Phateless Posted December 4, 2007 Posted December 4, 2007 The male consensus that I keep hearing is that girls give crappy advice on girls. I'm not sure what to think about this. Since my speciality around here seems to be starting controversial threads and instigating flame wars, I figured I might as well play to my strengths. So what do you guys think? I don't really buy this, but a lot of guys who have A LOT of game swear it's true. Thoughts? btw, I met another one sat. night (lol yeah I know) and her friend is giving me advice on how to pursue her. Not sure if I should listen to her or play it my own way.
Ocean-Blue Posted December 4, 2007 Posted December 4, 2007 The male consensus that I keep hearing is that girls give crappy advice on girls. I'm not sure what to think about this. Since my speciality around here seems to be starting controversial threads and instigating flame wars, I figured I might as well play to my strengths. So what do you guys think? I don't really buy this, but a lot of guys who have A LOT of game swear it's true. Thoughts? btw, I met another one sat. night (lol yeah I know) and her friend is giving me advice on how to pursue her. Not sure if I should listen to her or play it my own way. Consider your source...if by guys who have "game" you mean players, then I'm not surprised they told you what they did. Think about it...their goal is to "just" get the girl (read: screw her). Usually a player does not pursue a woman because he wants a relationship with her...and thus, any advice he receives from other women is moot (b/c such advice more relationship oriented). That said, no one gender gives the best advice on either sex. You have to always remember who it is you're talking to (i.e. bimbo who thinks incessantly about her hair colour vs. nice, down to earth girl who is thoughtful).
KittenMoon Posted December 4, 2007 Posted December 4, 2007 I don't really buy this, but a lot of guys who have A LOT of game swear it's true. Thoughts? Well, if the guys with a lot of game swear it's true.... :rolleyes: Girls will give you the best advice on girls, but only if they are girls w/ no emotional stake in the other chick's potential success.
Author Phateless Posted December 4, 2007 Author Posted December 4, 2007 Well, if the guys with a lot of game swear it's true.... :rolleyes: Girls will give you the best advice on girls, but only if they are girls w/ no emotional stake in the other chick's potential success. Interesting... I think this girl wants her friend to be happy... I hadn't even thought of that. The girl giving advice is a master game player, and she's the one who killed my inner nice guy, so I'm inclined to trust her guidance, lol.
Star Gazer Posted December 4, 2007 Posted December 4, 2007 I wouldn't trust a real-life friend of the opposite sex to give me dating advice unless they're married or gay. You just can never trust that they might have an ulterior motive for leading you astray.
Author Phateless Posted December 4, 2007 Author Posted December 4, 2007 I wouldn't trust a real-life friend of the opposite sex to give me dating advice unless they're married or gay. You just can never trust that they might have an ulterior motive for leading you astray. i can't imagine what her ulterior motive could be at this point...
Star Gazer Posted December 4, 2007 Posted December 4, 2007 i can't imagine what her ulterior motive could be at this point... Women can be helpful. They can also be manipulative and conniving. If she secretly doesn't want to share you with the girl you're into, or doesn't think the girl is worthy, she could very well give you advice to intentionally cause you to be unsuccessful. As Tanbark would say, "If you want to know how guy's work, ask a guy." The same holds true with women. And these players who have "game," have just that: GAME. I sense you're really looking for something more meaningful, right? Then those dudes clearly aren't the ones you should be listening to...
Author Phateless Posted December 4, 2007 Author Posted December 4, 2007 this is a quote " NO don't call her, text her!!, she said she won't call or talk to guys on the phone, until a little later, once she is more comfy. "
Star Gazer Posted December 4, 2007 Posted December 4, 2007 this is a quote " NO don't call her, text her!!, she said she won't call or talk to guys on the phone, until a little later, once she is more comfy. " Texting is a sign of either pure laziness and cowardice. A MAN actually CALLS. If she's uncomfortable with a phone call, would you really want to date her? Just my two cents.
norajane Posted December 4, 2007 Posted December 4, 2007 this is a quote " NO don't call her, text her!!, she said she won't call or talk to guys on the phone, until a little later, once she is more comfy. " Is she 12? If not, CALL her. Better yet, you see her in person, don't you? Talk to her then, flirt with her, and at the end of the evening, ask her when you can see her again.
Trialbyfire Posted December 4, 2007 Posted December 4, 2007 Phateless, you don't strike me as a guy who's looking for anything long-term right now. If you're looking for a quick bang, listen to guys who game. If I'm wrong and you're looking for a girl for an LTR, listen to someone who reminds you of the girl you're pursuing, or are interested in pursuing. Too many guys either fool themselves in what they really want or will go to any lengths, just to get laid.
Author Phateless Posted December 4, 2007 Author Posted December 4, 2007 well saturday was the 2nd time i met her, and we danced and i got a few soft pecks on the lips, and at the end of the night she told me i should call her and gave me her number. she then facebooked me as soon as she got home. Now my friend's telling me NOT to call but text instead, hence the confusion. friend says i should go slow and not scare her off, and let her come to me.
Star Gazer Posted December 4, 2007 Posted December 4, 2007 well saturday was the 2nd time i met her, and we danced and i got a few soft pecks on the lips, and at the end of the night she told me i should call her and gave me her number. she then facebooked me as soon as she got home. Now my friend's telling me NOT to call but text instead, hence the confusion I'd recommend following the instructions/suggestion of the girl you're interested in, not your friend. If you text her instead of calling her, she's going to think, "Dude, I told him to CALL me. He takes the chicken-sh*t route and TEXTS me? What's that about? He's too important to actually CALL?? LAME. I'm SO not responding." That's what she's going to think. Is that really difficult to understand?
Author Phateless Posted December 4, 2007 Author Posted December 4, 2007 I'd recommend following the instructions/suggestion of the girl you're interested in, not your friend. If you text her instead of calling her, she's going to think, "Dude, I told him to CALL me. He takes the chicken-sh*t route and TEXTS me? What's that about? He's too important to actually CALL?? LAME. I'm SO not responding." That's what she's going to think. Is that really difficult to understand? No. I'd just rather not scare her off if I can avoid it.
latefragment Posted December 4, 2007 Posted December 4, 2007 if she asked you to call, PLEASE call. don't listen to the friend. it doesn't get any more straightforward than straight from the horse's mouth!
norajane Posted December 4, 2007 Posted December 4, 2007 well saturday was the 2nd time i met her, and we danced and i got a few soft pecks on the lips, and at the end of the night she told me i should call her and gave me her number. she then facebooked me as soon as she got home. Then you clearly are not listening if you're debating on text vs. call. She TOLD you straight out to call her. What are you waiting for? Are you AFRAID to call and talk to her? Do you like her friend's suggestion better because you'd rather text her than talk to her?
Star Gazer Posted December 4, 2007 Posted December 4, 2007 No. I'd just rather not scare her off if I can avoid it. Again, if a simple freaking phone call would scare her off (although I reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeally don't think it would), would you even want to date her at all? Who's scared of a freakin' phone call. She ASKED YOU to CALL her. So help me, don't make me come over there and hit you upside the head with my "fake tits."
oppath Posted December 4, 2007 Posted December 4, 2007 You call, make it brief and flirty, possibly suggesting meeting up in a few days, then you get off the phone first. There are any number of variations. They don't matter if the woman has high interest. You call. You chat. You arrange a meeting. then, you text to say "I can't wait to unwind after work. Are we still on for 7 at xyz?" Again, it doesn't matter. I think there is lots of room for error if she likes you and would be interested in getting to know you better. When it comes to game, there is not much error in getting her to take off her pants on the first date or two, but for the initial date, if she is someone you have met a couple times, there is a big grey area on how to proceed. There is no right or wrong way. Just call.
Author Phateless Posted December 4, 2007 Author Posted December 4, 2007 I called when I got out of my last class at 9:45 pm. Probably too late I know but I was sick of thinking about it, lol. I left a message telling her I had fun hanging out with her and I want to hang out again soon. We'll see what happens. on a sidenote, I realized today that I'm terrified of calling girls, and that's why I often procrastinate. So from now on, I'm calling every single number I get, no matter what. Whatever this weird fear is, I have to kill it quick.
Author Phateless Posted December 4, 2007 Author Posted December 4, 2007 Again, if a simple freaking phone call would scare her off (although I reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeally don't think it would), would you even want to date her at all? Who's scared of a freakin' phone call. She ASKED YOU to CALL her. So help me, don't make me come over there and hit you upside the head with my "fake tits." LOL!!! I see somebody's holding a little grudge... Thanks for your support though, I really do appreciate it. Thanks you guys, for letting me obsess. It's amazing, when I'm out with my friends, I'm almost fearless, and I have great game, but a day or two later, the thought of calling her literally makes me freak out. WTF is that about??
Cobra_X30 Posted December 4, 2007 Posted December 4, 2007 on a sidenote, I realized today that I'm terrified of calling girls, and that's why I often procrastinate. So from now on, I'm calling every single number I get, no matter what. Whatever this weird fear is, I have to kill it quick. Yes, that is exactly how you kill fear of rejection! Take it head on! Now, to the original point of your post. Yes, most girls give the crappiest advice ever about other girls. Here is the exception. WhichWayIsUp, NoraJane, LadyJane, and a select few others tend to have the straight poop! So, what I am saying is definitely listen to the women, they give better advice on everything!
Author Phateless Posted December 4, 2007 Author Posted December 4, 2007 Thanks, I'll definitely keep that in mind! I've got two more numbers to call tomorrow, I think most of the other ones I've got recently are probably stale by now.
Pedigree Posted December 4, 2007 Posted December 4, 2007 I realized today that I'm terrified of calling girls, and that's why I often procrastinate At least we now know why you procrastinate .
Author Phateless Posted December 4, 2007 Author Posted December 4, 2007 At least we now know why you procrastinate . LOL, we know why I procrastinate about that! What about school???
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