking for the very casual and short term. Not such a great experience. Right now I want to date and have fun. I believe that'S pretty on par with the younger crowd. HOWEVER...if I find someone who is amazing during this process I would certainly explore the relationship much more and stop dating others. Girls near my age are thinking more towards settling down quickly and I need to just have fun and enjoy the other person without the pressures of starting a family or anything. I think Bewildered has the right idea. My guess is that there's something about you that is "too much" for girls. You can get their interest at first, but then they move away. I don't think that girls are afraid of something "real" (as you imply) but are afraid of someone who wants more from them faster than they are willing to give (or have even considered giving). If a girl isn't COMFORTABLE with you, any interest she has in you will fade. Any hint that you might pressure her (to go out again, to go steady, whatever) is going to be a big red flag.Speaking from experience, if a guy makes it clear, either consciously or unconsciously, that he's interested in being serious with me, it is HUGELY off-putting unless I'm on the same page. I guess i'm having trouble understanding why something so simple is made out to be so complicated. Those that get it and don't make things complicated are usually to ones married for 50+ years. Those who complicate things seem to get divorces and things like this. It's very simple, if there is a mutual attraction and chemistry between a guy and a girl explore these things. Nothing is perfect but I don't see the need for a checklist write off the bat. I've been in long term relationship where there were periods of DISCOMFORT but we'd pass through it. And it seems as if when I say in plain english...I LIKE YOU...YOUR BEAUTIFUL...it's run too the hills. So stupid. I don't think girls are not comfortable with me...but definately something else is up. As for not flirting for the hell of it... YOU DO! You said that in the first paragraph. Flirting doesn't have to be sexual overtures. It's friendly, lighthearted, teasing exchanges with others. My flirting is casual at most...nothing over the top. Again read my previous response to imbewildered. There flirting, as I previously explained, gets a little excessive (and embarrassing sometime when done in public). But I think girls are just crazier by nature when it comes to flirting displays. Anyway, I wish you luck. And I totally agree that you are probably being too intense. If you're on a track somewhere (to a relationship, a second/third/fourth date, whatever) I think gals will probably notice it. Maybe they are being chicken, but if I get the vibe that someone fully intends to take me somewhere and I don't know if I want to go there, I'm going to bail. I want to feel like I have some say/control in the process... if I feel like the focus is on the next step, or where he wants to go in a relationship, I feel less comfortable and not so much like he's thinking of me so much as the idea of me. Does that make sense? Thanks for the good fortune but i'm not being too intense by any means. Funny you say you want some control 'cause i've often been labeled as intimidating (in a good context) and I often think girls want more of a pushover. Rather someone they can totally control and that is so not me which is evident by just holding a conversation with me. The whole following sentence about he's thinking of me blah blah totally makes sense. But I am thinking of her (not just the idea). I love to recognize individuals for whom they are. That's part of the fun. I do often think though that these girls date guys they can be more of a puppet master to. I have a strong personality I guess. I know that didn't come out as clearly as it could have... this stupid little text window drives me nuts. I'm just trying to offer some insight into what might be going on in a girl's mind. To sum up: -intensity can be very intimidating -feeling intimidated makes most people feel uncomfortable -if a girl feels uncomfortable, she won't trust you -if she doesn't trust you, she won't want to spend more time with you -slow down, relax! -letting a girl know your intentions too soon (before she's had a chance to make up her mind about you and think about what she might want from you) is more likely to be off-putting than a turn-on (unless you're in a girl who is just dying to have a relationship, with anyone, but you don't want that kind of girl) One possible thing to try: Err on the side of WAY safe and low-key... take a girl for coffee instead of dinner... don't invest too much time or money in one until she starts asking you out, too (an indication that she's interested). It may sound crazy, but if you're used to better restaurants/etc than she is, and you take her to dinner somewhere that is a lot nicer than she's used to, she might think you're pulling out all the stops right away. Like I said I don't have the pleasure of taking girls out for ice cream let alone 4 course meals. I don't think I'm too intense and I don't exactly know what you mean by this since intensity in an individual can be interpreted in several different ways. I've been told I'm low key and mild mannered and intimidating so this is confusing. Having crashed and burned on letting my feelings out too soon I don't do that. So your so correct on that. That was a lesson learned many years ago and I haven't done any sharing of feelings since (I had a crush on the girl). I think the only way I can not be intimidating and less flirtatious as everyone else is interpreting this is to become a mute whom walks around wearing a leaf bag and a mask. Other than 'dat people just have to get to know me (i do have great friends after all). Thanks for your time missdeathwish...i'm tired now. Sorry for the long one people.
missdeathwish Posted June 13, 2008 Posted June 13, 2008 You can't take a woman at her word when she says she's into you, you're hot, you're funny, etc... ESPECIALLY if you've directly asked her opinion. Girls HATE hurting people's feelings and will tell you that you look like Jude Law before they'll say your nose is funny. In short, women will do their best to make you feel good in some areas. If you really want an idea of why you're not making any connections, find a trusted friend or two (at least a couple of girls) and tell them that you want their honest opinions. (Or ask for honest advice.) If you give them the chance to compliment you as part of their feedback (ask which of your characteristics are the best and you should play up) you'll probably get more constructive feedback as well. Basically, tell them to give you some criticisms about how you carry yourself and approach girls. Ask the closest friends, or a good friend's girlfriend... it's one way to find out what might be going on. Give it a whirl?
Author browneyes22 Posted June 13, 2008 Author Posted June 13, 2008 You can't take a woman at her word when she says she's into you, you're hot, you're funny, etc... ESPECIALLY if you've directly asked her opinion. Girls HATE hurting people's feelings and will tell you that you look like Jude Law before they'll say your nose is funny. In short, women will do their best to make you feel good in some areas. If you really want an idea of why you're not making any connections, find a trusted friend or two (at least a couple of girls) and tell them that you want their honest opinions. (Or ask for honest advice.) If you give them the chance to compliment you as part of their feedback (ask which of your characteristics are the best and you should play up) you'll probably get more constructive feedback as well. Basically, tell them to give you some criticisms about how you carry yourself and approach girls. Ask the closest friends, or a good friend's girlfriend... it's one way to find out what might be going on. Give it a whirl? I don't think your understanding here. When I originally said in this post i've always gotten positive feedback on my looks, personality, how I carry myself etc I wasn't kidding. All my life i've gotten this from all sorts of people of all ages. Often this feedback has come from honest conversations and advice. I've had people not understand why it is girls won't go out on simple lunch dates with me. Now i'm not perfect 24/7/365 but in generally this positive feedback has been a constant in my life just like it is with other people that hold similar qualitites (ie girls i'm attracted too). Girls i'm attracted to aren't perfect either but overall there is an attractive quality about them. And...i'm just guessing here...over time people have acknowledged attractive qualities in me. Your a female and you like attractive qualities in man don't you? I mean this should at least be enough spend some hang time with the guy. Personally I take what girls verbally tell me with a grain of salt whether it's good or bad. Actions speak louder than words missdeathwish. If she tells me something positive only to act sketchy towards me then I cannot believe her words. If I hear something negative from here like a vague response "maybe as friends" or she won't even add me as a friend on facebook (a pretty benign gesture) then I don't believe her. Why...because nine time out of ten she's starring at me like i'm a steak or something to this effect. Thus her actions don't match her words. I always judge by actions. I don't know why I have to attract the confused ones. Most of the time I don't know if they are a good fit for me either but when we have some sort of obvious chemistry I want to explore. This is only natural. It's only when they slam the door shut in my face that's irritating. I'll say it again me personally i'm just waiting on the girls to decide what they want 'cause most i run into seem confused. I'm ready to rock and roll.
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