Gwyneth Posted December 17, 2007 Posted December 17, 2007 Lizzie, I wouldn't even bother arguing with some of these people. What is the OW supposed to do, Compliment the wife? Seriously--that is just Not going to happen. So if that is what BSs are looking for around here, then they are really in the wrong place.
Gwyneth Posted December 17, 2007 Posted December 17, 2007 Ok, that made me laugh. Hope you don't mind my going off-topic for a second but that reminded me of this song. Has anyone heard this song? Here are the lyrics: If you wanna be happy for the rest of your life, Never make a pretty woman your wife. So from my personal point of view, Get an ugly girl to marry you. Chorus A pretty woman makes her husband look small, And very often causes his downfall. As soon as he marries her, then she starts, To do the things that will break his heart. But if you make an ugly woman your wife, You'll be happy for the rest of your life. An ugly woman cooks meals all the time, She'll always give you peace of mind. Chorus Don't let your friends say you have no taste, Go ahead and marry anyway. Her face is ugly, her eyes don't match. Take it from me, she's a better catch. Chorus Say, man? Hey baby! I saw your wife the other day. Yeah? Yeah, and she's sure is ugly. Ha! Yeah, she's ugly, but she sure can cook, baby! Of course, I don't agree with all of that, but it's still funny and your remark reminded me of that song. Yeah, alright. Unfortunately, she has acne. That's a shame, baby. Yeah, baby. :laugh: Who is this by? Only a Shallow Hal would marry based on looks.
Gwyneth Posted December 17, 2007 Posted December 17, 2007 Why are we throwing stones here? No one does anything they don't want to do... Grown men should be held accountable for their actions...If they choose to cheat, they choose to cheat...They're the married one and they're the one who is responsible to their spouse...If they don't want to cheat, they won't... Rock on GEL! Thumbs up for you. Some of these people just do not get it. Like we are responsible for the actions of grown, married men. Please. Half of them lie about their situations.
Author Lizzie60 Posted December 17, 2007 Author Posted December 17, 2007 Lizzie, I wouldn't even bother arguing with some of these people. What is the OW supposed to do, Compliment the wife? Seriously--that is just Not going to happen. So if that is what BSs are looking for around here, then they are really in the wrong place. LOL.. it's not about complimenting or not... It is just surprising to see a W that does not 'match' the MM.. If she would have been beautiful, then I would have said that she was beautiful.. no big deal... I really don't care... ...but in this case, I just can't get over it... she looks like a man dressed with women's clothes... eewwwww... and I know him.. he's homophobic... hahaha makes it even more strange... he can't even look at gay porn... hahaha..
Gwyneth Posted December 17, 2007 Posted December 17, 2007 Exactly.. well said... she also is not holding her part of the deal... I also agree with Marlena.. it just doesn't make any sense. They met when they were 18 and 14. They married when he was 22 and she was 18. They were both virgins, never had sex before the M... (another silly thing).. anyway. It took weeks before she agreed to let him 'in".. it was too painful. He always thought that 'couples' didn't have sex more than once a month... he has nothing to compare... then. I honestly don't believe that, at 22, you know that this person is the 'one' and you will be with her/him all your life... this is ridiculous. I feel relationships are like 'jobs'... we can't say we will keep the same work all our lives.. some do...but most don't... we might love our job one day and 'hate' it the next. People change all the time.. it's normal. I agree with you and Marlena about this one. I also do not believe in vows. Just like the law, vows can Easily be broken. Who is to tell me a vow is a contract? A contract of what--my life and actions? I don't even know if I believe in marriage. Especially these days--cheating is the latest trend it seems. Or has it Always been the trend?
Author Lizzie60 Posted December 17, 2007 Author Posted December 17, 2007 I agree with you and Marlena about this one. I also do not believe in vows. Just like the law, vows can Easily be broken. Who is to tell me a vow is a contract? A contract of what--my life and actions? I don't even know if I believe in marriage. Especially these days--cheating is the latest trend it seems. Or has it Always been the trend? No I think that.. it's only easier these days and more accessible... thanks to the Internet and society in general. We are more open about sex... We are living in a disposable society... and that includes relationships.
Lyssa Posted December 17, 2007 Posted December 17, 2007 Few years ago, M was the first thing I wanted to get into! Now, I don't think much about it. I have other things to take care of and BF and I still have a long way to go. Anything can happen so why rush it?
JamieA Posted December 17, 2007 Posted December 17, 2007 So to she who preaches: What if there are no vows? I call my lover the MM & her the W because they have been together so long & have 3 children together. What if there are no vows to be broken? I asked him if he wanted to ever marry her & his answer was "My Mama didn't raise a fool." Aren't they in fact 'sinners' in your eyes because they 'live in sin' & procreate bastards? I on the other hand am breaking my vows to my husband but that's my choice. And I honestly don't give a damn for the time being.
marlena Posted December 17, 2007 Posted December 17, 2007 Men throughout History have always had lovers.. concubines, courtesans, mistresses. It was even more acceptable than it is today. Nowadays, it is more out in the open. .. and yes, like Lizzie said, more accessible.
NoIDidn't Posted December 17, 2007 Posted December 17, 2007 As always, I am away when threads like this are started! LOL! I wonder why no one else has said THIS though? If his W looks like a horse, supposedly? What the heck do we think HE looks like after being married for 28 years? Let's face it. Most men that have been married for 28 years have earned a spare tire, unruly chest and nose hairs, and some kind of chronic illness!!! Of course, this is my opinion. LOL! But I can't imagine that a guy married to a horse looks any different than Mr. Ed himself.
Impudent Oyster Posted December 17, 2007 Posted December 17, 2007 I wonder why no one else has said THIS though? If his W looks like a horse, supposedly? What the heck do we think HE looks like after being married for 28 years? Oh I'm sure he's just a stunning physical speciman, a real Adonis who is a highly skilled lover, like all of Lizzie's "dates".
Impudent Oyster Posted December 17, 2007 Posted December 17, 2007 Lizzie, I wouldn't even bother arguing with some of these people. What is the OW supposed to do, Compliment the wife? They might not want to make their jealousy quite so obvious, that's all.
OWoman Posted December 17, 2007 Posted December 17, 2007 If his W looks like a horse, supposedly? What the heck do we think HE looks like after being married for 28 years? Let's face it. Most men that have been married for 28 years have earned a spare tire, unruly chest and nose hairs, and some kind of chronic illness!!! Of course, this is my opinion. LOL! NID, we were having a similar discussion just the other day! The guys were arguing that men let themselves go as they age - the pick up weight, dress funny and sprout hair in the wrong places (while losing it elsewhere). The women were arguing the same about the women (aside from losing hair). Seems each gender was more critical of their own kind. So we sat down and kept score as each couple came in to the coffee shop - we rated the man out of 10 and the woman out of 10 on a list of factors (overweight, dressed funny, etc) and totalled them up and compared notes at the end. Men came out ahead at the end - as in, less gone to seed - but that was because there were more older men / younger woman couples so that didn't really count. (Those men generally made more effort.) On equally aged couples it would probably have come out equal. Perhaps when people are together for long they just stop trying?
marlena Posted December 17, 2007 Posted December 17, 2007 OW, Hey! I really liked that game! Interesting! I think I'll suggest it to my girlfriends next time we go out! What a fun way to pass the time!!!
NoIDidn't Posted December 17, 2007 Posted December 17, 2007 NID, we were having a similar discussion just the other day! The guys were arguing that men let themselves go as they age - the pick up weight, dress funny and sprout hair in the wrong places (while losing it elsewhere). The women were arguing the same about the women (aside from losing hair). Seems each gender was more critical of their own kind. So we sat down and kept score as each couple came in to the coffee shop - we rated the man out of 10 and the woman out of 10 on a list of factors (overweight, dressed funny, etc) and totalled them up and compared notes at the end. Men came out ahead at the end - as in, less gone to seed - but that was because there were more older men / younger woman couples so that didn't really count. (Those men generally made more effort.) On equally aged couples it would probably have come out equal. Perhaps when people are together for long they just stop trying? I don't think it has as much to do with being WITH someone as its just human nature. If no one pays you any attention, you are likely to stop caring about your appearance as much as when you felt you were hot stuff. Married or not. Some people are just more vain than others, I guess. On the topic of men coming out ahead, I have a jaded view of that. Older women are almost always stereotyped as, well, old. Older men are considered to have a "weathered" look that's attractive and not "old". Just take a look at models. Male models can do so for far longer than their female counterparts because of this distorted view that as a woman's body changes she is considered less attractive while a man is considered moreso. I do it too. I think my H is far more attractive now than he was when we married. And maybe someone out their does think that I look like an iguana. And they might be right. LOL!! Maybe my H likes having a W that doubles as a pet!
OWoman Posted December 17, 2007 Posted December 17, 2007 I don't think it has as much to do with being WITH someone as its just human nature. If no one pays you any attention' date=' you are likely to stop caring about your appearance as much as when you felt you were hot stuff. Married or not. Some people are just more vain than others, I guess.[/quote'] I suppose if an older guy is out with a hot young thing, he needs to keep on his toes to stop her trading him in for something better. Unless, of course, he's Bill Gates or Warren Buffet and can buy her attention another way On the topic of men coming out ahead' date=' I have a jaded view of that. Older women are almost always stereotyped as, well, old. Older men are considered to have a "weathered" look that's attractive and not "old". Just take a look at models. Male models can do so for far longer than their female counterparts because of this distorted view that as a woman's body changes she is considered less attractive while a man is considered moreso.[/quote'] Maybe. We didn't go for subjective measures like "attractive", we stuck to things like evidence of a spare tyre under that baggy jersey; clothes that looked old enough to be out without their parents late at night; facial or body hair that really oughtn't to be there... that kinda thing. Oh, the "facial hair" thing included bad 70s moustaches for guys, so perhaps that was subjective. They might have thought Tom Selleck was still in fashion. I do it too. I think my H is far more attractive now than he was when we married. And maybe someone out their does think that I look like an iguana. And they might be right. LOL!! Maybe my H likes having a W that doubles as a pet! NID don't knock a sense of humour as one of the major attractive features in older people of either sex! When it came to wrinkles, everyone agreed that frown lines were a negative feature but laugh lines made men AND women far more attractive than an unlined face!
NoIDidn't Posted December 17, 2007 Posted December 17, 2007 We didn't go for subjective measures like "attractive", we stuck to things like evidence of a spare tyre under that baggy jersey; clothes that looked old enough to be out without their parents late at night; facial or body hair that really oughtn't to be there... that kinda thing. Oh, the "facial hair" thing included bad 70s moustaches for guys, so perhaps that was subjective. They might have thought Tom Selleck was still in fashion. Oh, that isn't fair to women at all. LOL!!! For those of us that had kids and the unfortunate genetic tendency to continue to look pregnant even when not (thin or not too, ha ha), we automatically incur negative points. Boo hoo. NID don't knock a sense of humour as one of the major attractive features in older people of either sex! When it came to wrinkles, everyone agreed that frown lines were a negative feature but laugh lines made men AND women far more attractive than an unlined face! I wonder if iguanas have frown lines or laugh lines? LOL!! Thank God I don't have wrinkles, yet. Now if I could just get rid of the stray "hair", I'd be just alright.
OWoman Posted December 17, 2007 Posted December 17, 2007 Oh' date=' that isn't fair to women at all. LOL!!! For those of us that had kids and the unfortunate genetic tendency to continue to look pregnant even when not (thin or not too, ha ha), we automatically incur negative points. Boo hoo.[/quote'] You'd be amazed at how many MEN looked pregnant. With triplets. Way past due date. Even with that funny waddle that pregnant women do. Maybe they're always around. But once you start looking, and counting, it gets pretty scary. Quite put us off our cheesecake.
Gwyneth Posted December 17, 2007 Posted December 17, 2007 As always, I am away when threads like this are started! LOL! I wonder why no one else has said THIS though? If his W looks like a horse, supposedly? What the heck do we think HE looks like after being married for 28 years? Let's face it. Most men that have been married for 28 years have earned a spare tire, unruly chest and nose hairs, and some kind of chronic illness!!! Of course, this is my opinion. LOL! But I can't imagine that a guy married to a horse looks any different than Mr. Ed himself. :laugh:
Author Lizzie60 Posted December 17, 2007 Author Posted December 17, 2007 As always, I am away when threads like this are started! LOL! I wonder why no one else has said THIS though? If his W looks like a horse, supposedly? What the heck do we think HE looks like after being married for 28 years? Let's face it. Most men that have been married for 28 years have earned a spare tire, unruly chest and nose hairs, and some kind of chronic illness!!! Of course, this is my opinion. LOL! But I can't imagine that a guy married to a horse looks any different than Mr. Ed himself. Yes I agree most men do lose their charm... but in this case, he's only 46... and he is much slimmer than she is... she's not overweight...but she is a big piece of woman ... she's heavier than he is for sure. He is thin, even a little too thin for my taste... but he's well endowed.. LOL
NoIDidn't Posted December 17, 2007 Posted December 17, 2007 ...but he's well endowed... Most horses are! LOL!!!!
Author Lizzie60 Posted December 17, 2007 Author Posted December 17, 2007 OW, Hey! I really liked that game! Interesting! I think I'll suggest it to my girlfriends next time we go out! What a fun way to pass the time!!! I do that sometimes... just to check how many men I meet (let's say in a shopping mall or on the streets) I would find attractive.. Test: check out the first 20 men you meet, (10 more or less from your age) either on the street or in a shopping mall... count how many you find attractive... LOL... most of the time.. it's 0... It's a test I do with my girlfriend sometimes.. as she is also on the 'cruise' LOL...
OWoman Posted December 17, 2007 Posted December 17, 2007 Most horses are! LOL!!!! unless they've been gelded.
Author Lizzie60 Posted December 17, 2007 Author Posted December 17, 2007 Most horses are! LOL!!!! hahaha.. she's the one who looks like the horse, not him...
Havn_a_life Posted December 18, 2007 Posted December 18, 2007 I bet she's not.. I can promise you she's not any worse. Wonder if she posts on boards about you?
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