THE THRONE Posted January 23, 2008 Share Posted January 23, 2008 Does it really matter? Yes it matters. Link to post Share on other sites
Green Posted January 23, 2008 Share Posted January 23, 2008 You got a lot to learn about Israel, so if I were you, I wouldn't even bring that up at this point. You brought it up, You think that because you moved her from Israel when you were 15 thats why you can't have any relationships with women. You've got a lot to learn about life Link to post Share on other sites
THE THRONE Posted January 23, 2008 Share Posted January 23, 2008 You brought it up, You think that because you moved her from Israel when you were 15 thats why you can't have any relationships with women. You've got a lot to learn about life THE THRONE is in agreement. Link to post Share on other sites
Lucasarts Posted January 23, 2008 Share Posted January 23, 2008 1. Most of them are shallow, I still have some sort of faith in the ones that are not. 2. I am not bitter. I just want it to work. 3. I didn't want an instant g/f. I just wanted to talk to her on the phone and meet her. I guess that was too much. I don't call every girl that soon, this one was different and I'm sort of spontenious with that. If I followed all these so called "rules", my life would be too boring. I decided to make things interesting and also test her a bit. She called the next day. Then I got the flu and told her I will call her later and she said ok. Then I called later and she was busy and I haven't heard back. This gets really frustrating. 4. I will date more than one woman at a time if I meet more. That should be happening soon, since I got a bunch of events to attend. I'll try to take your last suggestion. lol life would be too boring. so the way your doing things now, i guess is pretty exciting huh? and i like how you hate "games" yet you're still playing them ("i want to test her") and i think like you're trying to say before, you'll never change. So good luck and I really do hope for the best, cause one day a girl will soften your ******* mentality and you'll realize just how much the world can change when you do. Link to post Share on other sites
Green Posted January 23, 2008 Share Posted January 23, 2008 lol life would be too boring. so the way your doing things now, i guess is pretty exciting huh? and i like how you hate "games" yet you're still playing them ("i want to test her") and i think like you're trying to say before, you'll never change. So good luck and I really do hope for the best, cause one day a girl will soften your ******* mentality and you'll realize just how much the world can change when you do. Dude I don't think I could pay a woman enough to put up with his crap past 2 encounters. Hes got a horible attitude and he's unwiling to try or admit anything. I dont know what he expected to get out of posting here other then validation that women in CA suck or something like that. Well sorry pal I'm labeling you as one big mind game that im tired of playing Link to post Share on other sites
Author Boost79 Posted January 24, 2008 Author Share Posted January 24, 2008 lol life would be too boring. so the way your doing things now, i guess is pretty exciting huh? and i like how you hate "games" yet you're still playing them ("i want to test her") and i think like you're trying to say before, you'll never change. So good luck and I really do hope for the best, cause one day a girl will soften your ******* mentality and you'll realize just how much the world can change when you do. No, not really, like I said, I wish people started answering their phone, but again, that was proven to be too difficult, I apologize, it is too much to ask. Link to post Share on other sites
Lucasarts Posted January 24, 2008 Share Posted January 24, 2008 ok this is my last post. who the **** cares about a voicemail?! seriously the whole reason that you're NOT getting the results you want from women is because of your ****ty attitude and even ****tier outlook at life. I'm glad i have a voicemail more now, cause i don't have to answer any calls from ****heads like you, I just laugh at how angry they are that only machines will talk to them. Plus you only hear what you want to hear (or in this case, read what you want to read and ignore everything else) which makes it impossible to help you in anyway. So yes, women in America suck, the dating customs suck, and this website sucks. Now go away and jerk off to some porn, cause thats the closest thing to getting laid that you'll get to. Or call a hooker, some of them like it when you spit on their face (but it'll cost extra) and if you're really lucky, they might let you choke them. God even through the internet, I hate you more than anyone since high school. Link to post Share on other sites
Green Posted January 24, 2008 Share Posted January 24, 2008 any women who encounters you is a hero in my eyes Link to post Share on other sites
THE THRONE Posted January 24, 2008 Share Posted January 24, 2008 God even through the internet, I hate you more than anyone since high school. LOL! But if THE THRONE had said that he would have been given a warning. Link to post Share on other sites
sunshinegirl Posted January 29, 2008 Share Posted January 29, 2008 Sorry Boost, it's a tough break to want to be dating and feel like all you get is rejection. I hope at some point you can really hear the advice people are giving you. Basically, you're standing in your own way. I mean, look around you: does everyone in the U.S. find it impossible to meet someone and start a relationship? If there were an epidemic of shallow women not returning voicemails or calls, it would be making national headlines because we would have a national mating/reproduction crisis on our hands. But obviously lots of people find their way into relationships in this country. So the thing is, the common denominator in your bad dating experiences is...you. If you could get out of your own way, and be willing to try some different approaches to meeting women, you'd have a lot more success. By my reading, the place to start is with your mentality. You are pretty negative, and my guess is that you telegraph that attitude to the women you meet. It's a big turnoff. I didn't start dating seriously until I was 26, and I had a lot of rounds of rejection along the way. The single best thing I did was work on my attitude and get happy with my own life. Once I did that, my attitude toward dating changed as well: I wasn't desperate to be with anyone; instead, dating was a way to meet and get to know interesting people. I viewed it as a fun process, not a crappy horrible one. And for what it's worth, I was absolutely overwhelmed with male attention when I made that internal, mental shift. I projected a completely different 'vibe', one that attracted people. I was confident, interesting (lots of travel and work stuff to talk about), and interested in others' lives. My guess is that you have a pretty interesting 'story' to put out there to the world... but it starts with changing your attitude. Good luck. Link to post Share on other sites
JCD Posted January 30, 2008 Share Posted January 30, 2008 I think you are desperate to have sex with a woman and feel frustrated by not doing so. I think if you were looking for a relationship, you would not care about being rejected because it just wasn't meant to be. Right now, you need to live your life without a woman and never place importance of a woman on your life. So what? You don't have one. It doesn't mean your entire life is a waste. Don't be so desperate. There is more to life than a woman. Link to post Share on other sites
samamelia Posted January 30, 2008 Share Posted January 30, 2008 I'm sorry but I just read one of your replies...I cannot conform to your advice because it is not how I do things??? I don't know what GOOD relationship you'll have with this statement...That's ur mentality...Relationships require compromise...It's like if a girl tells you she doesn't like you calling her 10 times a day...just because it's what you're about, doesn't mean you can't make the compromise...It's not like she said, I want to date and have 4 relationships at the same time...You hav to figure out what your core values are in a relationship, and then what is compromisable... Sometimes it's not okay, we've met, let's get married...or we're now exclusive...take time to get to know people...maybe that's why the girls stopped calling...they got to know you too damn quick...and don't like a pushy unrealistic egotistical snob who wants it his way or the highway...they have obviously chosen the highway, and I would to to be quite frank. think about it. be blessed Link to post Share on other sites
maynicholas Posted January 30, 2008 Share Posted January 30, 2008 I feel the need to add my 2 cents in here. Let's take your life story out of this. That isn't important. What I feel like I am hearing in your posts- and the title of this thread is that you are looking for Ms. Right. You want to find someone so you can stop looking and not have to deal with all these dating hoops. Women can sense that. We like to feel wanted, but not needed. You said that you would really like to be able to talk to a woman and get to know her. Then do that, but try it at her pace. If you come on too strongly and call a lot, or sound annoyed on her voicemail, guess what? You probably lost her. A man who gets annoyed so quickly in the beginning stages of dating means he will get even more annoyed by little things further down the road. Generally women will sense this and just opt out before it goes any further. I think that is the wall you may be hitting. I think your first task should be to work on how you are personalizing the percieved rejections- whether it is a woman not answering the phone, not returning your calls, or disappearing altogether. You should try to understand that this happens to everyone at one point or another and it wasn't something done TO you. It was just something that was done. Think about this. You are behind a car and they have their blinker on to turn right. You put your blinker on too because you happen to be turning right as well. At the last minute they change their mind and go straight. Did they change direction because you put your blinker on? No. They changed their mind. Maybe it was the wrong road, maybe they decieded to take the scenic route, it could be anything- but what it wasn't was a personal attack on you. Sure you might get annoyed for a second, but it passes and in a couple of minutes you have forgotten it. My guess is that you are getting annoyed with these women because they aren't doing what in your head you think they should do. You get annoyed and next time you speak to them it shows (even if it is just a little- we can tell) Work on disassociating yourself from your percieved notions of rejection & personal attacks and I'm sure you will be just fine. And don't forget- it's the journey, not the destination, that we stand to learn the most from. Link to post Share on other sites
mikeraw Posted January 30, 2008 Share Posted January 30, 2008 Hey man, I hate playing games, too... but that's the way humans do things and you have to get used to them... It's our mating dance. By not calling right away you're doing a lot of things right... Showing her you have a life besides her, sparking a tiny bit of interest in why you haven't called, etc. If you're too forward and move too fast, then you're probably coming off as too agressive and selfish. You might even come off as scary... guys are bigger than girls. She might feel physically threatened. But I don't think that's the problem. I think you're doing it wrong. Italians are very direct and agressive, and American chicks love them. Learn from people that are doing it right. And get out of that whole mentality that you were raised in another country until the age of 15 and that that makes it tougher for you to fit in. Be positive. Lots of immigrants come to this country at even older ages and having less in common with Americans and they date Americans... and if they don't date Americans, then they date people from their own country and/or culture. Go to your temple and look for chicks there, but be positive. I came to this country to attend university and I was older than you (17) and I still met plenty of nice girls. And I think my country, Nicaragua, has even less in common with the US than Israel does, so you can overcome cultural differences easier. Besides, American pop culture is not rocket surgery. Learn it. Start by studying LOLcats. Link to post Share on other sites
mikeraw Posted January 30, 2008 Share Posted January 30, 2008 (edited) Wait... I just thought of something brilliant for you. Go to Israel. Meet a girl with YOUR values, at YOUR speed, call her after 5 HOURS, if she's not shallow marry her, and bring her back to the USA. That saves you the trouble of weeding out those that don't share your culture and that date in an American manner. Man, what the hey are American dating customs, anyway? They're the same all over the Western world, I think. Well, the main customs, at least. But is it only in this country that you have had problems finding a decent girl? At this age? I'm your age, by the way, dude. And I'm an Industrial and Systems engineer. We probably have similar points of view on many issues. Edited January 30, 2008 by mikeraw additional info. Link to post Share on other sites
LikesMeNot Posted February 3, 2008 Share Posted February 3, 2008 They sound alike, but in this case, they're diff. with frustration, just chill, eventually you'll find your true soulmate, the one that isn't going to flake on you no matter what. If you're angry, things are more complicated. Is there someone special right now? Like some of the others, go to the temple. Socialize A LOT and go to parties, you might meet someone special! Take a risk, cause no 1 is asking you to change, an you shouldn't -P.S. RRREEELLLAAAXXX! Link to post Share on other sites
LikesMeNot Posted February 3, 2008 Share Posted February 3, 2008 I'm sorry but I just read one of your replies...I cannot conform to your advice because it is not how I do things??? I don't know what GOOD relationship you'll have with this statement...That's ur mentality...Relationships require compromise...It's like if a girl tells you she doesn't like you calling her 10 times a day...just because it's what you're about, doesn't mean you can't make the compromise...It's not like she said, I want to date and have 4 relationships at the same time...You hav to figure out what your core values are in a relationship, and then what is compromisable... Sometimes it's not okay, we've met, let's get married...or we're now exclusive...take time to get to know people...maybe that's why the girls stopped calling...they got to know you too damn quick...and don't like a pushy unrealistic egotistical snob who wants it his way or the highway...they have obviously chosen the highway, and I would to to be quite frank. think about it. be blessed Don't listen to her, you're u, and changing yourself just to get girls is shallow and heartless, and is worse than acting impatient. Samamelia, it's not that he needs to change. It's useless. Link to post Share on other sites
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