TheFonz Posted April 7, 2008 Posted April 7, 2008 What? lol Did that make sense to anyone but him? I'm saying eric is just agreeing with you because you are a girl and you twisted his arm. And the other thing I said is you just want a guy to say he wants a relationship, which could be a lie, but you will beliegve you have a relationship guy when you really don't. You got to think fast with me .
eric82 Posted April 7, 2008 Posted April 7, 2008 (edited) I'm saying eric is just agreeing with you because you are a girl and you twisted his arm. And the other thing I said is you just want a guy to say he wants a relationship, which could be a lie, but you will beliegve you have a relationship guy when you really don't. You got to think fast with me . I wasn't agreeing with her because she's female and she never twisted my arm, I'm disagreeing with what you're saying because frankly I think it's nonsense (that you think she should get involved with non-committal guys with the intention or hope of persuading/changing them into wanting the same things in a relationship as she does). Just because you might be afraid of the idea of commitment doesn't mean all guys are, and just because you don't get what she's saying doesn't validate your opinion. She never said she was wanting a guy to want commitment to her from the start, she said she wants him to be open to the idea of a committed relationship with a girl (which could turn out to be her if they each play their cards right)... that way she doesn't have to try to change him or wait around hoping he'll change for her. Edited April 7, 2008 by eric82
TheFonz Posted April 7, 2008 Posted April 7, 2008 I wasn't agreeing with her because she's female and she never twisted my arm, I'm disagreeing with what you're saying because frankly I think it's nonsense (that you think she should get involved with non-committal guys with the intention or hope of persuading/changing them into wanting the same things in a relationship as she does). Did I say that? No, I said how she screens for commitment guys is all wrong. Just because you might be afraid of the idea of commitment doesn't mean all guys are, and just because you don't get what she's saying doesn't validate your opinion. Did I say I was afraid of commitment or it was about me? Did I say guys are noncommital? No. I said most guys are open to a commitment but that doesn't mean they go around saying they are to every girl. She never said she was wanting a guy to want commitment to her from the start, she said she wants him to be open to the idea of a committed relationship with a girl (which could turn out to be her if they each play their cards right)... that way she doesn't have to try to change him or wait around hoping he'll change for her. No she said a guy had to say he wants a relationship from the get go. She comfirmed this in her other thread. Sorry but you just really convinced me more you are agreeing with her because she's a girl.
eric82 Posted April 8, 2008 Posted April 8, 2008 Did I say that? No, I said how she screens for commitment guys is all wrong. If she asks the guy what he's looking for and what he tells her doesn't align with what she wants in a relationship, why not screen him out? That's the purpose of dating. It's like a guy telling her that he never wants children or never wants to get married when she's planning to have that kind of future. If it's an issue from the start, it's likely to become an even bigger conflict later. Did I say I was afraid of commitment or it was about me? Did I say guys are noncommital? No. I said most guys are open to a commitment but that doesn't mean they go around saying they are to every girl. Well in the beginning stages of dating, all you have to go on is what the person presents to you. If the guy tells her flat out that he doesn't want a serious relationship, why should she assume that deep down he really does and just isn't admitting it to her yet? No she said a guy had to say he wants a relationship from the get go. She comfirmed this in her other thread. No, that's why you're misunderstanding her. She said she wants a guy who wants the same kind of relationship (i.e. future) as her from the get go, so she doesn't have to try to change him into wanting that. Sorry but you just really convinced me more you are agreeing with her because she's a girl. I accept your apology.
TheFonz Posted April 8, 2008 Posted April 8, 2008 If she asks the guy what he's looking for and what he tells her doesn't align with what she wants in a relationship, why not screen him out? That's the purpose of dating. It's like a guy telling her that he never wants children or never wants to get married when she's planning to have that kind of future. If it's an issue from the start, it's likely to become an even bigger conflict later. Well in the beginning stages of dating, all you have to go on is what the person presents to you. If the guy tells her flat out that he doesn't want a serious relationship, why should she assume that deep down he really does and just isn't admitting it to her yet? No, that's why you're misunderstanding her. She said she wants a guy who wants the same kind of relationship (i.e. future) as her from the get go, so she doesn't have to try to change him into wanting that. I accept your apology. What you're saying is reasonable but remember she was earlier disagree with us both. She's not saying what you're saying exactly. We are actually pretty much in agreement.
Author sweetbutcheeky Posted April 8, 2008 Author Posted April 8, 2008 I'm saying eric is just agreeing with you because you are a girl and you twisted his arm. And the other thing I said is you just want a guy to say he wants a relationship, which could be a lie, but you will beliegve you have a relationship guy when you really don't. You got to think fast with me . I think Eric can think on his own. No I want a guy who wants a relationship. Not just want to hear him say it. Yes they can lie and yes I have had them lie and say they do. So why would I just want to hear it?
Author sweetbutcheeky Posted April 8, 2008 Author Posted April 8, 2008 I wasn't agreeing with her because she's female and she never twisted my arm, I'm disagreeing with what you're saying because frankly I think it's nonsense (that you think she should get involved with non-committal guys with the intention or hope of persuading/changing them into wanting the same things in a relationship as she does). Just because you might be afraid of the idea of commitment doesn't mean all guys are, and just because you don't get what she's saying doesn't validate your opinion. She never said she was wanting a guy to want commitment to her from the start, she said she wants him to be open to the idea of a committed relationship with a girl (which could turn out to be her if they each play their cards right)... that way she doesn't have to try to change him or wait around hoping he'll change for her. Yes! Thank you! Exactly!
Author sweetbutcheeky Posted April 8, 2008 Author Posted April 8, 2008 No she said a guy had to say he wants a relationship from the get go. She comfirmed this in her other thread. Sorry but you just really convinced me more you are agreeing with her because she's a girl. Ever feel like people are talking about you when your in the room or forgot your name? LOL I said I want him to want a relationship yes, but didn't say I wanted him to have one with me from the first date! Some people are looking for one, some don't want to be in one (some don't know what they want). But as Eric said I want him to be open to the idea of a committed relationship, if he isn't looking to find one or open us dating could become a committed relationship then why would I put myself in that situation? I would let him do his thing and find someone else who is open and looking. As I said before Eric can think for himself, I'm not sure why you think that just because I am a girl I have this magical power to make him think the way I want him to. Hmm unless I do have magic powers ... na doubt it cause I have never been able to make guys think what I am thinking before!
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