Jilly Bean Posted December 1, 2007 Posted December 1, 2007 And like your own post as I quoted above, I guess based on your own statement that YOU are doing it with every guy because YOU feel that all you have that is worthy to a man is sex? Is that why you freaked out on the last guy and wondered if it was "salvageable"? Because without sex you weren't worth ANYTHING to him? Isn't that what he admitted to you as well? Poor thing. I'm so sorry you feel that way. All of us sluts who have sex on the first date will be lining up to give you sympathy hugs... not. Huh? Once again, you're showing your ignorance. Excerpting threads can be dangerous. Again, pathetic to try and dig out other posts... And no need to line up, hon. I'd be afraid of what diseases you might have... Again, try harder, as I know you are - you're still not even close...
Star Gazer Posted December 1, 2007 Posted December 1, 2007 And did I ever say I was not sleeping with other guys while I was doing that? No, so your point is...? All I said is that women who sleep with a guy on date one are probably doing it with others. You STILL don't seem to be able to read very well... Again, you totally missed the point....LMAO. Try harder, babe. You're still not in the ballpark... Exactly. YOU said this: Well, Kamille, the irony is that I have ALWAYS followed my sexual impulses in the past, and had sex whenever I felt like it. Which, was often the first or second date. In THIS thread, you have said that a woman who sleeps with a guy on the first date (uh, given your previous voluntary admissions, such a woman would be YOU) is a slut. Is easy. Is guaranteed sleeping around with other guys. I find that odd. Why would you call yourself those names? Oh well. Not my issue, only yours.
Star Gazer Posted December 1, 2007 Posted December 1, 2007 I think the fact that you tried to find supporting documentation shows how upset you are. If you were that unaffected, it would have been dropped. But no...you couldn't let it go! So, all you did by opening it up, and getting your girl to write in, was to support what I said allll along. My argument stands. But, I am sure you will research some internet study on female promiscuity. I never said I wasn't offended. Obviously, I was. But I realize I shouldn't be, because I'm no hypocrite. And you're all the research I need. Huh? Once again, you're showing your ignorance. Excerpting threads can be dangerous. Again, pathetic to try and dig out other posts... And no need to line up, hon. I'd be afraid of what diseases you might have... Again, try harder, as I know you are - you're still not even close... I didn't except anything. I recalled your experience of gettin' it on early, it was very recently, and found the hypocrisy hysterical, so I went and quoted your statement. The quote I used links any reader here directly to the entire post and thread. Full, open disclosure. I feel really sorry for you, JillyBean. You should feel better about yourself, and not resort to silly namecalling. Projection of this type really isn't attractive on you. Have a good night.
underpants Posted December 1, 2007 Posted December 1, 2007 All this sexual frustration....my, my... I bet Jared is doing it right now. Anyway, it is not his first date with this lady. They are 3 weeks in. I do kind of worry that everyday so soon....there is a risk of a crash and burn. My point is do what you want, but it would be wise to make sure both parties understand and are accepting of what that next step means to both. That is where a little patience is a good thing. All about respect. Yes some people habitually seek out sex first then relationship, or no relationship. Some don't. Some think that sex seals the deal on a relationship, where others don't. That is where the uncomfortable conversations are wonderfully enlightning.
KenzieAbsolutely Posted December 1, 2007 Posted December 1, 2007 people like jared should be thankful for girls who make the 'mistake' he's talking about, or he would probably never get laid.
Author plainoldjared Posted December 18, 2007 Author Posted December 18, 2007 I love it when guys call each other "bro" when they are discussing relationships (or anything beyond sports, sex or work). You guys did it twice in this thread. Hehe yes we totally use "bro" when discussing anything with a fellow bro
Author plainoldjared Posted December 18, 2007 Author Posted December 18, 2007 Jared you are asking for problems from the women hahaha As far as me would I be offended , probaly not.. if we have been a few dates and I really like you and feel a connection with you and the night was going great , i would. but if i came over and everything seemed pre planned , then I wouldnt. like for instance massage oils is out on the table , condoms, etc.. hahahaha Hehe no kidding, today was my first opportunity to check the responses and it was entertaining to say the least (damn work) my goal was to get some opinions on this question so that I could better think of my conclusion. I was dealing with 2 issues: first wanting to taking my not so seriuos relationship further and two understanding that men and women think differently and I did not want to offend or disrespect my sweet and very cool lady friend. I do have an update and will be posting that shortly ... Thanks again Eyecandy for taking the time to respond and a good response at that. I do appreciate it I'm sorry your opinion of women is such that you don't think they can be both classy and comfortable with their sexuality. I don't refuse to believe it. I'm sure sometimes it is the case. Other times it's not. Not everyone is the same. Girls (and guys for that matter) vary in libido, number of concurrent partners, etc... It's not as simple as, "Oh she has sex therefore she's a slut and is banging 200 dudes." Tan wanted to say thanks again, its confusing when you have two opinions and one is influenced by consensus... I respect her so Im trying to be extra thoughtful in my decisions Whoa talk about side-tracking guys. After all, Jared and this girl have been hanging out for more then one date. And plus, what with all the moral judgments passed upon fellow sisters who enjoy sleeping with Tan on their first date? Who's to say why a girl opens or doesn't open her legs? I wouldn't be upset that you demonstrated that you are sexually attracted to me, or that you hinted that you would like things to go further. I mean, as a woman I assume that if a man bothers to cook me a nice dinner, it usually means he's most likely sexually attracted to me. I assume that if I am dating a guy it is because he is attracted to me. But then, if you do sleep with her, there is a slight possibility that she might interpret that as a sign that you two are getting more serious. I mean, I think women are responsible for themselves and it is up to them to decide wether or not they want to have sex before knowing that they are indeed in a relationship. But the fact is, a good percentage of women (and to be like Tan I'll venture a 70%) feel vulnerable after having sex with a guy - especially when they're not in a committed relationship. And vulnerable women get insecure and insecure. And this is usually when you find them on LS trying to figure out what they did wrong when really, a simple phone call from the guy would have made a world of difference for their self-esteem. If you have sex with her while dating, please be a stand up gentleman and show her that you still think she is great the after the act. Call her, take her out, tell her she's beautiful, make her feel special. That way she will continue to be herself and confident when she is around you. If you're not sure that you'd be ready to do that, then please wait before bedding - or offering to bed her. Kamille you truly understand my situation... I do like her and I respect her and the last thing I want to do is damage the good thing we have going, hence my hesitation to just do what I naturally want to do.
Author plainoldjared Posted December 18, 2007 Author Posted December 18, 2007 Sex n dating go hand in hand for me, I don't have to be in a commited relationship to enjoy sex with someone I am attracted too. That said its not the same for alot of women especially but not exculsively younger ladies cannot disassociate feelings and sex, to just enjoy sex in its own right. Go for it, see if she is up for it, I am sure if you are not too pushy she will let you know either way what she is comfortable with. If you are understanding if she is not comfortable yet, she may actually feel more comfortable in giving herself over to you because you are understanding. Hope that makes sense, I have been out drinking and just got in!!! Thanks for your input my dear and yes that makes perfect sense
Author plainoldjared Posted December 18, 2007 Author Posted December 18, 2007 people like jared should be thankful for girls who make the 'mistake' he's talking about, or he would probably never get laid. Kenzie your short statement is so completely off subject inaccurate and unrelated you should just cancel your account and spare us any more moronic responses. I'd like to know why youre so negative, you must have been hurt as a child, however I can only assume that your response will be less than adequate which again makes me feel even sorrier for you...
Author plainoldjared Posted December 19, 2007 Author Posted December 19, 2007 So to make a long story short... She came over we had a great dinner and of course great conversation She started the conversation with a disclaimer, her exact words were "I hope this wont change things but how do you feel about us?" I told her I was sO glad she brought it up, I was having conflict in my head and just didnt know how to approach her. She said she likes me and can see herself dating me for a long time but she's at a very hectic point in her life and doesnt know if she can handle being in a serious relationship without feeling like she is neglecting me. I told her that I really like her too, shes sweet and I enjoy her company and I agree that we shouldnt move to fast and I tried to make it very clear that I really enjoy spending time with her. I am seriously liking how in tune she is with me, and I feel myself liking her more as time passes... we spent the rest of the weekend together and it was great, we both like our current situation and Im loving that
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