ElvenPriestess Posted January 30, 2008 Posted January 30, 2008 So you'd take a date there on your 3rd date? And expect her to pay? Hey if they both enjoyed themselves. And the paying bit is such a petty thing to get THAT worked up over. She paid her own way, let it go.
blind_otter Posted January 30, 2008 Posted January 30, 2008 No offense, but I always expect the guy to pay...until I'm in an established relationship with him, he has to court me. I'm jus old fashioned that way.
Author Cad Rake Posted January 30, 2008 Author Posted January 30, 2008 No no no no you see Cad is not unaware of his actions, like he needs to be taught humility or more consideration. It is all a test, because if the girl comes back then he can assure that it will result in a meaningless relationship/sex for him. So he is actually upset that this one stayed away, because he likes to pick the low esteem ones to assure they will go along with his plans, and cater to his whims to be added to his harem, right Cad? Well you're not far off, but it's not quite as.. depraved.. as you make it out to be. "Meaningless" is a bit of a loaded term. I mean, in the end, all of life is "meaningless." But let's not hijack the thread. Fact of the matter was I did feel the emotions of disappointment, anger, frustration, and scorn toward this girl. It wasn't all a show, nor a conscious attempt to get anything from her. It was more of a ... here I am, alone again.. kind of feeling.
Jilly Bean Posted January 30, 2008 Posted January 30, 2008 So you'd take a date there on your 3rd date? And expect her to pay? I'm a woman, so I don't take men on dates, but I have NO problem suggesting a casual place for lunch - even if it's an early date. And yes, I have never opened my wallet on a date. Years ago, I dated a guy who on our first date, took me to a very high-end place - $65 Kobe beef entree type place. Second date, I had to go to a laundromat to get a comforter washed for an impending houseguest, so he took me, and we washed the blanket together, then walked next door to grab a pizza in a hole in the wall. I LOVED both dates, and I loved the fact that he was able to take me out for a lovely dinner AND also hang out with me while I had real-life errands to run. Showed me how real he was, instead of always needing to put on a poser show.
Author Cad Rake Posted January 30, 2008 Author Posted January 30, 2008 And I appreciate those women chiming in who ALWAYS expect the guy to pay. But I'm no sugar daddy, I don't do that. And those who ALWAYS expect the guy to "court" them. But I don't do that either. And I know I know right right right we wouldn't be compatible. Believe me there aren't a lot of women I'm compatible with. But it does seem that most if not all of y'all have sided with her. And that's fine. I expected more 50/50 but hey, it's a learning experience right? That's what we're here for.
ElvenPriestess Posted January 30, 2008 Posted January 30, 2008 I mean, in the end, all of life is "meaningless." Fact of the matter was I did feel the emotions of disappointment, anger, frustration, and scorn toward this girl. again.. kind of feeling. Wow, such a wonderful view on life there, and now you take it out on others like her. Those are string emotions considering she did nothing wrong but not live up to your high standards and high maintenance.
Jilly Bean Posted January 30, 2008 Posted January 30, 2008 Believe me there aren't a lot of women I'm compatible with. Ya think?
Florida Posted January 30, 2008 Posted January 30, 2008 Well you're not far off, but it's not quite as.. depraved.. as you make it out to be. "Meaningless" is a bit of a loaded term. I mean, in the end, all of life is "meaningless." But let's not hijack the thread. Fact of the matter was I did feel the emotions of disappointment, anger, frustration, and scorn toward this girl. It wasn't all a show, nor a conscious attempt to get anything from her. It was more of a ... here I am, alone again.. kind of feeling. Hey- sorry, I didn't intend my tone to be scalding, or derogatory. More light hearted banter with cynicism a la Oscar Wilde. I came to that conclusion because your older posts allude to thos kind of preferences, so I assumed the same. So now you are trying to focus on monogamy? Good for you, deceipt erodes your soul in the long run. In that case, it probably is better for you to be with someone who is more similar in economic class and tastes, so nobody gets annoyed next time.
Jilly Bean Posted January 30, 2008 Posted January 30, 2008 In that case, it probably is better for you to be with someone who is more similar in economic class and tastes, so nobody gets annoyed next time. GRRR!!!! Eating at Souplantion is NOT indicative of economic class and taste!!!! Dayum, people! Newsflash - even Donald Trump eats at Kentucky Fried Chicken...
stillafool Posted January 30, 2008 Posted January 30, 2008 This lady expected you to pay but chose a place that wasn't expensive. That shows that she was thinking about you. Sometimes women don't want to insult a man by paying until they know him better. It is clear that you think you are better than her since she works at an amusement park and lives with her parents. Why did you ask her out? Why did you even respond to her? Why don't you only date women who want to eat at fancy restaurants and only be around the "somebodies" in the world, whoever they are. I think this lady was smart to move on from you. She sounds like a nice lady who deserves better.
Florida Posted January 30, 2008 Posted January 30, 2008 GRRR!!!! Eating at Souplantion is NOT indicative of economic class and taste!!!! Dayum, people! Newsflash - even Donald Trump eats at Kentucky Fried Chicken... I agree Jilly, it wasn't my own personal view- but Cad seems to think that, so I was saying it more to his viewpoint, even though in reality it doesn't indicate anything much. But if he gets annoyed at that kind of date, then he has to find people exactly like himself in thinking.
Author Cad Rake Posted January 30, 2008 Author Posted January 30, 2008 GRRR!!!! Eating at Souplantion is NOT indicative of economic class and taste!!!! Dayum, people! Newsflash - even Donald Trump eats at Kentucky Fried Chicken... You're missing the point. While it's perfectly fine to eat at souplantation during your lunch hour, inviting somebody there to dinner on your 3rd date after he/she took you to a very nice restaurant the previous date and then expecting him/her to pay IS SIMPLY LAME (unless you live in the ozarks). There are few things in life I'm sure of, but this is one. Whether I handled it appropriately or not has already been settled.
Pyro Posted January 30, 2008 Posted January 30, 2008 You're missing the point. While it's perfectly fine to eat at souplantation during your lunch hour, inviting somebody there to dinner on your 3rd date after he/she took you to a very nice restaurant the previous date and then expecting him/her to pay IS SIMPLY LAME (unless you live in the ozarks). What is wrong with variety? I personally like a good mix of more expensive and less expensive places.
Author Cad Rake Posted January 30, 2008 Author Posted January 30, 2008 Newsflash - even Donald Trump eats at Kentucky Fried Chicken... Oh, and Donald Trump is not exactly the epitome of class and taste.
ElvenPriestess Posted January 30, 2008 Posted January 30, 2008 inviting somebody there to dinner on your 3rd date after he/she took you to a very nice restaurant the previous date and then expecting him/her to pay IS SIMPLY LAME No it's not! Getting upset at it is LAME. Come down on off your high horse and join the rest of us normal class people, you could learn to enjoy relaxed and simple dates as these.
Pyro Posted January 30, 2008 Posted January 30, 2008 IS SIMPLY LAME (unless you live in the ozarks). So all of a sudden those who live in the South are lame? Good luck finding a relationship.
blind_otter Posted January 30, 2008 Posted January 30, 2008 What is wrong with variety? I personally like a good mix of more expensive and less expensive places. Word. Sometimes I want an expensive steak dinner, sometime I'll go for a chicken sandwich from zaxby's.
Pyro Posted January 30, 2008 Posted January 30, 2008 Word. Sometimes I want an expensive steak dinner, sometime I'll go for a chicken sandwich from zaxby's. Zaxby's? Thats a funny name.
Jilly Bean Posted January 30, 2008 Posted January 30, 2008 You're missing the point. While it's perfectly fine to eat at souplantation during your lunch hour, inviting somebody there to dinner on your 3rd date after he/she took you to a very nice restaurant the previous date and then expecting him/her to pay IS SIMPLY LAME (unless you live in the ozarks). There are few things in life I'm sure of, but this is one. Whether I handled it appropriately or not has already been settled. Oh, so then you took her out looking for some type of payback, was that it? Perhaps she didn't think you were worth more than a date at Souplantation. Not sure on that, as I'm not her... But YOU are still missing the point, Cad. If you expect a woman to treat you to a fine dining experience on your third date AND pay, I suggest you start hanging at the country club and looking for a trust funder. And guess I should move to the Ozarks then... Just hope they have a Ritz-Carlton right next to a Hardees so I'll be happy.
Author Cad Rake Posted January 30, 2008 Author Posted January 30, 2008 No it's not! Getting upset at it is LAME. Come down on off your high horse and join the rest of us normal class people, you could learn to enjoy relaxed and simple dates as these. mmmmmmmm I'll pass. Thanks though.
Jilly Bean Posted January 30, 2008 Posted January 30, 2008 Oh, and Donald Trump is not exactly the epitome of class and taste. Yes, I am sure even he wouldn't be worthy of dining with you...
Author Cad Rake Posted January 30, 2008 Author Posted January 30, 2008 But YOU are still missing the point, Cad. If you expect a woman to treat you to a fine dining experience on your third date AND pay, I suggest you start hanging at the country club and looking for a trust funder. lol it's happened more than a couple times before. And guess I should move to the Ozarks then... Just hope they have a Ritz-Carlton right next to a Hardees so I'll be happy. Something tells me they wouldn't let you into the Ritz Carlton lol
Pyro Posted January 30, 2008 Posted January 30, 2008 If that is what you consider to be an insult CR, then you have a long ways to go.
Pirouette Posted January 30, 2008 Posted January 30, 2008 And if she couldn't afford the expensive dinner, want did you honestly expect her to do? Take out a loan for it? Perhaps she was trying to take you out for something within her means and that she enjoyed, and that certainly doesn't make her a terrible person. I just find it strange that you were so insulted by this that you basically fell apart, and that you came here the next day still SO insulted and actually expecting some people (50%) to agree with you. It is not a response that most people would identify with.
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