Author Angels&Airwaves Posted March 16, 2008 Author Posted March 16, 2008 Absolutely get her contact info. Don't be afraid of the friend zone. My Mom was friends with my Dad all through college. They were both involved with other people that whole time. Both even ended up becoming engaged to their SO's. Dad dropped his engagement and went after Mom. She dropped hers and married him! They were happily married for 54 years before Dad died. It happens. You never know. I was close friends with a girl a few years ago and eventually I developed feelings for her, she began to pick up signs that I liked her and when she confronted me on the issue, I was so startled, I couldn't bring myself to deny her claim and in the friendship became very awkward and very difficult and in the end we parted ways. I'm just not sure I want to risk bringing these problems up again. I try and keep my friends as friends and potential partners as potential partners, rather than befriending them and digging myself into a larger hole. I'm not saying, you can't be friends with your partner, but if you place yourself as a friend then it limits your chances of dating etc. Women say a lot of things A&A - doesn't make them true. " Cocky and funny" is the way. However you need to get the mix right.Too muck 'cocky' and you appear arrogant and vain. Too muck 'funny' and you come off as a goofball. MIx the two and you have the magic formula. IT works - Use women at work for practise. Use the checkout chicks and any woman you come in contact with to hone your skills. I do, every day. Don't listen to the sourpusses on this board. THis is harmless fun - and you will build your confidence in a very short time. I hear you, I'll try it sometime.
AussieJack Posted March 16, 2008 Posted March 16, 2008 Again, I agree with Aussie. As a woman, this works for me and it also works for my GF's. The cocky guys are the ones we notice, the ones we talk about, the ones we eventually say "Yes" to. Cockiness works, as long as you have the character to back it up with. It's a huge compliment to a woman when a man struts and preens in front of her like a peacock... as long as it's not overdone. Meaning, you have to show her that you're also interested in HER and what she likes, etc. Ahh ! an honest woman who is not caught up in the need to defend or propogate the dogma from the "sisterhood" and can speak her mind.. Unfortunately most guys these days are too wussified and whipped to "strut and preen" in front of attactive women, thanks to the education system, the media, feminist brainwashing and absent fathers. You poor, sad guys out there. I am having all the fun with the girls and you guys are posting here about how exciting it was when your potential new girlfriend , "touched my hand last night - what does it mean?" Give me strength.
Author Angels&Airwaves Posted March 16, 2008 Author Posted March 16, 2008 Have you had any meaningful relationships with these women though? Has it just been about meeting them at a club, or bar and taking them back to your pad for some 'strutting and preening'. or a series of a dates which have/haven't developed into anything. I'm looking for something a bit more long lasting. So you can have my share, so as long as I find someone who truly likes me.
AussieJack Posted March 16, 2008 Posted March 16, 2008 Have you had any meaningful relationships with these women though? Has it just been about meeting them at a club, or bar and taking them back to your pad for some 'strutting and preening'. or a series of a dates which have/haven't developed into anything. I'm looking for something a bit more long lasting. So you can have my share, so as long as I find someone who truly likes me. I have had many "meaningful" relationships. Your thinking needs to change - you still believe that women like guys who are "sensitive and accomodating ". NO ! women have AFFECTION for these guys but no ATTRACTION...Big difference . Here is my MOnday Morning point of wisdom --" Women fall for the way that you make them FEEL. " They do not fall for YOU initially - you are just the agent of their emotional stimulation. Stir up women's feelings and you are GOLD. That probably goes against what you believe - I bet that you try to present yourself as stable, reliable, settled and predictable, dont ya ? Somewhat like a "good catch" ? How is that working ??
OpenBook Posted March 16, 2008 Posted March 16, 2008 Ahh ! an honest woman who is not caught up in the need to defend or propogate the dogma from the "sisterhood" and can speak her mind.. Well, thank you (I think). What do you mean by "dogma from the sisterhood"?? Unfortunately most guys these days are too wussified and whipped to "strut and preen" in front of attactive women, thanks to the education system, the media, feminist brainwashing and absent fathers. Well then, you should be relieved and encouraged to hear that the men are still very much "strutting and preening" here in the South (U.S.). The young 'uns, the old ones, and the ones in between. It's rampant. They deserve their very own catwalk.
AussieJack Posted March 16, 2008 Posted March 16, 2008 Well, thank you (I think). What do you mean by "dogma from the sisterhood"?? AussieJack > I mean the ramblings from the feminists... Well then, you should be relieved and encouraged to hear that the men are still very much "strutting and preening" here in the South (U.S.). The young 'uns, the old ones, and the ones in between. It's rampant. They deserve their very own catwalk. I approve ! I loved your part of the world - spent 2 years at UNC a few years ago. Yoall live anywhere near Charlotte?
Author Angels&Airwaves Posted March 16, 2008 Author Posted March 16, 2008 (edited) I have had many "meaningful" relationships. Your thinking needs to change - you still believe that women like guys who are "sensitive and accomodating ". NO ! women have AFFECTION for these guys but no ATTRACTION...Big difference . Here is my MOnday Morning point of wisdom --" Women fall for the way that you make them FEEL. " They do not fall for YOU initially - you are just the agent of their emotional stimulation. Stir up women's feelings and you are GOLD. That probably goes against what you believe - I bet that you try to present yourself as stable, reliable, settled and predictable, dont ya ? Somewhat like a "good catch" ? How is that working ?? I'm just me, whatever that encompasses, I don't try and present myself as anything other than myself. I'm hardly settled, stable and predictable. I don't know what women like because each man and woman tells me something different from the next one. I'm kinda tired of listening to different ideologies on how to get a woman or in a woman's case a man. Why can't you just be yourself? Why should you have to change to be with someone whom you consider special and vice versa? I love being me and if a woman or women do not like me for whatever reason, then that's their loss. Why should I care? Maybe someone will take a shine to me someday, and maybe no one will, but I'm not into strutting around like a peacock and preening (whatever the hell that is). There's more to my life than just women, sex, dating, relationships and the million problems these things bring. I've worked on my low self-esteem, I'm very happy with who I am and what I look like and I have gotten more confidence, that's enough for me. The site has served its purpose for the time being, I'll be back if I need anymore advice, thanks once again, AVA. Edited March 16, 2008 by Angels&Airwaves
OpenBook Posted March 17, 2008 Posted March 17, 2008 There's more to my life than just women, sex, dating, relationships and the million problems these things bring. I've worked on my low self-esteem, I'm very happy with who I am and what I look like and I have gotten more confidence, that's enough for me. The site has served its purpose for the time being, I'll be back if I need anymore advice, thanks once again, AVA. Well then, good luck to you sir. We gave it our best shot, giving you our valuable advice (which you asked for in the first place!) based on our own life experience of WHAT WORKS. Of course, nothing says you have to take it.
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