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whichwayisup Established Member

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He told G that he and his wife were trying for a baby AFTER he slept with her. Though, he also told G that "his wife" was the one trying, not him. And we all know that was bullcrap, what he tells G about his marriage and his wife isn't what is really going on..

blind_otter Established Member

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...then he should not have had sex, full stop! Not with anyone, his W, his OW, or anyone else who could possibly conceive! Whether he was married or not. Any M having sex at any time needs to take equal responsibility for the possibility that a conception could result, and if he really truly does not wish to spawn, he should ensure that HE makes adequate contraceptive provision to prevent that.

 

I agree, but I think that statement should be re-phrased....

 

Any person having sex at any time needs to take equal responsibility for the possibility that a conception could result, and if he/she really truly does not wish to spawn, he/she should ensure that HE/SHE makes adequate contraceptive provision to prevent that.

 

You know. Just to be fair. It does take 2 people to conceive a child.

nadiaj2727 Established Member

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I realise I'm coming to this discussion late (the internet's been broken here...) but I just can't let this pass without comment.

 

 

 

I've known many women who've only discovered they were pregnant AFTER the first trimester. Many pregnancies are initially asymptomatic - the women have periods (albeit lighter), do not have morning sickness and do not experience breast tenderness. I had a colleague who discovered she was pregnant only when she went into labour.

 

A woman's choice of if, and when, to tell is hers to make, and depends on many factors - including when she finds out herself that she is pregnant.

 

 

 

Abortion is not universally available, even today. Adoption is an emotionally laden choice for many women, depending on the circumstances.

 

For centuries women were forced to support babies they didn't want. Now, finally, most countries have adopted legislation which places the onus on BOTH parents and not just the mother. It's his legal and moral duty to support a child he had half-shares in making. Absolving him and placing the responsibility fully on the mother is a return to dark ages of inequity and oppression.

 

 

 

As could he. Why lay the blame at her door?

 

For the record, I fell pregnant on the Pill. As did several of my friends. It's not infallible, and "99% effective" means that one in every hundred women DO fall pregnant, through contraceptive failure and no fault of their own. If you consider all the millions of women on the Pill, that's a lot of unplanned babies. Why should this be the woman's problem alone?

 

I knew there had to be something out there we agree on OWoman. ;) Your post raises a lot of really good points and is logically reasoned out, unlike Adriadne's posts in my opinion.

 

Silktricks I wasn't saying Adriadne herself was "seriously flawed"... I was saying her statements were because she did not explain her reasoning behind them nor any logical arguments.

blind_otter Established Member

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Of course, but Gwyn is obviously ready to take her part in the responsibility as she has stated. I think that statement was for certain posters who are placing ALL the responsibility on her for not only the child's conception, but future upbringing AND financial obligations.

 

Word. I was just sorta making a blanket statement referring to everyone.

 

One of my friends was talking about hooking up with some guy she just met and I told her almost that exact statement, word for word, so it was on my mind.

OWoman Established Member

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I knew there had to be something out there we agree on OWoman. ;)

 

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nadiaj2727 Established Member

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:eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:

 

:p

 

 

LOL. I think there may be a meteor shower or some other equally as strange and unexpected event today. ;)

MimiMe Established Member

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I have heard people use the term in many different ways. I have heard people say their parents or siblings are their soulmates. Maybe I'm misunderstanding the concept of it.

 

 

Ok yeah, everyone in the past 30yrs of my life lied to me about it then...

 

But here ya go.

 

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herenow Established Member

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Not really. He is legally obligated by the law to pay support unless he gives up his rights. That's the law--not a conveniency for me and / or the babies. He knw what he was getting himself into the minute he put his buddy into my body. That's the risk he took and these are the consequences he's paying.

 

My first response to a child being brought into the world is that it is the ultimate miracle. In a perfect world, every baby would be wanted and loved by both parents and family.

 

We all know this world isn't perfect, but to say that a baby (or babies) is a consequence of a bad risk taken by one or both of his or her parents is the saddest thing I have ever read on this forum. As true as it might be, it's still sad.

MimiMe Established Member

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Hello!!!!!! Are you not reading what I have been typing? Clearly not.

 

I said, once again, that he will make his choice and I will deal with that choice. It's either he's in their life and paying support, or not in their life and giving up his rights with of course no support.

 

Abortion or adoption are Not an option. Sorry, but they just aren't.

 

I'm not going to Make him be responsible for the babies, but he has to understand that if there's no support, then he has to give up his rights. That's the choice he has to make. However, he said to "Rule out not being a part of their lives," and I said, "sure." So, we'll see...

 

This is wasted energy on your part and dont make those babies tight in your womb!!!

Regardless of what he decides, the court WILL ALWAYS mandate a father to pay for child support (of course if they can find him and if he is employed).

You may need to get DNA testing and go through all the process (you never know a person's true colors!! Claws come out!) whatever the process requires but the outcome will be that he has to give a % of his check to those babies.

MimiMe Established Member

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Thank you, Nadia :)

 

Unfortunately, I think we're dealing with a Very Religious and conservative person here who thinks that it's only the man's choice and if not, then abortion or adoption are the answers to this situation. She needs to get out a bit more often and live reality a little more.

 

I just can't beleive her options were to abort or adopt the baby--that's insane to me.

 

 

Religious???? Next to abortion??? NO WAY!!!

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Am I the only one who thinks all this "Gwyn" business is a troll?

 

-slept with married lover what, 1 time? condom fell off, pregnant. Likelihood: not very

-married lover's wife is also pregnant at the same time. Likelihood: not very

-twins! Likelihood: not very, this is 1 in 81 or something like that.

 

Put these all together, I think it's like maybe 1 in a million that this person is telling the truth. More likely it's a pack of provocative posts just to get people riled up.

JackJack Established Member

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Am I the only one who thinks all this "Gwyn" business is a troll?

 

-slept with married lover what, 1 time? condom fell off, pregnant. Likelihood: not very

-married lover's wife is also pregnant at the same time. Likelihood: not very

-twins! Likelihood: not very, this is 1 in 81 or something like that.

 

Put these all together, I think it's like maybe 1 in a million that this person is telling the truth. More likely it's a pack of provocative posts just to get people riled up.

 

I don't know about a troll....but I will say it makes for a very good book to be published, or maybe even a lifetime TV show. :D

MimiMe Established Member

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I don't know about a troll....but I will say it makes for a very good book to be published, or maybe even a lifetime TV show. :D

 

 

Darn it! I dont stand a chance then... Yes, it can sound fabricated but where do you think they get those LIFETIME TV stories?

"where do they find these people" is right!

nadiaj2727 Established Member

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Am I the only one who thinks all this "Gwyn" business is a troll?

 

-slept with married lover what, 1 time? condom fell off, pregnant. Likelihood: not very

-married lover's wife is also pregnant at the same time. Likelihood: not very

-twins! Likelihood: not very, this is 1 in 81 or something like that.

 

Put these all together, I think it's like maybe 1 in a million that this person is telling the truth. More likely it's a pack of provocative posts just to get people riled up.

 

If she's a troll, then I've wasted a lot of time and words having PM conversations with a troll LOL. I agree with you that there are some far-fetched aspects of the stories. Perhaps she has an inventive imagination? Sorry Gwyneth but I did wonder when you made it sound like you only had sex once and during that one time he must have slipped the condom off... then you say it was more than once and he may or may not have worn a condom... etc. You say his wife pushed him down the stairs... then you don't clear that up until people ask and you say she was actually putting salt on the stairs... I'm just saying that sometimes it seems to me that you leave important parts that don't help you out of the story and you exaggerate not as important parts of the story that do help you. I think you are a real person who is going through a lot and perhaps you don't always want to give us the full story right away so you embellish certain parts or minimize certain parts?

 

I also think that a lot of posters must do that... not everyone is going to tell the whole truth or give a full life story on a public Internet forum. So maybe people tweak the truth a little bit?? I don't know. Gwyneth if you have told the truth the whole truth and nothing but the truth then I apologize for suggesting that parts of your story may be a little fabricated or confused. But I don't doubt that you are a real person who had a relationship with MM.

JackJack Established Member

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If she's a troll, then I've wasted a lot of time and words having PM conversations with a troll LOL. I agree with you that there are some far-fetched aspects of the stories. Perhaps she has an inventive imagination? Sorry Gwyneth but I did wonder when you made it sound like you only had sex once and during that one time he must have slipped the condom off... then you say it was more than once and he may or may not have worn a condom... etc. You say his wife pushed him down the stairs... then you don't clear that up until people ask and you say she was actually putting salt on the stairs... I'm just saying that sometimes it seems to me that you leave important parts that don't help you out of the story and you exaggerate not as important parts of the story that do help you. I think you are a real person who is going through a lot and perhaps you don't always want to give us the full story right away so you embellish certain parts or minimize certain parts?

 

I also think that a lot of posters must do that... not everyone is going to tell the whole truth or give a full life story on a public Internet forum. So maybe people tweak the truth a little bit?? I don't know. Gwyneth if you have told the truth the whole truth and nothing but the truth then I apologize for suggesting that parts of your story may be a little fabricated or confused. But I don't doubt that you are a real person who had a relationship with MM.

 

 

This was my thinking as well. I don't think or know if she is a troll.....probably not...however....my beef with the story is, its forever changing. Of course most all things do. :)

 

What I mean is...she can say one thing...get a few replies.....get peoples attention sparked...yadda yadda yadda...then WHAM all of a sudden there is a totally different twist.....rumor, and yes she did say rumor was...he was pushed down the stairs by his wife...this went on for a good while until he got out of the hospital....then oops it was his wife that had salted the steps that he fell down, and that it was more than likely not intentional after all....

 

THen I was thinking and not clear on..she had said they had sex once and got pregnant...then heard it was more than once...and so on and so on..like I said ever changing. And there is most of the time a answer...a good well thought out answer to most all replies. That is the ones she cares to grace an answer with...becasue maybe some are worth answering and some are not because there is no well thought out answer at the time.

 

Of course it is people's right to skip right on over what ever questions one feels like not answering. :)

whichwayisup Established Member

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My only train of thought on this still is, (and I know G will disagree with me, and that's okay) but she spent MONTHS posting thread after thread about MM, her soulmate, her love but has claimed all along she wasn't inlove with him. I guess if it was "just" a friendship, she certainly has put ALOT of energy, thought and time into him and their 'friendship' (not affair). But, not much of that matters now, she has her pregnancy and soon her baby(ies), and that will take up pretty much all her time so her focus won't be on MM, his wife and what they're doing.

JackJack Established Member

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My only train of thought on this still is, (and I know G will disagree with me, and that's okay) but she spent MONTHS posting thread after thread about MM, her soulmate, her love but has claimed all along she wasn't inlove with him. I guess if it was "just" a friendship, she certainly has put ALOT of energy, thought and time into him and their 'friendship' (not affair). But, not much of that matters now, she has her pregnancy and soon her baby(ies), and that will take up pretty much all her time so her focus won't be on MM, his wife and what they're doing.

 

 

I agree. :)

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Gwyneth Established Member

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Sorry, but I'm not a troll. Unfortunately, this is my sucky dramatic life. I certainly don't have to defend myself or tell every detail about my sex life and pregnancy.I also don't have to stand here and read this garbage that I'm a troll. And I don't feel I have to prove myself around here either.

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Sorry Gwyneth but I did wonder when you made it sound like you only had sex once and during that one time he must have slipped the condom off... then you say it was more than once and he may or may not have worn a condom... etc.

 

My take on this is that she purposely got pregnant by that guy.

 

Maybe he is well off and she wanted to have him father the baby.

 

Also, to pull a fast one to the wife.

 

That guy never intended to have a baby with her.

 

I'm also pretty sure that if the guy doesn't want anything to do with the kid and gives up his rights... she'll sue him for money no matter what.

 

Now that she got pregnant, she's dating someone else.

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Sorry, but I'm not a troll. Unfortunately, this is my sucky dramatic life. I certainly don't have to defend myself or tell every detail about my sex life and pregnancy.I also don't have to stand here and read this garbage that I'm a troll. And I don't feel I have to prove myself around here either.

 

You are not a troll. I'm sorry for situation. however your a strong woman, you will get through this. Hold your head up and keep a smile!:)

 

AP:)

nadiaj2727 Established Member

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My take on this is that she purposely got pregnant by that guy.

 

Maybe he is well off and she wanted to have him father the baby.

 

Also, to pull a fast one to the wife.

 

That guy never intended to have a baby with her.

 

I'm also pretty sure that if the guy doesn't want anything to do with the kid and gives up his rights... she'll sue him for money no matter what.

 

Now that she got pregnant, she's dating someone else.

 

I don't think she got pregnant for the sake of money. Maybe subconsiously there was a desire to get him to be with her or pick her over his wife and that's why she wasn't super careful. But I can't speak on her behalf, she says it was an accident -- meaning, not being careful enough to not get pregnant. That does happen unfortunately. It has happened to me before and now I am super careful because I would never want to have someone's baby unless we were completely in love and committed to each other and planning to have a family. But she's not me. Some people get pregnant to someone they don't want to have a child with and then have the child anyway -- I'm not sure why, because I don't have that view... I guess it's like an anti-abortion or an anti-adoption view, like, "If I get pregnant I should have the baby and raise it, no matter what the circumstances." I don't have that view so it wouldn't happen to me, but it does happen all the time. And it's her right and her choice, just like all the other rights and choices that exist (thank goodness!).

 

Maybe on some level she wanted to be pregnant to him -- especially when he told her in the past that he could imagine her being pregnant and he would like that -- or maybe it was completely never planned one bit. The fact is that now she's pregnant and there's a little baby or two coming into this world and they should be the focus.

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OWoman Established Member

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Am I the only one who thinks all this "Gwyn" business is a troll?

 

yes. It would appear so.

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I don`t care what century we are in but it is mostly the womens responsibilty to avoid pregnacy. That is just the way it is. A man can zip up his pants and walk away. You dont wanna get pregnant make sure your using something or dont have sex with the guy and make sure IF you are using something and you get pregnant you can support and raise the child.

 

And to say if he doesnt pay support he cant see the child well sweety he does have legal rights even if he doesnt pay child support. It isnt a pay as you go deal here.

Ariadne Established Member

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I don't think she got pregnant for the sake of money. Maybe subconsiously there was a desire to get him to be with her or pick her over his wife... she says it was an accident -- meaning, not being careful enough to not get pregnant.

 

Oh, come on.

 

Either she wanted to get money out of him, or to ruin him financially out of spite. And to spite the wife with a preganancy.

 

And now she wants to demand the guy to tell the wife: Dear, there is something I need to tell you... There is another woman in my life. It is an emotional and physical affair, we have been having sex for 5 months. And now, she and I are expecting a baby!

 

Or something horrible along those lines.

 

I don't believe for a second that this was an accident.

 

And now she comes with the famous phrase of all times: That's the risk he took and these are the consequences he's paying.

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Oh, come on.

 

Either she wanted to get money out of him, or to ruin him financially out of spite. And to spite the wife with a preganancy.

 

And now she wants to demand the guy to tell the wife: Dear, there is something I need to tell you... There is another woman in my life. It is an emotional and physical affair, we have been having sex for 5 months. And now, she and I are expecting a baby!

 

Or something horrible along those lines.

 

I don't believe for a second that this was an accident.

 

And now she comes with the famous phrase of all times: That's the risk he took and these are the consequences he's paying.

 

 

You must be right. Because what woman wouldn't want to be pregnant with a MM's baby - and at the same time the MM's W is? What a fairytale! :rolleyes:

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