MaxManwell Posted June 3, 2008 Posted June 3, 2008 There are a handful of decent ones in a sea of selfish feminists ? Does anyone (male) truly believe otherwise ? Women are all about take and take they have no idea how to nor do they desire to treat a man right.
Lovelybird Posted June 3, 2008 Posted June 3, 2008 Most women desire to treat a man right when the man treat her right. when the man treat her right, she is more than happy to treat the man right what do you mean 'treat man right'? cook? clean?........or something else
Woggle Posted June 3, 2008 Posted June 3, 2008 Most women are rotten to the core but there are some good ones out there. I don't think most of them are even capable of loving a man.
Lovelybird Posted June 3, 2008 Posted June 3, 2008 Most women are rotten to the core but there are some good ones out there. I don't think most of them are even capable of loving a man. same as many men aren't capable of loving a woman they like boss (or flirt) around women than love them, right Maxman? but you are different, woggle
Taramere Posted June 3, 2008 Posted June 3, 2008 There are a handful of decent ones in a sea of selfish feminists ? Does anyone (male) truly believe otherwise ? Women are all about take and take they have no idea how to nor do they desire to treat a man right. Blaming your negativity on women excuses you from tackling the real problem, which is within you. I don't doubt that if you're unhappy and negative, you probably get a bad response from women. Self fulfilling prophecy. People naturally gravitate towards the light and the sun. Some people will put aside time to help you if you're having problems with depression, but the "it's other people's fault" attitude will make them less inclined to do so. Women aren't saints, just as men aren't....and they'll only tolerate so much negativity and bad attitude before saying "screw this...life's too short." You're mentioning that women are selfish, but a great deal of the effort that goes into helping and supporting people in your situation does in fact come from women. A lot of people - men and women - put significant efforts into helping people in situations where they won't receive any personal gain from it. Stop thinking about yourself for a second or two, look around and you'll see it. Think hard about what you've done for anybody lately....beyond spreading your negativity, selfishness and bitterness, and projecting these things onto others. I don't think women are your problem. I think this is more likely to be - and it's something you can actually take steps to fix.
Author MaxManwell Posted June 3, 2008 Author Posted June 3, 2008 Typical woman response. DOn't try and fix the problem, its all about emotions,it is all within you. LAME
Woggle Posted June 3, 2008 Posted June 3, 2008 The ironic thing is that finding a woman that is actually worth it has made me see most other women for what they really are because now I can compare and contrast. I feel like I am having Filet Mignon while other men are feasting on rotten entrails.
Author MaxManwell Posted June 3, 2008 Author Posted June 3, 2008 Hey, I am good guy, I am allowed to have opinions and my own ambitions. I do things for people all the time I act nice to most people including women, but WOMEN only appreciate for selfish reasons. Girls you think it is all fine and dandy but you should hear what we men really think of you behind closed doors. We'll say whatever to your face to shut you up because we know that if we don't we'll get ganged upon by every other woman. You should know your behaviour and the way you treat us men is really, really poor. We give you everything, equality our dedication, we provide for you, protect you and treat you special but you only want to be equal when it suits you. Well most men know of the double standards we just don't say anything about it to you. Thats why guys like me make these apparently sadistic and sexist statements when really all I am doing is being truthful for once. A lot of women really need to start treating men with more respect because we do all the hard work, solve all the hardest problems and break our backs for you ladies. There are a lot of great women out there but there are a lot more girls who are just horrible and are more like boys than what a woman should be. Yes a girl should stay home; cook,clean and look after babies but that doesn't mean if she wants to she can't go out and become a doctor or lawyer. I am all for equal opportunity but not social engineering. A woman should be a loving caring and submissive creature that is dedicated to her family and holding the unit together.
Taramere Posted June 3, 2008 Posted June 3, 2008 Typical woman response. DOn't try and fix the problem, its all about emotions,it is all within you. LAME Well carry on being depressed and miserable then. It's not really any one else's concern.
xpaperxcutx Posted June 3, 2008 Posted June 3, 2008 Hey, I am good guy, I am allowed to have opinions and my own ambitions. I do things for people all the time I act nice to most people including women, but WOMEN only appreciate for selfish reasons. Girls you think it is all fine and dandy but you should hear what we men really think of you behind closed doors. We'll say whatever to your face to shut you up because we know that if we don't we'll get ganged upon by every other woman. You should know your behaviour and the way you treat us men is really, really poor. We give you everything, equality our dedication, we provide for you, protect you and treat you special but you only want to be equal when it suits you. Well most men know of the double standards we just don't say anything about it to you. Thats why guys like me make these apparently sadistic and sexist statements when really all I am doing is being truthful for once. A lot of women really need to start treating men with more respect because we do all the hard work, solve all the hardest problems and break our backs for you ladies. There are a lot of great women out there but there are a lot more girls who are just horrible and are more like boys than what a woman should be. Yes a girl should stay home; cook,clean and look after babies but that doesn't mean if she wants to she can't go out and become a doctor or lawyer. I am all for equal opportunity but not social engineering. A woman should be a loving caring and submissive creature that is dedicated to her family and holding the unit together. I find that highly offensive. I'm not gonna start an argument, but if you truly feel like there are no good women out there, then you should stop falling for those deceitful women you speak of.
Woggle Posted June 3, 2008 Posted June 3, 2008 Most men don't speak their mind but I do and in mixed company. I don't care if I get called sexist. I have been called that plenty of times and I am still alive and I am not in prison so what are men so afraid of. It's time to start telling women how we really feel.
SpikeyChick Posted June 3, 2008 Posted June 3, 2008 . I feel like I am having Filet Mignon while other men are feasting on rotten entrails. Ooh a tad harsh Woggle ..However congrats on finding a diamond .
Sand&Water Posted June 3, 2008 Posted June 3, 2008 RE: I was going to say the same thing, xPaperxcutx. Can you explain what you meant by your last statement, MaxManwell? I don't think you really understand what you're saying. You seem to have a very vague idea of women, and especially the type of woman you would want to have as your wife/partner. I believe you are lost in a sea full of women. Why? Because you truly don't know the value of a woman, what she brings to the table, and the experiences she goes through to live her life. A woman who can cook, clean, work, and have children, within one balanced life is an incredibly successful woman. Can you do the same, MaxManwell? I doubt it. Your complaining, or rather anger towards women, will only make you look like a fool. You have NO idea what it means to be a woman. I believe there are plenty of amazing women in this world. I have met countless women who strive to find the right man, the right career, and the right lifestyle so that they can live a happy life. You are bitter because you haven't found the right woman for you. That's too bad. This is certainly NOT because there aren't any decent women. Get your head out of that trashcan, and start doing something about it. It's quite sad to see a man trash talk about women. Look at your gender, it doesn't have a lovely image, does it? You came from a woman. Sand&Water
Leia Posted June 3, 2008 Posted June 3, 2008 Hey, I am good guy, I am allowed to have opinions and my own ambitions. I do things for people all the time I act nice to most people including women, but WOMEN only appreciate for selfish reasons. Hey, I am a good woman. I am allowed to have my own opinions and ambitions too. I do things for people I love without expecting anything back but some men can only appreciate for selfish reasons. Oh well. Girls you think it is all fine and dandy but you should hear what we men really think of you behind closed doors. We'll say whatever to your face to shut you up because we know that if we don't we'll get ganged upon by every other woman. You should know your behaviour and the way you treat us men is really, really poor. We give you everything, equality our dedication, we provide for you, protect you and treat you special but you only want to be equal when it suits you. Well most men know of the double standards we just don't say anything about it to you. Thats why guys like me make these apparently sadistic and sexist statements when really all I am doing is being truthful for once. Oh you should hear what some women say about their men behind closed doors! I can say the same about men ~ the things women do for them and to be treated like dirt from those men.... A lot of women really need to start treating men with more respect because we do all the hard work, solve all the hardest problems and break our backs for you ladies. Yes, a lot of men really need to start treating women with more respect because we do all the hard work such as cooking, cleaning, picking up after your dirty laundry... oh my bad! My maid does that! There are a lot of great women out there but there are a lot more girls who are just horrible and are more like boys than what a woman should be. Yes a girl should stay home; cook,clean and look after babies but that doesn't mean if she wants to she can't go out and become a doctor or lawyer. I am all for equal opportunity but not social engineering. A woman should be a loving caring and submissive creature that is dedicated to her family and holding the unit together. There are not a lot of great men out there but so many whiny boys.
OpenBook Posted June 3, 2008 Posted June 3, 2008 Thats why guys like me make these apparently sadistic and sexist statements when really all I am doing is being truthful for once. A woman should be a loving caring and submissive creature that is dedicated to her family and holding the unit together. I know how to make a man happy. But I'll rot in hell before I make ANY effort whatsoever to please a man who espouses sadistic and sexist views, describes women as "creatures," and expects them to be submissive to your every whim. You are every woman's nightmare, sir.
Citizen Erased Posted June 3, 2008 Posted June 3, 2008 I think sitting on your behind in front of a computer screen complaining about the evils of women will NEVER help you find the decent woman you think you are entitled to. But instead you will stay angry and bitter and ward off the genuine, nice women who would never want anything to do with you.
Author MaxManwell Posted June 3, 2008 Author Posted June 3, 2008 Creating a thread on LS about the selfishness of modern women is rather pointless. Most of the women (I say 99%) here are failures at relationships and will NEVER tolerate any suggestion that they were at fault - hence you will be belittled, attacked and insulted for suggesting that the 'princesses' could possibly be less than the perfect creatures who exist in their delusions about themselves. Be ready for the side-stepping and blame shifting - read Taramere for a classic defensive and covertly hostile response . Apparently it is all about YOU buddy and your emotional disorder ..See what I mean. Posting here about the defects in women is like complaining to your mother-in-law about your wife. . Fair enough.
Woggle Posted June 3, 2008 Posted June 3, 2008 I think sitting on your behind in front of a computer screen complaining about the evils of women will NEVER help you find the decent woman you think you are entitled to. But instead you will stay angry and bitter and ward off the genuine, nice women who would never want anything to do with you. Actually this is not true. When I first came here I was a single guy ripping on women and now I am a happily married guy and still ripping on women so he can still find a good woman.
Citizen Erased Posted June 3, 2008 Posted June 3, 2008 Actually this is not true. When I first came here I was a single guy ripping on women and now I am a happily married guy and still ripping on women so he can still find a good woman. Happily married? I recall you posting just before you were getting married about leaving her, and how you envy "players". You start a thread every month or two about how she will leave you blah blah. You are the least happily married person I know Woggle. But if the OP manages to find a woman who makes him as happy as your wife potentially could, I would be pleased.
Elena62 Posted June 3, 2008 Posted June 3, 2008 Hey, I am good guy, I am allowed to have opinions and my own ambitions. I do things for people all the time I act nice to most people including women, but WOMEN only appreciate for selfish reasons. Girls you think it is all fine and dandy but you should hear what we men really think of you behind closed doors. We'll say whatever to your face to shut you up because we know that if we don't we'll get ganged upon by every other woman. You should know your behaviour and the way you treat us men is really, really poor. We give you everything, equality our dedication, we provide for you, protect you and treat you special but you only want to be equal when it suits you. Well most men know of the double standards we just don't say anything about it to you. Thats why guys like me make these apparently sadistic and sexist statements when really all I am doing is being truthful for once. A lot of women really need to start treating men with more respect because we do all the hard work, solve all the hardest problems and break our backs for you ladies. There are a lot of great women out there but there are a lot more girls who are just horrible and are more like boys than what a woman should be. Yes a girl should stay home; cook,clean and look after babies but that doesn't mean if she wants to she can't go out and become a doctor or lawyer. I am all for equal opportunity but not social engineering. A woman should be a loving caring and submissive creature that is dedicated to her family and holding the unit together. I'm proud to be a woman! I'm also proud to say that yes, women DO have their roles in society whether we like it or not. It's okay to say that men should be strong, hard working, look after his family well, treat a woman right - but doesn't the same apply to women? `come on girls think about it. Isn't it great when you can be in the arms of a man and be his and respected and you can give the same back? - Who ever starts the process off first it doesn't matter. What does matter is if one tries to be "a lady" or "a man" and the other doesn't give the same level of respect then at least you know you have tried? There are times when a woman should be strong: For her family, for her job and for her man. And there are times that a woman should be a WOMAN for her family, for her job, and for her man. That means a lot of things to a lot of different people. And I can openly admit that sometimes I love to be submissive in the traditional sense - but that doesn't mean I don't want respect or I'm being disrespected. In fact, if I feel that my woman-ness is being compromised I make it known. That's the art of communication and one that should be embraced. I think the problem here is that we've taken equality too far on both sides of the gender scale - and all of us are not believing in what we are true women and true men as we were created! We do all have a purpose you know? Bitterness causes us all to miscommunicate, it's counter productive. So Max to a large extent (discounting any bitterness that may come across from you and interpreted by others) I would have to agree with you - we are creatures (both men and women) and we should embrace who we are 100% - There is nothing more powerful than a man being a REAL man and a woman being a REAL woman. 100% whoa! hehehe.
Cherry Blossom 35 Posted June 3, 2008 Posted June 3, 2008 Well i suppose if your only meaningful relationships have been with prosititutes, then maybe this would definitely affect your view of women. http://www.loveshack.org/forums/t153705/
Woggle Posted June 3, 2008 Posted June 3, 2008 Happily married? I recall you posting just before you were getting married about leaving her, and how you envy "players". You start a thread every month or two about how she will leave you blah blah. You are the least happily married person I know Woggle. But if the OP manages to find a woman who makes him as happy as your wife potentially could, I would be pleased. I go throught periods of doubt because of what I see but when I think about it I did pretty damn good when it comes to picking a wife.
Citizen Erased Posted June 3, 2008 Posted June 3, 2008 I go throught periods of doubt because of what I see but when I think about it I did pretty damn good when it comes to picking a wife. You only see what you want to. You look hard for the negative and disregard any positives. I have alot of admiration for you and you should know that, but it got old long ago, us trying to call you down from that damn cliff edge. Anyway, this is not about you, and I apologise to the OP.
Author MaxManwell Posted June 3, 2008 Author Posted June 3, 2008 Well i suppose if your only meaningful relationships have been with prosititutes, then maybe this would definitely affect your view of women. http://www.loveshack.org/forums/t153705/ I am proud of what I did. I was a virgin without choice I took matters into my own hands and as a result became less miserable. In no way has visiting a prositute hollowed my view of women. Infact I would say it has had the opposite affect. I have a lot of respect for high end prostitutes, they're very professional and they have a very tough job that they do exceedingly well. It's not just lieing down screwing; it's customer service providing good converstation and satisfaction for each guest. They did a wonderful thing for me; at that time, but I would hope that part of my life is now over.
Cherry Blossom 35 Posted June 3, 2008 Posted June 3, 2008 I am proud of what I did. I was a virgin without choice I took matters into my own hands and as a result became less miserable. In no way has visiting a prositute hollowed my view of women. Infact I would say it has had the opposite affect. I have a lot of respect for high end prostitutes, they're very professional and they have a very tough job that they do exceedingly well. It's not just lieing down screwing; it's customer service providing good converstation and satisfaction for each guest. They did a wonderful thing for me; at that time, but I would hope that part of my life is now over. I get what your saying Maxmanwell, but I after reading that thread and this thread, I believe your view of women is based on what you can "get" from them. In the case of prostitutes, how much money will buy you certain activities or a really hot girl. In the case of a wife or girlfriend, you are looking for someone who will cook/clean for you, etc. I just think your approach is wrong. It sounds like you've never had a relationship based on mutual respect, honesty, etc. Finding a woman for a relationship should be about finding that person who complements you. The one you laugh with, share with, are comfortable with. Women will gravitate towards you if you are enjoying your life and seeing positive outcomes for yourself. Do you like your job? Do you have activities you enjoy doing? Do you have friends to laugh with? Also, I think your expectations of what a woman should look like are skewed too. Your average Joe is not going to be dating a super hot chick. Maybe you are super hot yourself, in that case go for it. But honestly, you could be setting yourself up for failure if you are only going for really hot babes when maybe the cute girl nest door is the one for you. I mean I'm a good-looking chick and all, but I won't be dating Brad Pitt anytime soon, and I don't go for guys who look like models.
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