KenzieAbsolutely Posted January 11, 2008 Posted January 11, 2008 (edited) Ok, when I said plain, I didn't mean "one step down from gorgeous"! I meant plain. As in average looks, 5/10 at best, or even below. Someone who, if you dated them, your friends would be saying "Oh my god, what do you see in HER?" (or him) and then shake their heads in bewilderment. Apart from the brave woman who posted the guy with the disgusting beard, no one has really answered properly. Ok, I will throw a few out there: well then according to you, you haven't answered properly either, because someone who is simply 'plain' wouldn't cause someone's friends to 'shake their heads in bewilderment'. they might wonder what the person sees in them, but bewilderment wouldn't be part of it because the plainness wouldn't evoke enough emotion to think that way. a 'disgusting beard' isn't really 'plain', so how is that a proper answer? everyone's idea of plain is different, just like everyone's idea of drop-dead gorgeous is different. not being cheeky! just pointing these things out. Edited January 11, 2008 by KenzieAbsolutely
underpants Posted January 11, 2008 Posted January 11, 2008 everyone's idea of plain is different, just like everyone's idea of drop-dead gorgeous is different. not being cheeky! just pointing these things out. I agree with this. Also, everyone's idea of ugly is subjective. Good point.
KenzieAbsolutely Posted January 11, 2008 Posted January 11, 2008 I agree with this. Also, everyone's idea of ugly is subjective. Good point. right. thanks for adding, i seemed to have skipped over the ugly section.
tanbark813 Posted January 11, 2008 Posted January 11, 2008 I think most guys interpret the question how MT did: A girl who isn't all that attractive but who you'd still like to f**k.
KenzieAbsolutely Posted January 11, 2008 Posted January 11, 2008 I think most guys interpret the question how MT did: A girl who isn't all that attractive but who you'd still like to f**k. so you would f**k a girl whose looks you find bewildering?
tanbark813 Posted January 11, 2008 Posted January 11, 2008 so you would f**k a girl whose looks you find bewildering? Plain, yes. I don't know what you mean by "bewildering". You mean like her nose is on her forehead and you can't figure out why it got like that?
DutchGuy Posted January 11, 2008 Posted January 11, 2008 Plain, yes. I don't know what you mean by "bewildering". You mean like her nose is on her forehead and you can't figure out why it got like that? Cyclopses have their nose on their forehead... 'Plain' seems like something everyone should be able to agree on. A boring face, nothing special, blank, 'average'. But I can't think of such a person...
KenzieAbsolutely Posted January 11, 2008 Posted January 11, 2008 (edited) Plain, yes. I don't know what you mean by "bewildering". You mean like her nose is on her forehead and you can't figure out why it got like that? this is mt's idea of plain: Ok, when I said plain, I meant plain...Someone who, if you dated them, your friends would be saying "Oh my god, what do you see in HER?" (or him) and then shake their heads in bewilderment. and you said you would agree with mt's interpretation of what is meant by it. do you still? usually something that gets such a reaction wouldn't be considered plain, because obviously something is striking, whether pleasant or not. Edited January 11, 2008 by KenzieAbsolutely
tanbark813 Posted January 11, 2008 Posted January 11, 2008 this is mt's idea of plain: and you said you would agree with mt's interpretation of what is meant by it. do you still? usually something that gets such a reaction wouldn't be considered plain. Yes, but that's finding the situation bewildering, not the looks. One of my exes didn't have the most pretty face by conventional standards but it was uniquely her own. She did have a rockin' body, though, and our senses of humor meshed very well. I couldn't date a girl who didn't appreciate my humor.
KenzieAbsolutely Posted January 11, 2008 Posted January 11, 2008 Yes, but that's finding the situation bewildering, not the looks. One of my exes didn't have the most pretty face by conventional standards but it was uniquely her own. She did have a rockin' body, though, and our senses of humor meshed very well. I couldn't date a girl who didn't appreciate my humor. it's saying that the way she looks is bewildering. that's talking about her personally, not just the situation. notice the emphasis on HER in mt's quote? even if it's about the 'situation', it's still all based on how someone looks. plain things don't bewilder people, because they were struck by something in the person's looks, even if it was unpleasant. that's different than what you describe in your situation with your ex.
tanbark813 Posted January 11, 2008 Posted January 11, 2008 it's saying that the way she looks is bewildering. that's talking about her personally, not just the situation. notice the emphasis on HER in mt's quote? even if it's about the 'situation', it's still all based on how someone looks. plain things don't bewilder people, because they were struck by something in the person's looks, even if it was unpleasant. that's different than what you describe in your situation with your ex. I've never been bewildered by someone's looks. I don't even get what that means. But if you see a guy with a certain girl and are bewildered by the fact that they're together, that I can see, and that is what MT was describing. You're bewildered that they're together because she looks plain. But anyway, semantic arguments aside, yes, I would f**k someone plain if there were other things about them I found sexy.
KenzieAbsolutely Posted January 11, 2008 Posted January 11, 2008 I've never been bewildered by someone's looks. I don't even get what that means. But if you see a guy with a certain girl and are bewildered by the fact that they're together, that I can see, and that is what MT was describing. You're bewildered that they're together because she looks plain. But anyway, semantic arguments aside, yes, I would f**k someone plain if there were other things about them I found sexy. nevermind. you're not getting the point of the difference between something plain and something bewildering, and i can't possibly word it without repetition. so i'll just say, okay, good.
underpants Posted January 11, 2008 Posted January 11, 2008 I'm confused. Attraction for me at least is all in the mind. A good mental connection can make me extremely physically attracted to 'unlikely' people. In the same way, I have dated some 'underwear model' looking fellows that were about as stimulating as a bowl of oatmeal. I can objectively say that Johnny Depp is hot and George Clooney is not (to me). However, I don't know either of those people. So really, it is just a matter of what movie I might rent. Tom Cruise is ugly.
Saxis Posted January 11, 2008 Posted January 11, 2008 nevermind. you're not getting the point of the difference between something plain and something bewildering, and i can't possibly word it without repetition. so i'll just say, okay, good. I think he gets it exactly. If you can find someone's looks bewildering, then you obviously don't find them plain. One or the other. M_T could've only been describing the situation as bewildering....
tanbark813 Posted January 11, 2008 Posted January 11, 2008 nevermind. you're not getting the point of the difference between something plain and something bewildering, Actually, I am. Finding someone's looking bewildering is to be confused by them. I've never been confused by how someone looks. I have, however, been confused about why someone would date someone. Buy a dictionary.
Storyrider Posted January 11, 2008 Posted January 11, 2008 "Plain" is a term I don't hear many modern people use in conversation, unless they are referring to vanilla ice-cream or clarifying that they don't want extra-crispy fried chicken. I associated it with nineteenth century novels, when I assume it meant something different, probably unremarkable, of dull complexion, lacking vitality, unlikely to attract attention. It speaks more about the likely reaction to the woman's appearance than it does about her features themselves. It comes from an era when it would have been considered coarse and vulgar to refer to any "lady" as ugly. One could probably say that about a prostitute and get away with it. And I'm sure it was said at the Victorian smoking clubs when only men were present.
tanbark813 Posted January 11, 2008 Posted January 11, 2008 Actually, I am. Finding someone's looking bewildering is to be confused by them. I've never been confused by how someone looks. I have, however, been confused about why someone would date someone. Buy a dictionary. That should be "finding someone's looks".
KenzieAbsolutely Posted January 11, 2008 Posted January 11, 2008 Actually, I am. Finding someone's looking bewildering is to be confused by them. I've never been confused by how someone looks. I have, however, been confused about why someone would date someone. Buy a dictionary. it also means to 'cause to lose one's bearings'. if this happens, what you're looking is hardly plain or boring. you were the one who flat-out said you weren't getting what was meant by bewildering. i'll let you borrow my dictionary.
tanbark813 Posted January 11, 2008 Posted January 11, 2008 it also means to 'cause to lose one's bearings'. if this happens, what you're looking is hardly plain or boring. i'll let you borrow my dictionary. I've also never looked at someone and suddenly been lost. "Dude, check that chick out!" "Wait.. Where the f**k am I?"
KenzieAbsolutely Posted January 11, 2008 Posted January 11, 2008 I've also never looked at someone and suddenly been lost. "Dude, check that chick out!" "Wait.. Where the f**k am I?" you're fun, tanbark.
tanbark813 Posted January 11, 2008 Posted January 11, 2008 you were the one who flat-out said you weren't getting what was meant by bewildering. I often don't get it when people use words incorrectly.
tanbark813 Posted January 11, 2008 Posted January 11, 2008 you're fun, tanbark. That's what they tell me, baby.
KenzieAbsolutely Posted January 11, 2008 Posted January 11, 2008 I often don't get it when people use words incorrectly. neither do i, which is why i wasn't getting how plain and bewildering were being used interchangeably by another poster. that was my point. i think we're understanding each other more than we're realizing.
Nemo Posted January 11, 2008 Posted January 11, 2008 "Plain" is a term I don't hear many modern people use in conversation, unless they are referring to vanilla ice-cream or clarifying that they don't want extra-crispy fried chicken. I've always wanted a vanilla personality. The sort of person who gets on with everybody, because they add their own toppings. It speaks more about the likely reaction to the woman's appearance than it does about her features themselves. Exactly! The holistic approach.
Nemo Posted January 11, 2008 Posted January 11, 2008 i think we're understanding each other more than we're realizing. It's kind of bewildering.
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