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Here is a story where siblings married without knowing they were related.

 

http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/news/article-23431996-details/Twins+separated+at+birth+marry+each+other+WITHOUT+knowing+they+are+brother+and+sister/article.do

 

With the rise of single parents, sperm donors, adoption or birth certificates (without named father), abandonment and unknown pregnancies (to the father) that goes on. I think this might happen more often then we would like to believe. Or could.

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With the rise of single parents, sperm donors, adoption or birth certificates (without named father), abandonment and unknown pregnancies (to the father) that goes on. I think this might happen more often then we would like to believe. Or could.

 

Or it could be a blessing in disguise, depending on your point of view.

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I am rather curious as to why it doesn't happen more often, it seems only natural to develop the strongest relationship with the one you are around the most and is in your age range.

 

I personally don't have any sisters, and I don't personality wise like any of my female cousins, but it would be a lie to say that I didn't view them as physically attractive at some level.

 

I am not saying inbreeding should be actively sought out, I am simply saying that the taboo around it is unjustified, not to mention anyone here would be lying to say they haven't ever thought of something sexual involving a family member at some level.

 

If I was separated from a theoretical long lost sister and later married her not knowing we were related I personally would not be bothered by it, if anything I would get two for the price of one, a sister and a wife.

 

I would rather have a brother and a sister get married and produce a child if they were in a committed loving relationship then a slut ****s a random guy and a kid pops out.

 

If you start inbreeding many times over then birth defects can occur, but once is not enough to cause any damage.

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This is all theory to you, Arch. Because if you had a sister you would most likely feel completely sickened by the idea. If you were in the .00001% of the population who wasn't, then chances are you sister would be completely repulsed. And if you and she were in the .000000001% of the population of siblings who were actually interested in each other, you would be living somewhere deep in the Appalachians with no internet access not posting here.

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Arch, you're right. It does happen.

 

I distinctly remember my third cousin chasing me around my own bedroom as a young child. My parents have repeatedly mentioned his interest in my life 30 + years later. Is a third cousin considered incestuous? I always felt so, but maybe I just haven't been loved enough. :confused:

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This is all theory to you, Arch. Because if you had a sister you would most likely feel completely sickened by the idea. If you were in the .00001% of the population who wasn't, then chances are you sister would be completely repulsed. And if you and she were in the .000000001% of the population of siblings who were actually interested in each other, you would be living somewhere deep in the Appalachians with no internet access not posting here.

 

So whats your stance on the British couple who didn't know they were sister/brother until they tried to get married, are you repulsed? are you ok with it? do you not care?

 

Not much repulses me, I say anythings a go as long as everyone involved is at the legal age of consent and wants to be participating. I personally have my own standards but I couldn't care less what other people do as long as its within those guidelines.

 

People make judgments to quickly based upon what they have been taught without asking themselves if there is a good reason for what they think.

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So whats your stance on the British couple who didn't know they were sister/brother until they tried to get married, are you repulsed? are you ok with it? do you not care?

 

I think they should be shot and their bodies burned and the ashes added to the concrete used to make a septic tank for a prison.

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I personally have my own standards but I couldn't care less what other people do as long as its within those guidelines.

 

People make judgments to quickly based upon what they have been taught without asking themselves if there is a good reason for what they think.

So, what are YOUR standards? We all have our own, many of which have been shared.

 

As for the European (British) couple I think they would have felt differently had they known their background. Assuming they didn't change their opinion (I would have FREAKED OUT!) I guess to each their own.

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So, what are YOUR standards? We all have our own, many of which have been shared.

 

As for the European (British) couple I think they would have felt differently had they known their background. Assuming they didn't change their opinion (I would have FREAKED OUT!) I guess to each their own.

 

Whats the difference if they came out of the same vagina or a different one. They love each other or at least did love each other like husband/wife, Why is that so wrong? Why should they feel differently?

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Whats the difference if they came out of the same vagina or a different one. They love each other or at least did love each other like husband/wife, Why is that so wrong? Why should they feel differently?

 

They wouldn't share the same DNA, that's the difference. :rolleyes:

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They wouldn't share the same DNA, that's the difference. :rolleyes:

 

We all share nearly the same DNA, and what impact does that have?

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We all share nearly the same DNA, and what impact does that have?

Do we? How do I share the same DNA as, for instance, an Ethiopian? Trace my roots, please.

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Do we? How do I share the same DNA as, for instance, an Ethiopian? Trace my roots, please.

 

Humans and chimps are 98% identical, your and my DNA is so much, much closer then that, If you are from northern European(Sweden, Norway) decent we would be even closer.

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Arch, you're trying to make this a major debate. It's not. It's not like abortion where the world is greatly divided and it's worth debating for major human rights reasons.

 

And you say no one has given a "satisfactory" reason. Sorry that no one has satisfied you, but everyone has given their reasons, AND admitted that they are mostly based upon society and how we were raised. How is that not satisfactory? It's the truth. Are you trying to make everyone question what they've been raised upon...to delve deeper into their personal belief system and question it?

 

I mean, COME ON, it's incest. It's something that WON'T be missed if it never existed again.

 

Yes, it does happen sometimes where people don't realize they are related and meet and fall in love. And maybe they should be allowed to be together. But WHERE does the line get drawn? So, say that couple in Britain has children. What if their children want to marry and procreate, and so on and so on. Do you keep allowing it because they are consenting?

 

And why do they have to get married? I'd say fight for homosexual rights before incest rights.

 

I have an older brother. I typically date men 4-5 years older than me, and he falls right into that range. I find him physically attractive as he's a very good looking man. He's intelligent, graduated second highest in his class. He has a great job and is financially stable. Owns a home, has nice things, nice vehicles, etc. But I, in no way, could ever be even remotely sexually attracted to him. I get physically ill thinking about that. And in no way could I ever consider finding lifelong companionship in him for the same reason. I do love him, and have a great relationship with him as brother and sister.

 

Now, you keep saying it takes years of inbreeding to cause defects. I don't know enough about science to prove or disprove this. I'll take your word on it. Apparently some states in the US allow cousin marriages and some allow them if the couple will not bear children http://www.cousincouples.com/info/states.shtml I don't live in one of those states, and I am ok with that.

 

Many laws are questionable and debatable. I think you're choosing a silly one to go on a tirade about.

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Humans and chimps are 98% identical, your and my DNA is so much, much closer then that, If you are from northern European(Sweden, Norway) decent we would be even closer.

Prince Charles is a strong argument for not interbreeding...

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Here is a story where siblings married without knowing they were related.

 

http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/news/article-23431996-details/Twins+separated+at+birth+marry+each+other+WITHOUT+knowing+they+are+brother+and+sister/article.do

 

With the rise of single parents, sperm donors, adoption or birth certificates (without named father), abandonment and unknown pregnancies (to the father) that goes on. I think this might happen more often then we would like to believe. Or could.

 

This is a good point. More and more it will become likely that you could unknowingly meet and fall for a relative. So what do we do? DNA test before each relationship? The background info isn't always available for people to check it out, and should they have to everytime they meet someone? So how do we deal with it?

 

I was actually thinking back to the couple in Britain that tried to get married but found out they were brother/sister separated at birth. I honestly say let them get married.

 

I actually felt sorry for that couple. They didn't know they were related?

 

They were twins, not surprising they might have felt 'pulled' together. I can't find anything that even states they knew they had a twin, and if they did, what's the likelyhood they thought, 'oh, this person might be my twin, I'd better check that out.'!!!

 

They weren't raised together, they never knew they were brother/sister. In way it does seem sad they've now lost each other. I wonder how finding out effected them?

 

I think there's a huge difference when talking about this between suddenly one day fancying 'doing' your sister, and a couple like above who never knew they were related. A freak chance of meeting each other.

 

And reading up about GSA was interesting too. Although they do tend to know from the get go that they are related, therefore it is clearly incest and go into it knowing that.

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Thank you all for your responses, but no one yet has answered the question. I am looking for someone that has been through something like this (meeting your sib as an adult and having an affair of the heart or more in a romantic way)

 

Where we live you can marry your first cousin and that is gross to me as well. I have a gorgeous cousin, but could never be romantic with him....I am looking for brother and sister EA and or PA information.....my H tells me he loves her very much, but not like I thought he did....BUT, if you look at my threads (especially the taped conversation) I still believe there has to be more to the story, maybe NOT.

 

Is it possible to love your new sibling (the missing piece you have been searching for) so much to be obsessed and talk to them more emotionally and deeply than you do your spouse. Meaning, think of them more, call them more, they become the center of your life? They said they were just getting to know each other, I have no idea....THAT IS WHY I POSTED THE QUESTION.....

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I would rather have a brother and a sister get married and produce a child if they were in a committed loving relationship then a slut ****s a random guy and a kid pops out.

 

Okay, well, the chances of having a disabled or retarded child is MUCH greater when you impregnant your sister.

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Okay, well, the chances of having a disabled or retarded child is MUCH greater when you impregnant your sister.

 

I would say the odds are much lower with first generation incest then if the mother used any type of drug or drank alcohol, or gave the kid vaccines . If you want to start a thread called causes of retardation we can go all out.

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Ok, I'm done posting to this thread after this mainly because I am feeling bad that I'm contributing to it's off topic-ness.

 

BUT...wouldn't you hate to be the kid in school that draws a picture of your family and when explaining it to the teacher saying "This is my Aunt Mom, this is my Uncle Dad, this is my Cousin Brother, and my Cousin Sister."

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I agree, this is not what this topic was suppose to be about....I was looking for help, not if someone agrees or disagrees with incest..... !

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Thank you all for your responses, but no one yet has answered the question. I am looking for someone that has been through something like this (meeting your sib as an adult and having an affair of the heart or more in a romantic way)

 

Where we live you can marry your first cousin and that is gross to me as well. I have a gorgeous cousin, but could never be romantic with him....I am looking for brother and sister EA and or PA information.....my H tells me he loves her very much, but not like I thought he did....BUT, if you look at my threads (especially the taped conversation) I still believe there has to be more to the story, maybe NOT.

 

Is it possible to love your new sibling (the missing piece you have been searching for) so much to be obsessed and talk to them more emotionally and deeply than you do your spouse. Meaning, think of them more, call them more, they become the center of your life? They said they were just getting to know each other, I have no idea....THAT IS WHY I POSTED THE QUESTION.....

 

That GSA board I posted has forums where you can speak to exactly the type of people you're looking for! :)

 

I don't think you'll find many people like that on this board. But there are actual people on that forum that are in relationships or are suffering the feeling of wanting relationships with siblings/relatives they have just met. They are also welcoming and open to people in your position and will be able to help you understand their feelings.

 

There are some good stories on there to help you see how they end up in that situation.

 

Please take a look, I really think it would help you.

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Thanks little Kitty, I have seen that site before, but cannot access it at work and I have just moved and do not have internet access as of yet (live in the boonies ) I am sure they can help me in one way or another, and I somewhat understand how it can happen by looking into GSA a long time ago. I actually printed the core of it and gave it to my H, he was mad as h--- and said I was crazy and to never give him crap like that again.

 

He still said he did not have feelings like that for her and he has never crossed any line with her....so maybe I am craz, who the f--- knows now !

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Thanks little Kitty, I have seen that site before, but cannot access it at work and I have just moved and do not have internet access as of yet (live in the boonies ) I am sure they can help me in one way or another, and I somewhat understand how it can happen by looking into GSA a long time ago. I actually printed the core of it and gave it to my H, he was mad as h--- and said I was crazy and to never give him crap like that again.

 

He still said he did not have feelings like that for her and he has never crossed any line with her....so maybe I am craz, who the f--- knows now !

 

How are you on here if you don't have internet access?

Or do you mean at home, because you don't want to use your work internet for research?

 

I recall your posts, your husband was definitely involved with her. Stuff about whispering and catching them under the porch, really shocking things.

 

He doesn't admit it because then he would be "that guy who is having an affair with his sister" so by denying all of it, he doesn't have to think of himself like that.

 

And yes CJ, it happens. I read once about a girl who was dating a guy who seemed to be attracted to hisi sister, a lot of flirtations that made her break up with him.

 

Another guy once wrote about getting an erection when he would see his sister walking around in a tight white tee. It's not unheard of, it's not impossible, it happens. I only mentioned those examples because you asked something a few posts above about it. I don't think people like to be honest with themselves when it does happen though.

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