xpaperxcutx Posted March 21, 2008 Posted March 21, 2008 To OP, The fact that you have a list of requirements of the type of woman you want shows that you're very high demanding. Not that there's anything wrong with that, but it's most likely not every woman will have each of those qualities. You said that you don't like playing games and is not willing to invest too much time into a woman until you feel that certain attraction. But in order to get a date, you have to make the first step. At least most of the time. Shy women are least likely to go up to a guy and ask for their #, so you have to make an effort to initiate the first approach. And you do have to invest a little time in one, because physical attributes do not speak for the woman as a whole. You have to put in a bit of time to get to know their personality and the deeper qualitities they possess. Don't expect all women to hang a sign on their necks that says "I'm (financially) independent, beautiful, emotionally available, and I carry no extra baggage".
Rogue Posted March 21, 2008 Posted March 21, 2008 Hey, you sound like a potential "good guy" , but right now you are still mostly a "nice guy" . You know the difference? No? OK- here is an example... 1. Nice Guy setting up a date with new women -- NG calls prospective date, " Hi ABC this is Nice Guy here- how was your day ?(blah blah for about 40 minutes and finally he says) "Would you have dinner with me Friday night.. What kind of restaurant do you prefer. Will i pick you up . What time ?.... OK, this will be great. I cant wait to see you again. Till Friday then.. " 2. Good Guy setting up a date with new woman -- GG calls prospective date , " Hello ABC, I am the GG from the club. Hows it going ? Hey, I have Friday night free and I plan to go out and treat myself to a great meal Friday night, and I want you to come long . I am thinking Thai right now - you like spicey food as much as I do . I am heading out about 8pm can you be ready then. .. OK great , bye , see you at 8.." Feel the difference? Yeah but a PUA doesn't take women out to dinner on the first date and especially not on a Friday night.
Rogue Posted March 21, 2008 Posted March 21, 2008 Thanks KidEternity...I suppose part of my problem is that I'm pretty picky when it comes to looks and such. There has to be a high level of attraction before I even pursue things further. I always figured gyms were the worst places to meet and hit on a woman..looks like I was wrong. I'm still curious as to AussieJack's Good Guy/Nice Guy story and how I'm a potential Good Guy. Women love confidence. You just need to be assertive and take the lead... A woman will follow. Nice guys let the girl lead. It's a massive turn-off. For example: Nice Guy "Can I have you phone number?" PUA: "Give me your number" Nice guy "Would you like to go out?" PUA "When are we going out?"
Rogue Posted March 21, 2008 Posted March 21, 2008 Shallow ? I think NOT ! These are perfectly reasonable requirements . Hwever, you need to develop the confidence to OWN your own list and not apologise for wanting a woman with these attributes. These are your requirenments after all. You appear to be unsure that what you want is OK ? Yes it is OK, so go get yourself some contenders. I would also offer this advice - make a list of "character traits" that are "must haves'...and apply them. You want a final piece of GOLD...(listen to this, men ) DO not be reluctant to assert your rightful leadership in dating relationships.. and be willing to dump those women who don't like it. Sounds like you have been reading too much Ross Jeffries.
AussieJack Posted March 21, 2008 Posted March 21, 2008 Yeah but a PUA doesn't take women out to dinner on the first date and especially not on a Friday night. The OP is not a PUA so the "no dinner on a first date " rule does not apply to him.
AussieJack Posted March 21, 2008 Posted March 21, 2008 Sounds like you have been reading too much Ross Jeffries. Who is he?
Rogue Posted March 21, 2008 Posted March 21, 2008 The OP is not a PUA so the "no dinner on a first date " rule does not apply to him. PUA or not, you should never take a woman out out to dinner on a first date. For that matter, you shouldn't date in the first place. Where in Aus are you from?
Rogue Posted March 21, 2008 Posted March 21, 2008 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lxe2Qf47pcM And he is an ugly b astard!
carhill Posted March 21, 2008 Posted March 21, 2008 Heh, yeah, and I'm trying valiantly to place him. I knew a guy named Ross back in college that looked remarkably like this guy....hmmm... I think AJ is up Brissie way.
Neptune Posted March 21, 2008 Posted March 21, 2008 jprez1980 There are no quality ladies out there. If you want a woman you have to take what you can get. Usually when you are doing things to meet women you are on the wrong track. The best thing is to do what you love. Few people really do. But that will get you closer to getting the right woman for yourself. You may be surprised to find she doesn`t fit your grocery list at all. But, she fits:D
Rogue Posted March 21, 2008 Posted March 21, 2008 jprez1980 There are no quality ladies out there. If you want a woman you have to take what you can get. Usually when you are doing things to meet women you are on the wrong track. The best thing is to do what you love. Few people really do. But that will get you closer to getting the right woman for yourself. You may be surprised to find she doesn`t fit your grocery list at all. But, she fits:D That is really bad advice. A defeatist attitude.
AussieJack Posted March 21, 2008 Posted March 21, 2008 Heh, yeah, and I'm trying valiantly to place him. I knew a guy named Ross back in college that looked remarkably like this guy....hmmm... I think AJ is up Brissie way. Yeh, Brisbane ,Queensland.
AussieJack Posted March 21, 2008 Posted March 21, 2008 jprez1980 There are no quality ladies out there. If you want a woman you have to take what you can get. Yes there are - I am dating three of them right now . The youngest is 20 , the next one is 42 and the oldest is 50 years old - I am 47 years old . Two cougars and a kitten .. Come to think of it I have no 30 somethings - damn !
Lookingforward Posted March 21, 2008 Posted March 21, 2008 He developed Speed Seduction. If it's speedy it ain't seduction Just my opinion
Lookingforward Posted March 21, 2008 Posted March 21, 2008 Yes there are - I am dating three of them right now . The youngest is 20 , the next one is 42 and the oldest is 50 years old - I am 47 years old . Two cougars and a kitten .. Come to think of it I have no 30 somethings - damn ! LOL, trust a banana bender - must be the heat, I swear
Rogue Posted March 21, 2008 Posted March 21, 2008 If it's speedy it ain't seduction Just my opinion Speed Seduction is about getting someone into bed as soon as possible from the first meet i.e. the same day.
xpaperxcutx Posted March 21, 2008 Posted March 21, 2008 Speed Seduction is about getting someone into bed as soon as possible from the first meet i.e. the same day. The OP asked for quality women, not girls that give it so easily... but that's besides the point. I doubt OP is looking for one night stands.
AussieJack Posted March 21, 2008 Posted March 21, 2008 LOL, trust a banana bender - must be the heat, I swear Have you traveled over here ,or are you a transplant from here to there.??
Lookingforward Posted March 21, 2008 Posted March 21, 2008 Speed Seduction is about getting someone into bed as soon as possible from the first meet i.e. the same day. As I said ....and good luck with that Guess it depends what satisfies you, steak or burger
Lookingforward Posted March 21, 2008 Posted March 21, 2008 Have you traveled over here ,or are you a transplant from here to there.?? Transplant lol - born Adelaide, last before here ex Sydney
AussieJack Posted March 21, 2008 Posted March 21, 2008 Transplant lol - born Adelaide, last before here ex Sydney G'day, How do ya get on with the septics there ? Any dinky di's where you live? Ya hear about the Rudd slide ? You from SA huh ? The Crows are gonna eat crow this year. Hoo roo ...
Green Posted March 21, 2008 Posted March 21, 2008 Look man I know some guys in your situation, The key to getting male compianionship is just making one good friend, then you get the group. If its been a while since you've been close friends with a group of guys then maybe you forgot. Once you get some friends a great way to meet women is have bar B q's and get togather with women you barely know, just invite them.
DanielMadr Posted March 21, 2008 Posted March 21, 2008 Alright gang, lay it all on me...I think I can take it. I'm 27 (about to be 28), I throw myself into my work and come home and watch TV. Weekends are usually spent working out alone or on a date. Almost all of my male friends are now married and of course they really don't hang out with a single guy. The 2 single friends I do have are either working or in school and I rarely get to see them. So I feel this limits my ability to really go out to meet new people. Being alone at a bar or club or restaurant just has a huge stereotype around it and I don't think I'd be comfortable with it. I'd say within the past year I've gone out with friends maybe 5 times. When I am unable to meet up with them I usually spend my time at home working out, jogging, riding my bike outdoors (bicycle) find a new date online or working on the house. Going back 10 years, I've met tons of ladies but they have all be off the Internet and very few brought as much to the dating table as I did and many were just plain odd. After doing some self reflection I think it's time for me to throw in the towel on Internet dating. It doesn't seem to work for me and based on prior conversations with some of the ladies I've met they seem to get a big self esteem boost when they come home and have 200 messages waiting on them. I guess my main question is, how do I get out there and meet someone who is quality when my guy friends are married and pretty much unavailable. I'd like to have more male companionship also as I feel that's equally important. All I know is that I'm tired of throwing myself into my work and having the same routine. Also, based on information I've received before...I'm a "nice guy" which pretty much screws me over from the get go with women. I've been told I'm great overall, but the drama and excitement of a bad boy is apparently what women thrive on these days. It's just getting to be depressing over all, hell maybe I need a life coach lol. You have answered most of your questions already. All you need to do is stick with what your gut tells you. 1. Avoid Internet Dating - it is waste of time 2. Find male-companionship through common hobbies 3. Get rid of the nice guy (mommy pleasing weirdo kid) 4. Break the routine by changing job 5. Women dont need to be protected - police does the job. And they dont need to be fed - pink collar nonsense job opportunities do that. All you can give them is a feeling they are alive. So dont be like a zombie.
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