Trialbyfire Posted June 4, 2008 Posted June 4, 2008 Fine No it doens't my mother was not submissive and I have a terrible relationship with my parents, infact, nowdays it is almost non existent as we hardly ever talk. Do you have any close friendships?
Author MaxManwell Posted June 4, 2008 Author Posted June 4, 2008 Do you have any close friendships? yes i do have friends
Trialbyfire Posted June 4, 2008 Posted June 4, 2008 yes i do have friends Close friends who have been around for years?
Author MaxManwell Posted June 4, 2008 Author Posted June 4, 2008 Close friends who have been around for years? Not the really longest friendship is five years I tend to go through different groups of friends pretty quickly. I've had lots of small groups of different friends.
Trialbyfire Posted June 4, 2008 Posted June 4, 2008 Think about your responses to me. Your relationship with your parents isn't going well and hasn't been the greatest. You tend to flip friends. You're having difficulty cementing a relationship with anyone and rely on paid escorts for sex. Do you see what I'm seeing?
torranceshipman Posted June 4, 2008 Posted June 4, 2008 Wow, you sound so bitter....your negativity and bitterness would immediately make me run in the other direction if I met you, even if you were handsome, successful, clever etc...I can't stand negative people - they suck the life out of you. You generally sound like you just want to be vindictive and nasty to some people bycoming on here and saying this stuff, so clearly you're not a happy person! Sure there are bad women, but there are bad men too - fact of life - it isn't related to gender. I take every single person I meet as an individual - man or woman, and I don't make generalisations...I love meeting nice people and its always a nice surprise when I do! Sounds like you've closed the door on meeting a LOT of nice people through your own misery, bitterness and 'poor me' attitude. A lot of nice women will feel uncomfortable around you too, if you display this attitude (its kinda weird, like you have a big problem with women and many women do NOT want to be anywhere near a man like that!!-not the confident healthy ones anyway).
t_veron Posted June 4, 2008 Posted June 4, 2008 This is a no win situation. Everyone has valid points but no one ever wants to see the other side of the fence. I think both sides have issues. Women are too demanding and have nutty expectations because they've had years of repression to catch up with. Men are too insensitive that women are not hired help and should be appreciated. However you could switch that around and say women don't appreciate men who bring home the bacon and die younger because of the stress while men have too many expectations about what a wife is supposed to be doing. People just don't appreciate each other and don't give enough. This generation has some real issues because of the sense of entitlement and lack of responsibility.
Gawdess Posted June 5, 2008 Posted June 5, 2008 I love how in these discussions most of the men come with facts and the truth while the women throw around nasty insults like how the OP has to pay to get laid. Uhhh, look at the topic of the thread. He has an illogical, attacking, ignorant, generalizing argument against women in the opening thread.
Author MaxManwell Posted June 6, 2008 Author Posted June 6, 2008 Think about your responses to me. Your relationship with your parents isn't going well and hasn't been the greatest. You tend to flip friends. You're having difficulty cementing a relationship with anyone and rely on paid escorts for sex. Do you see what I'm seeing? Yeah I used to think like that I don't know really whatever I did nothing ever seemed to work out. Relationship wise you can only put everything you have into something and get rejected so many times before you start to lose it. I know we're supposed to be persistent but everyone has their breaking point.
White Flower Posted June 6, 2008 Posted June 6, 2008 There are a handful of decent ones in a sea of selfish feminists ? Does anyone (male) truly believe otherwise ? Women are all about take and take they have no idea how to nor do they desire to treat a man right. Well, after 20 plus years of marriage I'm finally leaving because the opposite is true. I'm not saying all mean are like you say women are, but my H is. I'm happy to report that I don't think all men are like him.;)Sorry, I just realized you're looking for male perspectives;)
Author MaxManwell Posted June 6, 2008 Author Posted June 6, 2008 ha well I posted most of this during what was a pretty terrible week and now its all on the internet for good ! haha not much can be said, of course there are good women I'm a little more moderate now but ,damn, I still get those vindictive thoughts when I think of women When trying to date a really nice 22 year old girl (I'm 24) and she starts a relationship with a 34 year old professional the rage just got the better of me.
Trialbyfire Posted June 6, 2008 Posted June 6, 2008 Yeah I used to think like that I don't know really whatever I did nothing ever seemed to work out. Relationship wise you can only put everything you have into something and get rejected so many times before you start to lose it. I know we're supposed to be persistent but everyone has their breaking point. Everyone is in control of themselves, no more, no less. How does it start, progress and finish?
cherrymoon Posted June 6, 2008 Posted June 6, 2008 A glimmer of hope. Maxmanwell, You just showed a glimmer of being a nice guy. You do need to deal with your anger. You got rejected and therefore posted for a week and you were nothing but rude and annoying. i wanted to stop reading and post "leave this guy to the prostitutes as why inflict him on a female who isn't being paid to love him. A bit of my story: I feel in love with a guy he is the most amazing man I know, he is the most beautiful man i know, he makes me laugh till I think i will burst. The physical is out of this world. I adore him. I treat him like a king and we had 4 kids together. We were perfect except for one thing, his anger which resulted in his selfish immature behaviour. Where did this anger stem from? his mother. I was giving and giving and he was crushing my spirit. As his mothers behaviour escualated as I became more successful he became more useless and more bitter, his anger became worse the verbal abuse became so offensive I would have prefered to be beaten. bruises heal. My amazing man became a cruel boy who fixated on himself. He adored me I always knew this but he also made me feel like I wasn't good enough. He lost me after 15 years of me trying (he still says in 15 years he could not fault me on one thing he was blissfully happy with me and didn't realise just how badly he was treating me) It wasn't all that bad we had some great times but when it was bad it was bad beyond belief. He and I are rebuilding our friendship but who knows if we will ever walk hand in hand again. Mm he is in therapy and working hard to resolve his issues and anger. Please don't let this become you. Your anger towards rejection is too over the top, your use of prostitutes does not define you as a sexual being. They are paid to give you what you need they wash you off after and discuss you with their friends, you maybe laught at (this is the worst rejection) or they may think you are great who knows? Go seek out decent people learn to communicate learn to give a little at a time and remember rejection is not a reflection on you it is that people cannot give you what you need so they decide not to be with you. Each and everyone of us can be a better person, do some work on yourself learn to see the world in colour and enjoy the sunshine and laughter. Remember everyone is worth loving and to be loved, for god sake even Hitler had a girlfriend I wish you happiness not bitterness
Dark-N-Romantic Posted June 6, 2008 Posted June 6, 2008 Love, decency, right, wrong, beauty, and all these words are as universal and individualistic as the person comes to make of them. I might consider a decent woman to be one who does not smoke, curse, fornicate, who is willing to do what she can to please her man (which does not mean she has to be a doormat for those who may question my intent behind my words). She is a lady when she has to be a lady, a mother when she has to be a mother, a pornstar when she has to be a pornstar. These are just a few things I consider a decent woman portrays. Another person might see a decent woman as one who is an independent being who will never willingly submit herself to anyone. Some who can out curse a sailor and drink a Marine under the table. Someone who is out there for the whole world to see. And who probably could scare Freddy Kruger with her attitude and antics. Each one of us has to take the time to know first and foremost who we are. What are our views about life and this world we live in. And then determine how should someone fit within those views, the expectations we have, and our own willingness to never get some of those things that we know our love will NEVER live up to. So, are there any decent women out there? It all depends on what you see, what you are looking for, what you define as decent, and your willingness to take the good along with the bad that comes with being an individual. DNR
icess64 Posted June 6, 2008 Posted June 6, 2008 I love how in these discussions most of the men come with facts and the truth while the women throw around nasty insults like how the OP has to pay to get laid. How is him paying a prostitute a nasty insult? He said he's done so, therefore it's a fact, no? And if women are the bain of your existence and have no redeeming qualities maybe you should switch teams.
stillafool Posted June 6, 2008 Posted June 6, 2008 There are a handful of decent ones in a sea of selfish feminists ? Does anyone (male) truly believe otherwise ? Women are all about take and take they have no idea how to nor do they desire to treat a man right. Well since you feel that way don't go out with anymore of them. Have you considered dating men?
carhill Posted June 6, 2008 Posted June 6, 2008 IMO, the OP is young, and way too young to be sincerely making the sweeping generalizations offered up here. I think if he gets some more life experience under his belt, he'll find a new perspective To answer the title of the OP, yes, I do believe most women are decent. Their decency does not revolve around whether or not they find me attractive. Does that make sense?
Untouchable_Fire Posted June 6, 2008 Posted June 6, 2008 I know we're supposed to be persistent but everyone has their breaking point. 1. It's always a numbers game 2. If your approach isn't working, try changing something. 3. What kind of women are you going after? not much can be said, of course there are good women I'm a little more moderate now but ,damn, I still get those vindictive thoughts when I think of women When trying to date a really nice 22 year old girl (I'm 24) and she starts a relationship with a 34 year old professional the rage just got the better of me. Angry thoughts against women in general... that's not really a good sign. Let me ask you this. Why do you think some men do very well and others like yourself can't seem to get a relationship going? Do you think you stack up well against other guys?
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