juliebijoux Posted March 4, 2008 Posted March 4, 2008 So I met this guy at New Years party, a few weeks later he found me through a friend and got my number. Then he calls and we go out. Everything is fine. He likes history, specifically WWII history, which I am interested in too. We had a great time and talked a lot on our date. Later his friend texted me and said that my date was smiling a lot while talking about how the date went. Well, while I was waiting for him to call me again, I googled him. From there I found that he used to post on this White Nationalism forum (his last post was about a year ago). I just feel so awful because I thougth that it would turn out ok. Nothing that he said to me on our date really said anything like, "OH, by the way I feel that white people are the supreme race." Seriously, why me?
Nocturnal Posted March 4, 2008 Posted March 4, 2008 Ask him about it and decide after that what to do, I wouldn't jump to conclusions, people do change.
xpaperxcutx Posted March 4, 2008 Posted March 4, 2008 I think you might just be overreacting a little. Sometimes people are different in life than they are online. If you feel disturbed by it, then you should ask him about it. Make it like a casual conversation, since he like WW2 so much, bring up the Holocaust and the Nazi idealism. See how he responds to them.
xpaperxcutx Posted March 4, 2008 Posted March 4, 2008 (edited) Did you read what he posted?? Who might you be referring to? IF you were referring to me, I'm actually a she, but that's besides the point. Yes, I did read the post, but my opinion on this is that OP might be overreacting just a little. She's having a great time with a guy she's only recently met, yet she would so curious to check up on him by googling him online. How is that not overreacting? She's having a great time with him yet she feels the need to check up on his background. Until you know the person very well, I say give them the benefit of the doubt. Opps nvm, I realized your question was directed at OP. Edited March 4, 2008 by xpaperxcutx
Star Gazer Posted March 4, 2008 Posted March 4, 2008 She's having a great time with a guy she's only recently met, yet she would so curious to check up on him by googling him online. How is that not overreacting? She's having a great time with him yet she feels the need to check up on his background. Until you know the person very well, I say give them the benefit of the doubt. I don't agree. Don't we all Google the people we're dating? How is the simple act of Googling someone overreacting? I'm confused about that. You actually can have a great time hanging out with someone who you share diametrically opposing viewpoints with. However, if you find out - sooner than later - that these viewpoints are deal breakers for you, why continue on? If you simply Googled a person and found out they were a convicted child molester, would that be overreacting? Found out they had been convicted of fraud? Were a member of a cult? Would it be overreacting to question him about it? I really don't think so. And don't you think people tend to me MORE honest online in forums like this than IRL? He very well might be posting on a white supremacist website because that's the only place where he feels he can be himself and freely speak as he feels.
Author juliebijoux Posted March 5, 2008 Author Posted March 5, 2008 Thanks for all of your replies! I think that if he calls me again, I will be honest with what I found, and ask him his views. Ultimately though, he would have been on the white nationalist site whether or not I had googled him. I did read some of what he wrote and the posts I read were not really ideological statements, more trying to meet similar-minded people offline.
Cobra_X30 Posted March 5, 2008 Posted March 5, 2008 If you simply Googled a person and found out they were a convicted child molester, would that be overreacting? Found out they had been convicted of fraud? Were a member of a cult? Would it be overreacting to question him about it? I really don't think so. And don't you think people tend to me MORE honest online in forums like this than IRL? He very well might be posting on a white supremacist website because that's the only place where he feels he can be himself and freely speak as he feels. I googled my friend John Smith. Turns out he lives in all 50 states... at the same time. Must be rich. Also turns out he lies to everyone about his age! Take what you see online at face value and no more! There are people out there who share names.... and some that impersonate others when espousing extremist views. You should be well aware of this fact already!
Author juliebijoux Posted March 5, 2008 Author Posted March 5, 2008 Yeah, but he posted his picture, his AIM sn, and his email. He writes the same way that he texts. Someone must really want to be this guy....
burning 4 revenge Posted March 5, 2008 Posted March 5, 2008 (edited) If he's posted on StormFront that doesn't make him a white supremacist. They have some really good historical debates there sometimes Maybe you should start humming Deustchland Uber Alles and if he gets a sentimental expression in his face and starts singing along with you then maybe there is a problem Edited March 5, 2008 by burning 4 revenge
tanbark813 Posted March 5, 2008 Posted March 5, 2008 I agree with others who say you shouldn't jump to conclusions. A white nationalist is different than a white supremacist. If he were black and posting on an NAACP forum would you assume he were a black supremacist? One of the unfortunate reverse racist things about today's world is that the white race is the only one that's not PC with which to identify.
pajamaman Posted March 5, 2008 Posted March 5, 2008 "OH, by the way I feel that white people are the supreme race." that quote alone would be a major indication that he view himself superior to non-whites and a red flag IMO, unless you agree with his statement.
Nevermind Posted March 5, 2008 Posted March 5, 2008 Burning4revenge: Stormfront is owned by a former member of the KKK and member of the American nazi party. But hey, let's just check out what they write: Mh. Jewess admits on Oprah show to having sacrificed babies during religious rituals Makes me want to vomit. This is in the revisionist forum. Your history section? Off-Topic, I apologize. --------------- OP, I am glad you're going to ask him. I would do the same, and if he was indeed a white nationalist/supremacist I'd run as fast as I can.
RecordProducer Posted March 5, 2008 Posted March 5, 2008 Let us see the forum and his posts and we'll tell you whether to date him or not. I agree that one shouldn't jump into conclusions, but I'll jump into this conclusion: from your post it's not clear what exactly makes him a racist and what his views are. Was he in love with a girl who posted there and he posted something neutral just to get to her? Did his jealous ex-GF post in his name, knowing that everybody googles everybody - just to ruin some potential relationship, a prospective job or a scholarship for Yale? Unless he posted ugly stuff multiple times, ask him about this in a way that will make him reveal his true colors. Seriously, why me?Because you're Caucasian? Why NOT you?
burning 4 revenge Posted March 5, 2008 Posted March 5, 2008 Burning4revenge: Stormfront is owned by a former member of the KKK and member of the American nazi party. But hey, let's just check out what they write: Mh. Makes me want to vomit. This is in the revisionist forum. Your history section? Off-Topic, I apologize. Well obviously that's not one of their more provacative threads, but theyve had some really good ones dealing with WW2, everything from military tactics to German politics to allegations of war crimes by the Allies. Theyre a racist, antisemitic site, but I've posted there as a liberal, so just because he's posted there it doesn't mean he's WN that's all Im saying
Ocean-Blue Posted March 5, 2008 Posted March 5, 2008 Thanks for all of your replies! I think that if he calls me again, I will be honest with what I found, and ask him his views. Ultimately though, he would have been on the white nationalist site whether or not I had googled him. I did read some of what he wrote and the posts I read were not really ideological statements, more trying to meet similar-minded people offline. I think this is a good way to go about things. Being honest w/ him about what you read is probably the best way to get past this. You can never know...people change, etc. However, be ready to answer possible questions/discomfort regarding your perusal of the www for info on him. He may not like it. But as SG said, we all google people up.
Author juliebijoux Posted March 5, 2008 Author Posted March 5, 2008 I want to be honest with him, but you are right that he will probably feel violated that I googled him. Now, I am kind of hoping that he will not call because I sort of want to move on. From the looks of it, he posted on the site about 300 times over the past like 6 years, and it made me feel sick to keep on reading everything he wrote, so I stopped. But his signature is: "Once you go black, we don't want you back. -Me If you're not white, you're not right. -Who knows"
Star Gazer Posted March 5, 2008 Posted March 5, 2008 I want to be honest with him, but you are right that he will probably feel violated that I googled him. Now, I am kind of hoping that he will not call because I sort of want to move on. If he feels violated, that's silly. EVERYONE Googles people. These days you should assume people Google you too. But his signature is: "Once you go black, we don't want you back. -Me If you're not white, you're not right. -Who knows" I'd feel sick reading that too.
Author juliebijoux Posted March 5, 2008 Author Posted March 5, 2008 Thanks everybody for listening. I think that I am just saddened b/c this guy is best friends with my friend's husband. I would think that at least some of the crazy stuff would be filtered out. This is one of the reasons that I am hesistant to actually meet guys that I have met online. But hey, at least I found this forum, and people here seem to have good dating advice that I can now use to move onto other stuff:)
RecordProducer Posted March 5, 2008 Posted March 5, 2008 From the looks of it, he posted on the site about 300 times over the past like 6 years, and it made me feel sick to keep on reading everything he wrote, so I stopped. But his signature is: "Once you go black, we don't want you back. -Me If you're not white, you're not right. -Who knows" Oh, OK. We get the picture. Well... is he worth mentioning? It's just a weird ending, I know. It'd be more normal if he turned out gay or married or moving to New Zealand next month. This way, it's kinda... unexpected. But think of it this way: he is apparently closed-minded, mean, arrogant, bad-mannered, stupid... Imagine if he weren't a racist. He would still be all that, but you'd find out after he breaks your heart. So all is cool. You asked the crystal ball and it told you NOT to go for him. You did a good job googling him. Smart girl.
Northstar1984 Posted March 10, 2008 Posted March 10, 2008 Who cares what he is? I don't agree with his opinions, but they're his opinions. There is a dire amount of hypocrisy in this world if we can decide what people should think, when in the same breath we cite freedom and tolerance as our reasoning. Doesn't make sense, does it?
burning 4 revenge Posted March 10, 2008 Posted March 10, 2008 You shold ask him what he thinks about the "November criminals" and then report his answer back to us
johan Posted March 10, 2008 Posted March 10, 2008 I agree with others who say you shouldn't jump to conclusions. A white nationalist is different than a white supremacist. If he were black and posting on an NAACP forum would you assume he were a black supremacist? One of the unfortunate reverse racist things about today's world is that the white race is the only one that's not PC with which to identify. You might be right. I have to say, however, that this particular inequity, if it exists, doesn't cramp my style a whole lot.
burning 4 revenge Posted March 10, 2008 Posted March 10, 2008 You might be right. I have to say, however, that this particular inequity, if it exists, doesn't cramp my style a whole lot.I think it is PC, it's just people get more specific with it Tan has talked about being Irish-American, lots of people talk about being proud Italian-Americans, Jewish-Americans, German-Americans etc The only people who never speak up are the English-Americans, but that's because they are ashamed to see England decaying
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