TogetherForever Posted May 29, 2008 Posted May 29, 2008 So if you had to choose an LS guy to do this to you' date=' who would you choose? (This question is for the women, Pyro.)[/quote'] TanBark - oh yeah!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
tanbark813 Posted May 29, 2008 Posted May 29, 2008 TanBark - oh yeah!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Thanks, baby.
TogetherForever Posted May 29, 2008 Posted May 29, 2008 TBF doesn't like cum in her face or anal sex. Probably not open to other things as well. And then her husband cheated with another woman. Hmmm... Oh now that was not very nice . TF
dpr Posted May 29, 2008 Posted May 29, 2008 As fas as I know, there hasn't been any studies to prove that ejaculating on someone's face can't kill people. What if one of the people involved has an undiagnosed fatal heart condition? What if the guy is HIV positive and he ejaculates on an open facial blemish or wound? Unless you have some safety statistics to support your argument then I think that it's only fair to compare ejaculating on a person's face to necrophilia and auto-asphyxiation. Am I really dignifying this with a response? Well, yeah, I guess so. Necrophilia still involves an unwilling party, retard (the dead guy). Two partners mutually deciding to engage in "cum-play" does not. And as for your hypothetical, assuming you have both been tested for STDs (any sane couple today would make sure of this every 6 months), then how does the risk compare to auto-asphyxiation? But hey, since you asked: http://www.hopkins-hivguide.org/q_a/patient/hiv_transmission_and_prevention/cum_in_my_eye....html?contentInstanceId=382492&siteId=7151 As for the undiagnosed fatal heart condition, well I guess everyone in the world should just stop having sex right now, huh? And maybe we should stop exercising too, to, ya know, avoid that freak attack. We should probably stop crossing the street too, don't want to get hit by any cars, right? Get a brain.
dpr Posted May 29, 2008 Posted May 29, 2008 Somehow, I don't think the dead guy would mind. sighhhhh... well OBVIOUSLY, but the fact still remains that he didn't give his consent now did he? I guess some may rationalize it in that fashion ("Hey, he never said no!"), but unless he stipulated in his will that he wanted to be ****ed after he died, then I'd classify it as rape. Do you remember the story about the two men in Europe a few years back who made a consensual arrangement based on their cannibalistic sexual fantasies? One wanted to eat a human and the other guy wanted to be eaten. They carried out their fantasy. I do remember that. Seemed very strange to me, and can't quite understand why either party would be into that, but I guess they both got what they wanted. Who are we to judge? It's not like he kidnapped some unwilling guy and ate him. Dr. Kevorkian's patients can choose when and in which fashion they'd prefer to die, but that guy can't? Seems unfair IMO.
Storyrider Posted May 29, 2008 Posted May 29, 2008 sighhhhh... well OBVIOUSLY, but the fact still remains that he didn't give his consent now did he? I guess some may rationalize it in that fashion ("Hey, he never said no!"), but unless he stipulated in his will that he wanted to be ****ed after he died, then I'd classify it as rape. Don't be ridiculous. A dead body is an inanimate object. It is disrespectful to the memory of the living person, but it can never be rape. I do remember that. Seemed very strange to me, and can't quite understand why either party would be into that, but I guess they both got what they wanted. Who are we to judge? It's not like he kidnapped some unwilling guy and ate him. Yes, if you're unwilling to make moral distinctions, this is the only possible conclusion.
TogetherForever Posted May 29, 2008 Posted May 29, 2008 What about coming in the face of a dead person? That would at least eliminate the issue of consent. Now that would be considered degrading IMO.
The Collector Posted May 29, 2008 Posted May 29, 2008 What about coming in the face of a dead person? That would at least eliminate the issue of consent. The issue of consent that has been explicitly stressed as vital by everyone yet continues to be debated as if one side is reveling in its absence? To add another tortured analogy to this thread it's like someone asking 'Do you like garlic?' and someone replying 'it's wrong to force someone who doesn't like garlic to eat it' and the original questioner saying 'sure, I know, clearly' and the other person saying 'If someone forces someone to eat garlic against their will they are wrong' and the first person going 'Uh yeah, I agree but I'm not saying they should' and so on for 19 pages.
dpr Posted May 30, 2008 Posted May 30, 2008 Don't be ridiculous. A dead body is an inanimate object. It is disrespectful to the memory of the living person, but it can never be rape. You know what your problem is... you just don't respect dead people's boundaries. Yes, if you're unwilling to make moral distinctions, this is the only possible conclusion. Ah I see.. and who decides what is morally right and morally wrong... you? No not you, that's too simple. Let's leave it up to court-appointed psychologists and the rest of our legal system. They're the experts on morality, for sure.
dpr Posted May 30, 2008 Posted May 30, 2008 That was just rigor mortis. Somehow I managed to be posting about making love to dead bodies on two, totally unrelated threads. Sounds like an unhealthy obsession. Talk to Nemo if you want to be referred to a doctor.
dpr Posted May 30, 2008 Posted May 30, 2008 I f**ked a dead chick but you could tell she wanted it. I can't decide if it was wrong unless you tell me what was she wearing.
Jersey Shortie Posted June 2, 2008 Posted June 2, 2008 I think that cumming on a girls face is about humilating a girl and treating her like less of a person. Seeing how much men love it and how popular it is in porn does alot to feed my negative feelings about men. Maybe that isn't fair. But I don't think it's fair that men want respect from women but dont apparnetly really want to give it in turn. And I don't think you can have a medium such as porn, that I think has really made this act popular, and the negative and belitting way it treats women without women feeling some bitterness to men for lapping it up like dogs.
Mustang Sally Posted June 2, 2008 Posted June 2, 2008 Now that would be considered degrading IMO. To the dead person? Or the person who shot their load on the dead person?
Cov Posted June 2, 2008 Posted June 2, 2008 A girl I slept with wanted to sit on my face, the fact she her oral region stank and I just wasn't down with it, so I shoved her off the bed and gathered my things and left. I managed to get changed in my car and drove off. I've never heard from her again. I'm not into facials really, if a girl I'm having sex with wants one and demands one, then she shall receive what she desires, but that's as far it goes with me.
Trialbyfire Posted June 2, 2008 Posted June 2, 2008 What about coming in the face of a dead person? That would at least eliminate the issue of consent. Has the dead person aged to the age of consent?
dpr Posted June 3, 2008 Posted June 3, 2008 I think that cumming on a girls face is about humilating a girl and treating her like less of a person. Seeing how much men love it and how popular it is in porn does alot to feed my negative feelings about men. Maybe that isn't fair. But I don't think it's fair that men want respect from women but dont apparnetly really want to give it in turn. And I don't think you can have a medium such as porn, that I think has really made this act popular, and the negative and belitting way it treats women without women feeling some bitterness to men for lapping it up like dogs. Call me crazy, but I'm sure people have been ejaculating on their partner's faces before porn. After all, people had anal sex before porn, gave each other head before porn, etc. IMO, porn has nothing to do with it. And again, if you consider this degrading, then what about people who whip each other, smear each other with food, pull each other's hair, slap each other's asses, etc. Why is this one act considered "humiliating" or "degrading" but the rest of these acts are just common "sex play." I've come on a guy's face before during sex. Was I doing it because I hated him and had no respect for him as a man? Of course not. I did it because it turned us both on, which is the same reason I do it with my girlfriend. Also... why would I be dating a girl I have no respect for? Sorry, but your point of view just doesn't make sense to me, since almost any sexual act (doggystyle, cunnilingus, fellatio, anal, girl-on-top, etc.) can be considered degrading or humiliating depending on how you (over)analyze it.
The Collector Posted June 3, 2008 Posted June 3, 2008 I think that cumming on a girls face is about humilating a girl and treating her like less of a person. Seeing how much men love it and how popular it is in porn does alot to feed my negative feelings about men. Maybe that isn't fair. But I don't think it's fair that men want respect from women but dont apparnetly really want to give it in turn. And I don't think you can have a medium such as porn, that I think has really made this act popular, and the negative and belitting way it treats women without women feeling some bitterness to men for lapping it up like dogs. Loving that respect! Way to not treat a gender as less than human! Etc. When you maybe get a little older, see a bit more of the world, and understand the crazy world of human sexuality a bit better you might get that plenty of people enjoy being degraded and belittled in sexual role-play sometimes. And if it doesn't float your boat, there's about a billion other partners who don't find it erotic either, so you can pair up with one of them. Nobody's got a gun to anyone's head (but the idea of a gun to the head might turn plenty of normal, high-self-esteem guys and gals on.)
JerseyShortie Posted June 3, 2008 Posted June 3, 2008 While I am sure certain sex acts have been around since the dawn of time. Porn has made a circus of these sex acts and made them "in your face" (pun intended). And whenever I have watched porn with boyfriends, the act is more humliating for the woman then any act I have seen where the woman cum on the guy's face from oral. Maybe it has to do with her being on her knees, or having to "beg" for it, or him calling her a "slut". Whatever the reason, I consider it an act that is meant to degrade on some level.
tanbark813 Posted June 3, 2008 Posted June 3, 2008 Women who find cum on their face degrading are boring in bed anyway. Leave your politics and feminist propaganda out of the bedroom.
Teacher's Pet Posted June 4, 2008 Posted June 4, 2008 While I am sure certain sex acts have been around since the dawn of time. Porn has made a circus of these sex acts and made them "in your face" (pun intended). And whenever I have watched porn with boyfriends, the act is more humliating for the woman then any act I have seen where the woman cum on the guy's face from oral. Maybe it has to do with her being on her knees, or having to "beg" for it, or him calling her a "slut". Whatever the reason, I consider it an act that is meant to degrade on some level. If your boyfriend was smart, he'd find a way to justify that act.. Like for example... "Well, she didn't know where Hawaii was, so he drew her a map.." -tp think about it.
dpr Posted June 4, 2008 Posted June 4, 2008 While I am sure certain sex acts have been around since the dawn of time. Porn has made a circus of these sex acts and made them "in your face" (pun intended). And whenever I have watched porn with boyfriends, the act is more humliating for the woman then any act I have seen where the woman cum on the guy's face from oral. Maybe it has to do with her being on her knees, or having to "beg" for it, or him calling her a "slut". Whatever the reason, I consider it an act that is meant to degrade on some level. Some people like a little degradation during sex. As long as they like it, and are not made to feel bad by their partner in real life, then what's the harm? I'll agree with you that straight porn is more about guys than girls, because guys purchase it more than girls do. They're catering to their audience. But when I have sex, I don't use porn as a guide, do you? If I did, I would be really bad at eating girls out (or I just wouldn't eat them out at all) and I would never slow down my thrusting when ****ing them, instead I'd always **** them "rapid-fire" speed as hard as humanly possible. And I'd also have gross facial hair. It sounds to me though, that you don't watch enough porn to judge it. Not that I watch crazy amounts of porn or anything, but I have seen a lot of mainstream internet porn that would be considered demeaning to men. Google "cock and ball torture," if you want, that's just one example.
JerseyShortie Posted June 4, 2008 Posted June 4, 2008 Women who find cum on their face degrading are boring in bed anyway. Leave your politics and feminist propaganda out of the bedroom Do you enjoy being degraded? Do you leave your mascline propaganda at the bedroom door? I am just curious if what is good for the goose, is good for the gander. If your boyfriend was smart, he'd find a way to justify that act.. Like for example... "Well, she didn't know where Hawaii was, so he drew her a map.." -tp think about it. If my "boyfriend" use that as a justification, he would be classified an idiot and kicked to the curb. No longer in boyfriend status. Some people like a little degradation during sex. As long as they like it, and are not made to feel bad by their partner in real life, then what's the harm? Because even if they aren't making their partners feel bad about it in real life, they clearly think their partner is below them. But when I have sex, I don't use porn as a guide, do you? Then you are one of the rare men that don't. Lots of men use porn as a guide. Hence the reason men what to do the things they see in porn and hold it up to this fantasy ideal. I have been with a few men that so very obviously learned their moves pathically from porn. It sounds to me though, that you don't watch enough porn to judge it. Not that I watch crazy amounts of porn or anything, but I have seen a lot of mainstream internet porn that would be considered demeaning to men. Google "cock and ball torture," if you want, that's just one example. Well lets compare, how many women want to torture their man's cock and balls and how many men want to cum on their woman's face? Yeah, I think we can see that the second is more popular. Another reminder that men don't really value women.
TogetherForever Posted June 4, 2008 Posted June 4, 2008 To the dead person? Or the person who shot their load on the dead person? Degrading to the dead person of course. But also could be degrading to the person whom shot his load. Pretty sad to have shot it onto a dead person. TF
TogetherForever Posted June 4, 2008 Posted June 4, 2008 A girl I slept with wanted to sit on my face, the fact she her oral region stank and I just wasn't down with it, so I shoved her off the bed and gathered my things and left. I managed to get changed in my car and drove off. I've never heard from her again. I'm not into facials really, if a girl I'm having sex with wants one and demands one, then she shall receive what she desires, but that's as far it goes with me. her oral region stank Bad breath??? Did you mean her vaginal area stank?
Trialbyfire Posted June 4, 2008 Posted June 4, 2008 Lots of men use porn as a guide. Both men and women do this which I find ridiculous since you're allowing the skin industry to define your sexuality.
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