DanielMadr Posted March 30, 2008 Posted March 30, 2008 Don't see how they're dogmatic and stupid... There are more levels to racism or homophobia than just you either Love or Hate homos or eskimos. If you dont see it, well then you are a dogmatic....and I wouldnt date you Stupid....because all it matters is if you make her melt and wet. If not, then there are 1million things she can find wrong with you.
DanielMadr Posted March 30, 2008 Posted March 30, 2008 'heard'... no I haven't.. care to tell me.. The fox wasnt able to get to the grapes. Either she was too lazy or was afraid to fall or that she would look silly in front af a bird, so she pronounced the grapes as SOUR.
FormerNiceGuy Posted March 30, 2008 Posted March 30, 2008 Still single aye? That was actually kinda funny. Overall, this list is.....enlightening...to say the least. But it also makes me realize..there is no perfect man...just as there is no perfect woman.
Elemental Posted March 30, 2008 Posted March 30, 2008 Instead of posting things I think I don't like, I'll post things I've actually dismissed men for. In no particular order: 1. Homophobia or racism 2. "Poor me" syndrome, where everything bad that happens to him is someone else's fault. 3. Possessive or jealous. Double points if he tries to make me jealous, triple if he's generically jealous of everyone who has something he doesn't. Think it's unfair that so-and-so actor makes millions? Go to acting school or STFU. 4. Stupid, lazy or incurious. These usually go together. 5. Pop culture zombie. If he knows anything about Survivor or American Idol, I'm not interested. Double points if he's wearing brand-new, fashionable clothes, has "product" in his hair, or shows any other sign of having spent more time at the mall or in front of the mirror than I did. Hint: that doesn't give him much leeway. 6. Self-centered. 7. Needy. Double points if he's whiny about it. 8. Wants to "put me in my place". 9. Golddigging. 10. Married. Personally, I find this one downright comical, and it's all I can do to keep from laughing in their faces. 11. Untreated mental illness. Double points if he thinks he's fine, it's just everyone else who has a problem. I'm cautious if it's being treated, but will keep an open mind. 12. Violent. Double points if he's ever hit anything smaller and weaker than he is, triple if he brags about it. 13. Substance abuse. I'm lenient with smokers, because smoking doesn't make people irrational, but I'm nasty about the mind-altering stuff. I also don't like smoking, but I'll tolerate it as long as he doesn't do it in my space. These last two go beyond dating. I won't even associate with a man who does these things. Seems like a long list, but I'm at a loss as to what a man could bring to the table that could compensate for any one of these.
ONegative Posted March 30, 2008 Posted March 30, 2008 Great list Elemental. My faves are: #2, 6, 8, 10, 11, 12 and 13. These are definite no-no's for me. Done a #10 before - big mistake.
Cov Posted March 30, 2008 Posted March 30, 2008 Why have a lot of women got a problem with men who take care of their appearance in the way a woman would? I spend 15 minutes straightening my hair and another 15 minutes gelling it and usually half an hour washing it, blow drying it and a few minutes combing it. I spend about ten minutes brushing my teeth and spend about twenty minutes getting dressed, I don't understand why this is a turn off for women. Would you prefer it if men around around with greasy hair, bad teeth, body odor of an unsavoury kind? Women want men who take care of themselves, yet slate them because they spend a while making sure they are presentable, it's a double standard. I'm still considering making it either double points or triple points, I can't seem to decide.
JosieMcCoy Posted March 30, 2008 Posted March 30, 2008 So you advertise to these women how long you take to get primped?
Cov Posted March 30, 2008 Posted March 30, 2008 So you advertise to these women how long you take to get primped? I'm hardly advertising, where's the flash commercial? The fact is for every woman that hates to see a man take a pride in his appearance, there's another one who loves a man who takes care of his appearance, and it's the latter women that matter, not the former.
JosieMcCoy Posted March 30, 2008 Posted March 30, 2008 I'm hardly advertising, where's the flash commercial? The fact is for every woman that hates to see a man take a pride in his appearance, there's another one who loves a man who takes care of his appearance, and it's the latter women that matter, not the former. Well, you sound pretty suave! Where did you come up with that statistic about for every woman... etc? Did you just make it up or do you have a source?
Cov Posted March 30, 2008 Posted March 30, 2008 It's from personal experience, I've had just as many women compliment me for my appearance than shun me for taking care of my appearance, so I'm guessing if the scale was wider the results would be similar.
Elemental Posted March 30, 2008 Posted March 30, 2008 Why have a lot of women got a problem with men who take care of their appearance in the way a woman would? I spend 15 minutes straightening my hair and another 15 minutes gelling it and usually half an hour washing it, blow drying it and a few minutes combing it. I spend about ten minutes brushing my teeth and spend about twenty minutes getting dressed, I don't understand why this is a turn off for women. Would you prefer it if men around around with greasy hair, bad teeth, body odor of an unsavoury kind? Women want men who take care of themselves, yet slate them because they spend a while making sure they are presentable, it's a double standard. I'm still considering making it either double points or triple points, I can't seem to decide. Since when did simple cleanliness become unacceptable?
Cov Posted March 30, 2008 Posted March 30, 2008 (edited) Since when did simple cleanliness become unacceptable? The women on here and in general are hardly specific when they mention a man's appearance. They want a clean and respectable man and well clean and respectable men like to smarten themselves up, add some gel or hair products to their hair, wear nice and slick clothes that feel comfortable and look nice, they like to wear nice smelling men's perfume e.g Hugo Boss, Christian Dior. I don't feel men should be slated for taking care of my appearance. I take care of my appearance everyday and it takes just over an hour, it not only looks fantastic, it makes feel fantastic, too. A lot of people strive for perfection in their appearance for self confidence and self esteem issues just as much as they do to feel comfortable and attract people. How you look can improve your overall well-being. Edited March 30, 2008 by Cov typo
JosieMcCoy Posted March 30, 2008 Posted March 30, 2008 The women on here... The woman on here? How do you know everyone so well? You just joined this site YESTERDAY and only have 21 posts. You know all the women on here with that point of view? What threads do you have for reference? Surely some must stand out.
Cov Posted March 30, 2008 Posted March 30, 2008 The woman on here? How do you know everyone so well? You just joined this site YESTERDAY and only have 21 posts. You know all the women on here with that point of view? What threads do you have for reference? Surely some must stand out. You're a sharp one. I haven't read every woman's perspective on this, but the ones I have read seem to react negatively to men who like to take care of their appearance. I suppose I can understand this negativity as I have been taught that women generally like an Alpha male and not a 'femboy' whatever one of those is.
juliebijoux Posted March 30, 2008 Posted March 30, 2008 I really like genuinely smart guys. Not arrogant, but confident in their field. Maybe subtly include in conversation if you have published a paper in a journal or worked with a really cool project or if you are an expert in a special field. But don't lie or exaggerate b/c that could backfire.
Elemental Posted March 30, 2008 Posted March 30, 2008 I take care of my appearance everyday and it takes just over an hour... Over an hour? Holy crap! It takes me an hour to be showered, dressed, fed and out the door in the morning. My skin, hair and teeth are in excellent shape, too. What do you do with that time?
Cov Posted March 30, 2008 Posted March 30, 2008 Over an hour? Holy crap! It takes me an hour to be showered, dressed, fed and out the door in the morning. My skin, hair and teeth are in excellent shape, too. What do you do with that time? I thought that was obvious. *Scroll up to the top of the page, if you are that interested*
Uncertain123 Posted March 30, 2008 Posted March 30, 2008 My list: (1) Men who are overly moody. (2) Men who expect me to show an interest in everything they do, but actively roll their eyes and dismiss anything I am interested in. (3) Oh, and men who roll their eyes -- seriously, this is one mannerism that no man over the age of 16 should ever use. (4) Men who use chivalry in an opportunistic fashion -- i.e., they will open doors and be a gentlemen only when somebody is watching or when they are trying to get the girl, but turn it off when they think there is no accountability. (5) Men who make fun of overweight women, women with obvious problems, etc. -- as a woman, I take this as a sign that they really don't respect my gender, and only like me because I pass their criteria. (6) Men who are rude or impatient with service people (wait staff, delivery people, clerks in the store, etc.) (7) Men who complain in public about petty things. (i.e, you walk into a store and a man starts griping about the store or the products within earshot of other customers or the salespeople). (8) Men who are too into status items, like expensive cars, watches, etc., unless they can truly afford it and they simply buy it and use it becuase they like it. To me, there is nothing more unattractive than a man who cannot afford a luxery car, but harps on and on about how much he wants one because it's such a mark of success. Seriously, get off your butt and work for it, buy it, and then just recognize it for what it is....a car. (9) Men who do not exercise.
Blue Eyed Brain Posted March 30, 2008 Posted March 30, 2008 Someone that does not treat me kindly or respectfully.
Elemental Posted March 30, 2008 Posted March 30, 2008 I thought that was obvious. *Scroll up to the top of the page, if you are that interested* Sigh...right, you did put the times in. I'm multi-tasking here. But, wow! To be honest, I would find that off-putting. It seems excessive to me.
Author themessenger Posted March 30, 2008 Author Posted March 30, 2008 (edited) Stupid....because all it matters is if you make her melt and wet. If not, then there are 1million things she can find wrong with you. OK Daniel tell me how you make her melt and wet. Anybody agree with his coment? Maybe I should make a thread titled traits that make women wet. also would the women care to expand on there defintion of neediness or jealousy? every women seems to have a unique opinion on this. Edited March 30, 2008 by themessenger
DanielMadr Posted March 30, 2008 Posted March 30, 2008 OK Daniel tell me how you make her melt and wet. Anybody agree with his coment? Maybe I should make a thread titled traits that make women wet. also would the women care to expand on there defintion of neediness or jealousy? every women seems to have a unique opinion on this. First- for that "I take care of myself" guy. Dude, its just gay. Second - It takes me 10 minutes to be out of bed and on my way to work. Third - Girls, you mention the List on a date or you start interogating....RED ALERT. How do I make a girl melt and wet? I dont know. Maybe this---Some "technique" that could be incomporated by someone else is maybe that I picture her naked, with red cheeks and hair all around meanwhile she tries to tell me all about her. I think my mindset is contagious.
LucreziaBorgia Posted March 30, 2008 Posted March 30, 2008 also would the women care to expand on there defintion of neediness or jealousy? every women seems to have a unique opinion on this. I have a perfect example. I very briefly dated a guy who initially seemed charming, polite, fun, etc but ended up being an out and out psycho especially with the clingy/needy and jealous thing. He started out with a life of his own, and then moved in on mine - he stopped hanging out with his friends, he stopped going out, he quit his job to take one in town - and he did this because he didn't want me out of his sight. He got to the point where he would follow me if I left without me knowing. I found out later that where ever I went he would follow, park his truck and watch me until I left - the grocery store, my girl friend's house, my family's house, running errands, etc. If I even looked in the general direction of another guy he would say.. "you want to f*ck him? Is that why you are looking at him"? And then he would go start a fight with the guy! That kind of asshattery I can do without. If I see even a WHIFF of that kind of behavior in a guy now, I'm done with him.
Siciliana Posted March 30, 2008 Posted March 30, 2008 I can't stand when guys have bad teeth. And, when I say bad teeth I am not talking about crooked teeth. I am talking about stank decay rooting-tooth smell that comes out of their mouth. The smell that doesn't go away even if they use Listerine and chew gum. I agree with almost all of the other stuff listed by the ladies here too.
Author themessenger Posted March 30, 2008 Author Posted March 30, 2008 OH my god where do you find guys with teeth like that?
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