LuCidiTy Posted April 1, 2008 Posted April 1, 2008 Is that like believing in the holy spirit, or angels? What if you aren't the type of person who is satisfied by blind faith? Sure you don't need to see it, but how are you sure that it happens at all? It's like an athlete who gets injured every once in a while. It's probably not going to keep him from competing as long as it doesn't happen too frequently. I've seen some things that someone might interpret as karma a few times, but usually a freak incident or pretty obviously the fallout from some unraveling, instability or crisis that the person is experiencing and that person's wrongdoings were more often the result of that in the first place than anything else. Life isn't fair. Bad people do bad things to good people and get what they want from them most of the time. i wouldn't say it's so much believing in those things or blind faith. it's really drawn more from observation of what guilt and bad deeds really do to people. karma like conscience always catches up to you. and karma isn't bad and isn't good, really, to my understanding and in my experience. it just is.
LuCidiTy Posted April 1, 2008 Posted April 1, 2008 I think we use different terminology but I can definitely buy that. I feel like passing responsibility or desire off for some magical force to deal with is kind of silly. again, it's not a magical force. it's more in the realm of the human psyche.
Chanke4252 Posted April 1, 2008 Posted April 1, 2008 (edited) i wouldn't say it's so much believing in those things or blind faith. it's really drawn more from observation of what guilt and bad deeds really do to people. karma like conscience always catches up to you. and karma isn't bad and isn't good, really, to my understanding and in my experience. it just is. Some people feel remorse for bad deeds, but rationalization and denial are powerful forces. I am continuously astounded by people's ability to almost totally shed responsibility for their actions. Everyone (I hope) knows that caricature of a person who is able to totally turn something around to make into someone else's fault after THEY were the ones who did something like cheating or stealing, or rape for that matter. It's sad, but they are out there, and there are more of them than you are probably aware of. Sure, some people feel bad for things they have done to people, but it's a sliding scale. The more you can rationalize and deny, the more you can get away with and sleep at night. Very few people really think that they are bad people. Kind of disgusting when you think about it and the very reason that I constantly put great effort into examining myself to make sure I don't become one of those people. Edited April 1, 2008 by Chanke4252
Chinook Posted April 1, 2008 Posted April 1, 2008 Karma is a perception (imho). How would you know 'they got theirs' if you don't even know when or what happened to them...? How do they know 'they got theirs' if they aren't seeing what happens to them in the context of your hurt...? Crappy stuff happens, it doesn't happen to right a wrong that was done - stuff just happens that way. If it was the case of righting a wrong, people who break up in the first place and one didn't want to, are being punished for doing something wrong which and it's now being righted...?! Um that's crazy logic. There are actions and consequences for each of our actions. So when your ex cheats on you with someone else and you end the relationship... they're succumbing to their base desires which makes them less of a moral person. It also deprives them of a good person as their partner and replaces that partner with a person who is similar to themselves... in short, they get what they deserve. Down the line, that will have it's own consequences. hm, not sure I'm making sense
Rooster_DAR Posted April 1, 2008 Posted April 1, 2008 I was just wondering.. does anybody believe in Karma??? If you have any stories were your ex did you wrong in your relationship (left you for somebody else etc) and ended up having karma in that relationship they left you for.. please post here. Or any stories of Karma with your ex.. please post. THANK YOU! Well, that's a matter of perspective. Being that most relationships fail in the long term, I guess that would be a yes. I wouldn't call it Karma however, it's just the odds in your favor. Cheers!
LakesideDream Posted April 1, 2008 Posted April 1, 2008 No, I don't believe in Karma. In my personal experiance my ex who cheated for 23 years of our 25 year marriage left with her long term affair partner and has lived happily ever after. No negetive consequences whatsoever. I have three male friends who have experianced the "walk away wife" syndrome in the last five years all three were married to the same women for at least 25 years, all three had successfully raised their children to young adulthood. All three of their "ex's" are living happily ever after with their lovers. All three men were left to try and rebuild lives that were torn to shreds after long term marriages were abruptly trashed. Some here have said Karma takes time. Hell, if it does, at my age I'm not libel to live to see the results. Karma = Humbug. We live in a time where actions have little or no consequences. There are no limits to what society condones short of child molestion, or in some cases murder.
Chanke4252 Posted April 1, 2008 Posted April 1, 2008 No, I don't believe in Karma. In my personal experiance my ex who cheated for 23 years of our 25 year marriage left with her long term affair partner and has lived happily ever after. No negetive consequences whatsoever. I have three male friends who have experianced the "walk away wife" syndrome in the last five years all three were married to the same women for at least 25 years, all three had successfully raised their children to young adulthood. All three of their "ex's" are living happily ever after with their lovers. All three men were left to try and rebuild lives that were torn to shreds after long term marriages were abruptly trashed. Some here have said Karma takes time. Hell, if it does, at my age I'm not libel to live to see the results. Karma = Humbug. We live in a time where actions have little or no consequences. There are no limits to what society condones short of child molestion, or in some cases murder. Society just has a little bit of a learning disability. If anything it condones indifference, and blaming others for your own problems.
Far Behind Posted April 2, 2008 Posted April 2, 2008 I haven't read the thread just responding to the title...I hope that if there is, and what goes around comes around, then the bastard that just did to me what he did to me, and you can read it all in the prince charming thread if you want to, well I hope he gets what he justly deserves!
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