Gwyneth Posted June 4, 2008 Posted June 4, 2008 Women (and men too I suppose) who are victims of a cheating spouse, "obviously" cannot rule the country (or anything for that matter) if the "BS" can't even run her (or his) house. How do you BSs feel about this? I'm not a BS, but I was the OW, and I'm quite outraged that a presumptive Presidential nominee's wife would say such a disasterous thing. What does one thing (broken home) have to do with another? Just wondering if maybe I'm taking this remark too harsh, but I am quite outraged she would say such a thing. My mother is a victim of a cheating husband yet she does very well in the work force (despite being "incapable" of running a household because, you know, it's "her" fault her husband had an affair...). I didn't agree with that psyochologist whatshername a few months ago about this topic, and I certainly do not agree with Michelle Obama about this either. You cannot compare fruits to meat.
Citizen Erased Posted June 5, 2008 Posted June 5, 2008 What a b!tch! When was she born? The 1800's? My God. I'm not a BS, but even I find that offensive.
Author Gwyneth Posted June 5, 2008 Author Posted June 5, 2008 I guess under her standards, it's "okay" for an unfaithful man to be President? I mean, how many President's "haven't" cheated on their wives? Someday, her words will come back to haunt her. Of course there are the rumors Obama has cheated, but I don't believe them--or I just don't care enough.
angie2443 Posted June 6, 2008 Posted June 6, 2008 Women (and men too I suppose) who are victims of a cheating spouse, "obviously" cannot rule the country (or anything for that matter) if the "BS" can't even run her (or his) house. How do you BSs feel about this? I'm not a BS, but I was the OW, and I'm quite outraged that a presumptive Presidential nominee's wife would say such a disasterous thing. What does one thing (broken home) have to do with another? Just wondering if maybe I'm taking this remark too harsh, but I am quite outraged she would say such a thing. My mother is a victim of a cheating husband yet she does very well in the work force (despite being "incapable" of running a household because, you know, it's "her" fault her husband had an affair...). I didn't agree with that psyochologist whatshername a few months ago about this topic, and I certainly do not agree with Michelle Obama about this either. You cannot compare fruits to meat. It was a nasty, catty thing to say and she probably wouldn't have said this if Clinton hadn't run against her husband. At the same time, I guess all's fair in war and in politics (actually it's love but I think politics fits). I don't expect anything but mudslinging from either side in a political race. Actually, I might have agreed with this statement months ago. However, having seen Clinton on the trail, standing up to a lot of negative talk, and keep on moving, I know she could have run the country. I don't know if she'd have been better or worse than Obama or McCain, but I know she'd be intelligent and strong to do the job. Rather I agree with a candidate or not, I admire anyone who has the drive to do what these people do.
OldEurope Posted June 6, 2008 Posted June 6, 2008 I am eagerly waiting for this whole Obama-mania to fizzle out already. Ridiculous comments like this (if true) give me hope that is around the corner...
twice_shy Posted June 6, 2008 Posted June 6, 2008 Women (and men too I suppose) who are victims of a cheating spouse, "obviously" cannot rule the country (or anything for that matter) if the "BS" can't even run her (or his) house. How do you BSs feel about this? I sure wouldn't want a petty tramp like MO who makes comments like that about someone who was betrayed as a first lady. I bet you anything old BO has slid his sausage in another woman other than his wife. I'm not a BS, but I was the OW, and I'm quite outraged that a presumptive Presidential nominee's wife would say such a disasterous thing. What does one thing (broken home) have to do with another? Gwyneth, for once I am in total agreement with you. I wonder what old BO thinks about what his wife said. I wonder did he: a) smile and think, "right on!" or b) cover his eyes, lower his head, and think to himself, "oh, that wasn't good" Just wondering if maybe I'm taking this remark too harsh, but I am quite outraged she would say such a thing. Basically she is saying that if you have been cheated on, you are worthless and incompetent. Actually, I think she is just a moron and thought that her little stab was witty. I didn't agree with that psyochologist whatshername a few months ago about this topic, and I certainly do not agree with Michelle Obama about this either. You cannot compare fruits to meat. And pouring perfume on a pig doesn't help....1st lady candidate or not.
Woggle Posted June 6, 2008 Posted June 6, 2008 I was a betrayed spouse once and this comment does not sway my vote. Hillary supporters are the type of women that high five each other as they cheat on their husbands and laugh about they are playing them so which is worse?
Citizen Erased Posted June 7, 2008 Posted June 7, 2008 I was a betrayed spouse once and this comment does not sway my vote. Hillary supporters are the type of women that high five each other as they cheat on their husbands and laugh about they are playing them so which is worse? What on Earth are you talking about? Sheesh.
nittygritty Posted June 7, 2008 Posted June 7, 2008 Does Bill and Hillary's arrangement really represent the kind of marriage that anyone would want to have?
SoulSearch_CO Posted June 7, 2008 Posted June 7, 2008 Women (and men too I suppose) who are victims of a cheating spouse, "obviously" cannot rule the country (or anything for that matter) if the "BS" can't even run her (or his) house. How do you BSs feel about this? I'm not a BS, but I was the OW, and I'm quite outraged that a presumptive Presidential nominee's wife would say such a disasterous thing. What does one thing (broken home) have to do with another? Just wondering if maybe I'm taking this remark too harsh, but I am quite outraged she would say such a thing. My mother is a victim of a cheating husband yet she does very well in the work force (despite being "incapable" of running a household because, you know, it's "her" fault her husband had an affair...). I didn't agree with that psyochologist whatshername a few months ago about this topic, and I certainly do not agree with Michelle Obama about this either. You cannot compare fruits to meat. Wow. That's incredibly judgmental. First off, she's blaming the BS for the affair because the BS can't run his/her household? HELLO? That's f'd up. I did a lot for this dang marriage...made all the "right" moves I was supposed to. He still went and cheated. The moment I found out about it, I called him screaming at him on the phone, begging him to tell me what I did wrong. I think it's such a common misconception in society that does not understand infidelity that the BS did something wrong to cause the affair. What a load of crap. STBXH insisted at the time and continues to insist that it was not my fault. And I agree with him. I think Michelle Obama enjoys opening her mouth and saying stupid stuff. I actually like her husband on a few issues...but he needs to keep his bitch in line.
Woggle Posted June 7, 2008 Posted June 7, 2008 What on Earth are you talking about? Sheesh. Hillary gets the misandrist vote hands down. If you look on here and other forums her hardcore supporters tend to be manhaters. Also a woman on here says that Obama needs to keep his bitch in line but Obama supporters are the sexists? Michelle is an independent person and has the right to speak her mind and express her own views.
armywife915 Posted June 7, 2008 Posted June 7, 2008 I really don't think it's any of our business if the president cheats or the president's spouse cheats. If they cheat, that makes them a bad husband/wife/person. Not a bad president. For her to say that is very shallow and how do we know she hasn't cheated on him?
nittygritty Posted June 7, 2008 Posted June 7, 2008 Hillary chose to do nothing about her serial cheating husband, that's the part that I consider running her household dysfunctionally. What kind of a role model was Hillary for her daughter by teaching her to tolerate such disrespectful treatment from her spouse? The Clinton's facade of a marriage doesn't present the kind of relationship that anybody should stay in. I view Michelle Obama's comments as having to do more with the fact that Hillary chooses to stay in an unhealthy, emotionally abusive marriage rather than divorcing her serial cheating husband and IMO Hillary only does it because of her political aspirations which seems kind of nuts, if you ask me.
OpenBook Posted June 7, 2008 Posted June 7, 2008 Hillary chose to do nothing about her serial cheating husband, that's the part that I consider running her household dysfunctionally. What kind of a role model was Hillary for her daughter by teaching her to tolerate such disrespectful treatment from her spouse? The Clinton's facade of a marriage doesn't present the kind of relationship that anybody should stay in. I view Michelle Obama's comments as having to do more with the fact that Hillary chooses to stay in an unhealthy, emotionally abusive marriage rather than divorcing her serial cheating husband and IMO Hillary only does it because of her political aspirations which seems kind of nuts, if you ask me. And I know of very few marriages that AREN'T facades. People stay married to each other for many reasons... but usually not for love. It's nice to think of marriage in terms of love and romance as an ideal - but the reality is starkly different. So personally, I'm not inclined to judge or sneer at Hillary for staying married to Bill. And I think Chelsea turned out pretty darn good.
tinktronik Posted June 7, 2008 Posted June 7, 2008 It was just a snippy , snide , attacking comment. Give a person ammunition, in politics, and of course they will use it . Sad really, adults behaving badly, again.
AllThatIAm Posted June 7, 2008 Posted June 7, 2008 I am a bit wary of the parts of speeches the media focuses on. Did Mrs. Obama call the Clintons by name? Was there mention of betrayed spouses or cheating? I remember that part of her speech being about them adjusting schedules around their children so that there was always a parent with them. From where I stand she was taken out of context cos it made a sensational story. It has nothing to do with betrayed spouses or cheating.
SoulSearch_CO Posted June 7, 2008 Posted June 7, 2008 Hillary gets the misandrist vote hands down. If you look on here and other forums her hardcore supporters tend to be manhaters. Also a woman on here says that Obama needs to keep his bitch in line but Obama supporters are the sexists? Michelle is an independent person and has the right to speak her mind and express her own views. Ooookay...I never said anybody was sexist. It was a joke. And no - I don't consider myself sexist, either. I don't hate men or women. But whatev. I will say that I intensely dislike Hilary, though. Happy? And I did say in my post that I actually like Obama. I disagree with a couple of his stances, but if I had to choose the least of evils, he would be it.
Woggle Posted June 7, 2008 Posted June 7, 2008 I understand what you are saying but it seems like it is perfectly okay for people to call Michelle a skank and many other names but let Obama harmlessly call a reporter sweety and these same people want to hang him by his balls.
burning 4 revenge Posted June 7, 2008 Posted June 7, 2008 I understand what you are saying but it seems like it is perfectly okay for people to call Michelle a skank and many other names but let Obama harmlessly call a reporter sweety and these same people want to hang him by his balls. Who gives a fu*k? The bottom line is do you want our kids in Iraq (and possiblyy Iran) or not? Everything else is bullsh*t
tinktronik Posted June 7, 2008 Posted June 7, 2008 Who gives a fu*k? The bottom line is do you want our kids in Iraq (and possiblyy Iran) or not? Everything else is bullsh*t Well said, B4.
michelangelo Posted June 7, 2008 Posted June 7, 2008 who cares what mrs. obama says. I want Mr obama to be the next president. why? he can get us back on track, out of iraq, concentrating on the working people of this country of all colors and faiths. I'm so SICK of the corrupt way of things that bushco has foisted on us and the world. Their kind of america has to go.
SoulSearch_CO Posted June 8, 2008 Posted June 8, 2008 *sigh* I guess the humor was lost. If you actually knew me, you would understand the nature of the statement. This being the internet, tone and intent is very easily lost. All be told, I do not think she is a bitch. It is a flippant way of saying "his woman." And no, I don't honestly think he should have to keep her under control - she has rights to free speech just as everybody else does. It was a JOKE. People can call me whatever they want. I don't really care. Seriously. I've heard far worse things than "bitch." Things that I definitely did not deserve, but that's life. I think having spent time with some of my STBXH's military buddies and also spending A LOT of time in a profession that is male-dominated, I'm used to the crass humor and don't see the big deal. I have a hard time understanding the other viewpoint sometimes. Thanks for the reminder.
Star Gazer Posted June 8, 2008 Posted June 8, 2008 Who gives a fu*k? The bottom line is do you want our kids in Iraq (and possiblyy Iran) or not? Everything else is bullsh*t Agreed. He's the only candidate who's been against the war from the very beginning.
openingup Posted June 8, 2008 Posted June 8, 2008 Hillary chose to do nothing about her serial cheating husband, that's the part that I consider running her household dysfunctionally. What kind of a role model was Hillary for her daughter by teaching her to tolerate such disrespectful treatment from her spouse? The Clinton's facade of a marriage doesn't present the kind of relationship that anybody should stay in. I view Michelle Obama's comments as having to do more with the fact that Hillary chooses to stay in an unhealthy, emotionally abusive marriage rather than divorcing her serial cheating husband and IMO Hillary only does it because of her political aspirations which seems kind of nuts, if you ask me. WORD. First let me say, I don't hate Hillary, and I'm enormously proud that women are seen as viable presidential candidates thanks in large part to her efforts, but you have to admit, she has been on the receiving end of a hell of lot of public humiliation to get where she is. Can you imagine how little she respected herself after finding out about BC's scores of affairs and one-night stands and sticking around anyway? I feel for her on the loss of pride and self-esteem, but it was her decision to stay, even when seeing him must have made her feel both dirty and enraged. That kind of raw ambition skeeves me out . . .
OldEurope Posted June 8, 2008 Posted June 8, 2008 who cares what mrs. obama says. I want Mr obama to be the next president. why? he can get us back on track, out of iraq, concentrating on the working people of this country of all colors and faiths. I'm so SICK of the corrupt way of things that bushco has foisted on us and the world. Their kind of america has to go. I agree to a point. I just don't think he is going to get us out of Iraq at all. The larger powers that be do not want it. I am afraid he is going to be compelled to be all things to everyone, which will then be spun under his glossy rhetoric. Sorry, I am skeptical As for Michelle O's comments, in general, I believe it is better that "the wife" keep a low profile for the course of the campaign. But a comment here and there is to be expected. If her reference was to Hilary staying around with the atrocious Bill, I agree that Hillary's political ambitions were largely fueled by a sense of rage brought about by the humiliation of Bill's serial cheating. That she stuck by this slick piece of work and then made political profit out of it is what I found very off-putting. OE
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