PLAYBRAT Posted January 7, 2008 Posted January 7, 2008 The Betty Broderick story....in case anyone has never read about it. Shows how affairs can completely consume you. Sometimes fatally. Someone sent me the link to the complete story....Betty Broderick. A Crime Library Classic crime story. - The Crime library.
GreenEyedLady Posted January 7, 2008 Posted January 7, 2008 The Betty Broderick story....in case anyone has never read about it. Shows how affairs can completely consume you. Sometimes fatally. Someone sent me the link to the complete story....Betty Broderick. A Crime Library Classic crime story. - The Crime library. I'd say it's True BS tragedy...The W killed her H, not the OW, right?
LucreziaBorgia Posted January 7, 2008 Posted January 7, 2008 I remember when the TV movie "A Women Scorned" came out with Meredith Baxter Birney playing Betty. Chilling stuff. It was an ugly situation, all around - a tragedy for all involved.
GreenEyedLady Posted January 7, 2008 Posted January 7, 2008 Both were killed. Thanks, I didn't see that...I wasn't going to read the rest of the chapters... It's still a BS tragedy, though...I really don't understand how someone can so depend on one person for their very existence that they'd be willing to kill if they can't have them...
whichwayisup Posted January 7, 2008 Posted January 7, 2008 ...I really don't understand how someone can so depend on one person for their very existence that they'd be willing to kill if they can't have them... I said this on faithfulwife's thread. ANYONE is capable of anything when pushed past their emotional limit. It's easy to sit and jugde, to say I'd never do that...I mean, crimes of passion are happening ALL over the place, not just in the movies. And, it isn't always the BS either.
bentnotbroken Posted January 7, 2008 Posted January 7, 2008 Nope, sometimes it is the ow. Wasn't that what happened with the astronaut last year? You know being so crazy that you wear a diaper cross country to kill someone. You just never know.
whichwayisup Posted January 7, 2008 Posted January 7, 2008 astronaut Yes, exactly. There was a well respected and hard working woman. Look how her life changed. I bet if someone told her she would be capable of driving across the country in a diaper, with the intention of wanting to kill someone at some point in her future, she would have say NO BLOODY WAY. Crazy sh*t happens sometimes.
GreenEyedLady Posted January 7, 2008 Posted January 7, 2008 But in that case, she wasn't really the OW...The guy was dating two chicks at the same time... I'm sorry...You will NEVER find me putting on a depends and chasing after some guy or his lover...You can quote me on that... There's plenty of other men out there...Why degrade myself to being a representative for diapers?! Who is going to date her now? Which, I am not being entirely serious (except about the diaper-wearing part) and making light of it...But I think our society has drilled it into women's heads that they are not as important unless attached to a man... Some women base their entire identity on being Mrs. So and So and then when it doesn't work out, they can't remember who they were and they don't know who they are...
whichwayisup Posted January 7, 2008 Posted January 7, 2008 We'll ALL be in diapers at some point later in life...lol
GreenEyedLady Posted January 7, 2008 Posted January 7, 2008 We'll ALL be in diapers at some point later in life...lol Hopefully they will have designed something less "messy" by the time I'll need them...
underpants Posted January 7, 2008 Posted January 7, 2008 But in that case, she wasn't really the OW...The guy was dating two chicks at the same time... Actually, in that case the diaper lady was married and pursuing her OM that had moved on with a single girlfriend. There was a case I saw on Court TV a few months back in which the OW commited suicide and set it up to look like the MM did it. She felt rejected when he did not want her anymore. He went to prison for a number of years until forensics could clear his name. He learned (the hard way) that cheating was not a good idea. On the whole I think cheating, affairs, and infidelity is just a bad idea.
OWoman Posted January 7, 2008 Posted January 7, 2008 I said this on faithfulwife's thread. ANYONE is capable of anything when pushed past their emotional limit. It's easy to sit and jugde, to say I'd never do that...I mean, crimes of passion are happening ALL over the place, not just in the movies. And, it isn't always the BS either. No. In my country there have been a number of well-publicised cases of OW killing or taking a hit out on the BW in order to get her out the way so she could get the MM to herself - including a really tragic case involving a school girl OW and the middle-aged W of her MM not too long ago. The worst thing for her was not the realisation of what she'd done, but that the MM didn't support her through the trial and wanted nothing more to do with her. Hello? Poor kid just didn't have a clue! I suppose the difference between the sane and the crazy is that the crazy know what they're capable of doing...
marlena Posted January 7, 2008 Posted January 7, 2008 On the whole I think cheating, affairs, and infidelity is just a bad idea. Yes, when all is said and done, affairs are a dangerous sport to engage in. As predictable as they are, they can really get out of control and spiral into tragedy. Like WWWI said, under extreme psychological and emotional strain, anyone can go "temporarily insane." The human psyche is a very delicate thing that can easily be fragmented into a thousand pieces given the right circumstances. Best stay clear of affairs and not court disaster. But of course, one has to learn this lesson through first - hand experience. No one listens to other people's advice when in the throes of passion.
frannie Posted January 7, 2008 Posted January 7, 2008 Oh not another OW tragedy Actually, in that case the diaper lady was married and pursuing her OM that had moved on with a single girlfriend. So it was actually a 'MW tragedy' after all? Honestly, who cares. There are people making theirs and other people's lives a tragedy all over. Some of it involves infidelity and some doesn't. Most women who are murdered are murdered by some man they were either currently involved with or an ex. Does that mean we should all stop having relationships altogether? No. Enough with the tragedies
marlena Posted January 7, 2008 Posted January 7, 2008 Frannie, You are right of course. Your logic stands. Still, their is a heightened chance of violence when one engages in this sort of thing. Just my opinion.
frannie Posted January 7, 2008 Posted January 7, 2008 Frannie, You are right of course. Your logic stands. Still, their is a heightened chance of violence when one engages in this sort of thing. Just my opinion. I agree, there is a greater chance of violence in affairs... or in any relationship where jealousy is involved. That includes a woman who is involved with a jealous man (and she is innocent of anything, its all in his head), or a woman who ends one relationship and then begins another. But I see it as similar to the suicide debate we had on the other thread (not to drag the debate up again). Can we go through life changing our behaviour because of the violent, suicidal, or otherwise out of control actions of others, or should we live a life of freedom of thought and action? Would you suggest to a woman involved with a violent man that she stay with him because leaving him might lead to her death (the usual scenario?). Surely not. We can't go through life at the whim of people who cannot control themselves and don't want us to act in ways that upset them.
Meaplus3 Posted January 7, 2008 Posted January 7, 2008 I agree, there is a greater chance of violence in affairs... or in any relationship where jealousy is involved. That includes a woman who is involved with a jealous man (and she is innocent of anything, its all in his head), or a woman who ends one relationship and then begins another. But I see it as similar to the suicide debate we had on the other thread (not to drag the debate up again). Can we go through life changing our behaviour because of the violent, suicidal, or otherwise out of control actions of others, or should we live a life of freedom of thought and action? Would you suggest to a woman involved with a violent man that she stay with him because leaving him might lead to her death (the usual scenario?). Surely not. We can't go through life at the whim of people who cannot control themselves and don't want us to act in ways that upset them. I very much agree with you here Frannie, well put. AP:)
OWoman Posted January 7, 2008 Posted January 7, 2008 We can't go through life at the whim of people who cannot control themselves and don't want us to act in ways that upset them. I could not agree more!
marlena Posted January 7, 2008 Posted January 7, 2008 Can we go through life changing our behaviour because of the violent, suicidal, or otherwise out of control actions of others, or should we live a life of freedom of thought and action? Without doubt, a life of freedom of thought and action. But where does freedom stop and anarchy set in? It has been said that "Our freedom stops where other people's freedom begins." Again a question of boundaries. Would you suggest to a woman involved with a violent man that she stay with him because leaving him might lead to her death (the usual scenario?). Surely not. However much I denounce violence I am fully aware that all people have the propensity to exercise violence. I also believe that all people are capable of committing crimes of passion in the heat of the moment. The mind is a very dark, mysterious place, unpredictable and fragile and fraught with dangerous possibilities. It can break/ split/snap causing all kinds of aberrant behaviour. I do not underestimate its whims. People do sink into despair and act out of despair. Of course, it is not my responsibilty when they do. It is theirs. Still, that doesn't change the outcome. I'd just rather not be a part of it is all. Would I date a man with a violent criminal record? Of course not. In the same way, I am determined to stay away from affairs not so much out of a sense of morality but rather because they can and do wreak such havoc in the lives of people. Of course I learned this the hard way.
underpants Posted January 7, 2008 Posted January 7, 2008 Oh not another OW tragedy So it was actually a 'MW tragedy' after all? Actually, I would say it is a tragedy for all involved. Honestly, who cares. I'll remember you said that. There is also that famous Amy Fisher case where the OW shot the wife. Would I date a man with a violent criminal record? Of course not. In the same way, I am determined to stay away from affairs not so much out of a sense of morality but rather because they can and do wreak such havoc in the lives of people. This is how I feel also. From all that I see aside from what is in the media, but real life. Affairs, infidelity and cheating just never seem to result in a positive and often do result in negative outcomes. Even if these behaviours don't led to a violent outcome. There is all too often permanent emotional wounds inflicted. Its is just sad and avoidable.
JackJack Posted January 7, 2008 Posted January 7, 2008 What matters most of all, is if people can look at themselves in the mirror and smile and lay their heads down on their pillows at night resting easy, knowing that what they are doing/have done they are happy with. Just my 2 cents.
GreenEyedLady Posted January 7, 2008 Posted January 7, 2008 What matters most of all, is if people can look at themselves in the mirror and smile and lay their heads down on their pillows at night resting easy, knowing that what they are doing/have done they are happy with. Just my 2 cents. I agree with you, that is all that matters...
JackJack Posted January 7, 2008 Posted January 7, 2008 (edited) I agree with you, that is all that matters... Oh, I'm not for OW all up in a MM situation or vice versa, I'm just saying, if people can sleep well at night and live their lives with no guilty conscience at all, then more power to those people. I couldn't do it personally. But, whateva. Edited January 7, 2008 by JackJack
White Flower Posted January 9, 2008 Posted January 9, 2008 Thanks, I didn't see that...I wasn't going to read the rest of the chapters... It's still a BS tragedy, though...I really don't understand how someone can so depend on one person for their very existence that they'd be willing to kill if they can't have them... You can't understand because thankfully you are not sick;)
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