Confession: I made out with a married man last night....

June 9, 2008

But she should be mature enough to have thought about those consequences before even lip locking twice with this guy. I mean, comon, she didn't even do it behind clothed doors. Right outside, where co-workers could have easily found them. She found no error in her judgment because his wife's a witch. She simply wanted to get back at her. Teachers should have a maturity level high enough to be an appropriate role model for the children they teach. It comes with the territory - and if one can't handle that, it's not the right profession for them.

I agree with everything you said up until the bolded part, this has nothing to do with the children.

This was at a bar on her own time with a co-worker YES, who is married, YES, but it is JUST as much in his best interest to keep this quite since he has double to lose.

Again, I don't see WHAT this has to do with the children. This should not come back to bite her at work because he won't spill the beans on HIS own actions so it's a moot point. If anything if word gets out and things go mental for her at work she will lose her job but I don't see what this has to do with what she teaches the kids!?!?

spin it as you wish her teaching is one thing, her indiscretion that might cost her the job is another.

June 9, 2008

I agree with everything you said up until the bolded part, this has nothing to do with the children.

This was at a bar on her own time with a co-worker YES, who is married, YES, but it is JUST as much in his best interest to keep this quite since he has double to lose.

Again, I don't see WHAT this has to do with the children. This should not come back to bite her at work because he won't spill the beans on HIS own actions so it's a moot point. If anything if word gets out and things go mental for her at work she will lose her job but I don't see what this has to do with what she teaches the kids!?!?
spin it as you wish her teaching is one thing, her indiscretion that might cost her the job is another.

It's not as if they were at the bar one on one. Other co-workers were there with them. That could have easily seen something, and just not have said anything yet.

June 9, 2008

It's not as if they were at the bar one on one. Other co-workers were there with them. That could have easily seen something, and just not have said anything yet.

yabbut there were no kids in that bar... right?

so what she does on her own time has nothing to do with her professional life..

June 9, 2008

The funny thing is no one caught she said this

I see it as harmless as I am intending it not to go any further. If his wife were nice to me I wouldn't have done it.
If I hadn't met his wife ever, I probably would have done it. It's just one night. (I hope. tee hee).

It seems she was doing this regardless of the W. Looking for reasons to hate the W are just excuses to justify the action.

It's not as if they were at the bar one on one. Other co-workers were there with them. That could have easily seen something, and just not have said anything yet.

Again, as I already mentioned and let's say someone did see and they do snitch, what does this have to do with the price of tea in China? Meaning, how does this affect her teaching the kids?

June 9, 2008

I'd be concerned if she was my son's teacher.

Her bad judgement in this one area is probably not isolated. Also, I believe I stated that many times (read not ALWAYS) are the teachers who are disliked the best teachers. We've all had teachers who were tough and we didn't like them...but they were some of the teachers we learned the most from.

I don't know, to me what she did was not even the worst of it. And she did say she wouldn't do it again. It's the way she gloats about it and the fact that she says she has NO regrets.

That tells me she can justify pretty much anything in her mind.

"That 14 year old was coming on to ME. He encouraged it."

June 9, 2008

The funny thing is no one caught she said this

It seems she was doing this regardless of the W. Looking for reasons to hate the W are just excuses to justify the action.

Again, as I already mentioned and let's say someone did see and they do snitch, what does this have to do with the price of tea in China? Meaning, how does this affect her teaching the kids?

It's going to cause more drama at work, where the kids are. She's already got the wife being a bitch to her without this situation - can you imagine the reaction should the wife find out? Kids pick up on attitude changes, tension, ect ect. Why bring that into the work place?

June 9, 2008

People who play with fire eventually get burned.........

June 9, 2008

I'd be concerned if she was my son's teacher.

Her bad judgement in this one area is probably not isolated. Also, I believe I stated that many times (read not ALWAYS) are the teachers who are disliked the best teachers. We've all had teachers who were tough and we didn't like them...but they were some of the teachers we learned the most from.

I don't know, to me what she did was not even the worst of it. And she did say she wouldn't do it again. It's the way she gloats about it and the fact that she says she has NO regrets.

That tells me she can justify pretty much anything in her mind.

"That 14 year old was coming on to ME. He encouraged it."

The bolded is very true.

She believes that what she did is okay because the wife is a bitch. There were teachers at my school that implemented there "outside of school" morals at school. So who's to say at school OP doesn't do the "two wrongs make a right".

June 9, 2008

Why ? Lots of women act pure and decent. When behind closed doors they've been drilled more times than an oil well. And had more than their fair share of different drill bits.

There are women around who will blow a guy because he bought her dinner. Why should a kiss be any sort of big deal ?

I come off as pure and innocent. I'm not. Have a babyish face and look extremely young for my age. No one could guess what I'm like in the bedroom, unless I have pursued that with the person. However, if a guy is married (or with a g/f) there isn't even a debate, he is just off limits. This isn't about sexuality as much as honoring a marriage, a couple. And if a guy is unhappy with his marriage, he can divorce. I'm not fond of one of my crush's wife. He is much too honorable, but if he came on to me, I would remind him how much he loved his wife, and wouldn't make a complicated situation more coplicated.

June 9, 2008

It's going to cause more drama at work, where the kids are. She's already got the wife being a bitch to her without this situation - can you imagine the reaction should the wife find out? Kids pick up on attitude changes, tension, ect ect. Why bring that into the work place?

Yeah but you are describing an extreme situation of something that possibly MIGHT happen or it NEVER will happen, this same teacher could be going out with a man in her personal life and she dumps him. The guy she dumps shows up at her school and shoots her infront of the whole class in a crime of passion. So then she is a bad teacher because she left her partner?

C'mon hypothetically speaking a lot can be brought into the classroom because of what she does outside of it and affect the children. Gees there is a LOT that goes on in teacher's personal lives right now that could affect their chidlren if they knew but they will NEVER find out about their teacher's double life so....

I knew gay teachers that spent their weekends high as a kite at gay clubs picking up random men. I knew another guy who had aids, he was apointed vice principal of the school. "Ooooooooh if parents only knew....."

Should be tell men not to be gay if they are going to teach children, we all know how impressionable young people are and all.....gimme a break that's silly!

Teachers are people before they are teachers, as you are a person before you are your professional title.

June 9, 2008

I don't know, to me what she did was not even the worst of it. And she did say she wouldn't do it again. It's the way she gloats about it and the fact that she says she has NO regrets.

I agree with that. It tells me she is emotionally immature, does that make her an incompetent teacher not so much. Also keep in mind it could be a defense mechanism, her gloating might just be her way of putting up her defenses before people attack her for what she knows she did and is wrong.

June 9, 2008

Yeah but you are describing an extreme situation of something that possibly MIGHT happen or it NEVER will happen, this same teacher could be going out with a man in her personal life and she dumps him. The guy she dumps shows up at her school and shoots her infront of the whole class in a crime of passion. So then she is a bad teacher because she left her partner?
C'mon hypothetically speaking a lot can be brought into the classroom because of what she does outside of it and affect the children. Gees there is a LOT that goes on in teacher's personal lives right now that could affect their chidlren if they knew but they will NEVER find out about their teacher's double life so....

I knew gay teachers that spent their weekends high as a kite at gay clubs picking up random men. I knew another guy who had aids, he was apointed vice principal of the school. "Ooooooooh if parents only knew....."
Should be tell men not to be gay if they are going to teach children, we all know how impressionable young people are and all.....gimme a break that's silly!

Teachers are people before they are teachers, as you are a person before you are your professional title.

Doing something you know is going to cause drama or a good chance that will cause drama is completely different.

At my high school there was an art teacher with a drinking problem. He came to school drunk and took a scissors to a girl's hair. Her hair was down to her butt, he grabbed it, chopped it off above her shoulders. Personal lives of teachers can affect things that happen at school.

June 9, 2008

I agree with that. It tells me she is emotionally immature, does that make her an incompetent teacher not so much. Also keep in mind it could be a defense mechanism, her gloating might just be her way of putting up her defenses before people attack her for what she knows she did and is wrong.

A defense mechanism? I don't know about that. I mean if she was so afraid of being attacked, why even post about this? What's the purpose? If she really thinks it was so wrong why justify it by bringing up what a witch the wife is?

I don't know. This whole thing reeks of bigger issues. And I stand by what I said that in one form or another, this WILL come back to bite her. Not necessarily this particular incident but just the whole attitude associated with it. There's no way in the world that that attitude isn't manifested in other ways. No way.

June 9, 2008

A defense mechanism? I don't know about that. I mean if she was so afraid of being attacked, why even post about this? What's the purpose? If she really thinks it was so wrong why justify it by bringing up what a witch the wife is?

I don't know. This whole thing reeks of bigger issues. And I stand by what I said that in one form or another, this WILL come back to bite her. Not necessarily this particular incident but just the whole attitude associated with it. There's no way in the world that that attitude isn't manifested in other ways. No way.

No kidding....

It's like a man who's cheap. Not only will he be fiscally cheap, he will also be cheap with his time and emotions.

June 9, 2008

No kidding....

It's like a man who's cheap. Not only will he be fiscally cheap, he will also be cheap with his time and emotions.

Great analogy. Yes, it's just like that. I mean come on. That kind of justification/attitude about this incident undoubtedly spills over into other areas of the OP's life....yes, including choices she makes as a teacher.

June 9, 2008

If an architect made out with another architect who happens to be married at a bar parking lot with coworkers inside - this does not make him or her a bad architect.

LOL! Yes it does!

I can't believe how immature you are.

June 9, 2008

If an architect made out with another architect who happens to be married at a bar parking lot with coworkers inside - this does not make him or her a bad architect.

May not make him/her a bad person but it definately makes their reputation very questionable. I mean if I was going to hire an architect and I knew that the person was known to sleep around with married folks, I wouldn't be hiring him/her!

June 9, 2008

My gawd... most people cheat these days.. so my bet is that we are ALL dealing with a cheater somehow.. (teacher, lawyer, doctor, etc.. etc... etc... etc....)

I can't believe what I read here..

June 9, 2008

May not make him/her a bad person but it definately makes their reputation very questionable. I mean if I was going to hire an architect and I knew that the person was known to sleep around with married folks, I wouldn't be hiring him/her!

You know it happens right, don't you know ? : o

Married, professional men also frequent prostitutes, did you know that ? I know men who habitually cheat on their wives, their wives know it, but they turn the other cheek. Its all one giant hoax. Fresh 18 year old meat is always in supply.

Refuse to accept it and probably post on some internet forum about decency. This is a minor issue, just a kiss, what is a kiss anyway ? Just a kiss.

June 9, 2008

Yes, it's just like that. I mean come on. That kind of justification/attitude about this incident undoubtedly spills over into other areas of the OP's life....yes, including choices she makes as a teacher.

for argument's sake since I don't even think this thread is real, given how imotionally immature she seems in her comments I can't imagine a school would not have caught to her ways already if she is as immature as she comes across you are right it would have shown in other aspecst already but she seems to still have her job so.....I think that it doesn't affect her abilities to teach she seems to be able to seperate the two otherwise she would not be teaching.

Sorry, modern women are sluts.

Good, so how does it feel to be dealing with the exact same thing, actually no not the same thing because women are not AS bad, as what women have had to deal with for centuries and still do in modern times? We have dealt with "sluts" all our lives being women, now men finally get a taste of their own meidicine....life's a biiiiitch ain't it?

June 9, 2008

for argument's sake since I don't even think this thread is real

Glad that I'm not the only one who thinks this..

Hopefully the OP will come back and give an update.

June 9, 2008

for argument's sake since I don't even think this thread is real, given how imotionally immature she seems in her comments I can't imagine a school would not have caught to her ways already if she is as immature as she comes across you are right it would have shown in other aspecst already but she seems to still have her job so.....I think that it doesn't affect her abilities to teach she seems to be able to seperate the two otherwise she would not be teaching.

Good, so how does it feel to be dealing with the exact same thing, actually no not the same thing because women are not AS bad, as what women have had to deal with for centuries and still do in modern times? We have dealt with "sluts" all our lives being women, now men finally get a taste of their own meidicine....life's a biiiiitch ain't it?

Oh they've caught on. Can you say...job hopping?

June 9, 2008

Teachers are, by their very nature, role models for the children and teenagers they teach. How they conduct themselves inside, and outside, of the classroom is highly relevant.

I was told this, almost exactly when I interviewed for my first teaching job. Maybe it is just the region I am in, but if you were to come to my state and start messing with a married coworker and it got out, at best you'd be transferred to another school, but more likely you would be fired.

What you think about your personal life and your entitlement to it doesn't mean squat when you have angry parents approaching the school board about what they see as immoral behavior. If word gets out among the students, you are as good as hosed. Everyone will know then.

Don't be surprised if things don't bode well if you are found out.

June 9, 2008

No, no job hopping. Nothing else is going down. I already stated it wasn't happening again. It's the first time I kissed a married guy, no biggie people. Me kissing a guy at a bar has nothing to do with my job. I'm pretty discreet and so is this guy. He did give me a look.

If my employer had a problem with me, I wouldn't have gotten rave reviews. LOL, that made me laugh.

June 9, 2008

If you include lunch and recess its actually closer to 30 hours and effectively less. The exposure to each child is also limited based on the classes it attends. The exposure you talk about is greatly exaggerated so the reasoning no longer applies.

A child may very well spend more time being influenced by a TV program than by a particular teacher, who, for the most part is distracting a child from their own character by the content being taught

I have very high character and I actually teach a class related to this. Kissing a guy in a bar has nothing to do with me being a teacher.

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