Jilly Bean Posted November 30, 2007 Posted November 30, 2007 I agree that it's likely. But there's a difference between sleeping with each person you date on the first date, but only one at a time, and sleeping with 5 guys at a time. And also if you are having 4 first dates in one week...
tanbark813 Posted November 30, 2007 Posted November 30, 2007 Sorry to jared for hijacking but there's another thing I find interesting about this thread. A common complaint from women is that men can sleep around and be considered studs whereas women who sleep around are often considered sluts. But then you read through this thread and it's mostly women who are bashing on women who have sex on the first date. Like I said earlier in this thread: I've slept with a woman I was genuinely interested in on the first date while not sleeping with others. I may be arrogant but even I don't believe that I'm special enough to be the only person who has done that. Nor do I believe that that's strictly a male phenomenon. If anything, it seems like the sort of thing that would more likely be a female characteristic. What I honestly don't get is how women don't think it's possible for another woman to sleep with a guy on the first date but yet be genuinely interested in him and not sleeping with other people. Do you women really think so poorly about each other?
Jilly Bean Posted November 30, 2007 Posted November 30, 2007 No, we just know women better than you do...
I Luv the Chariot OH Posted November 30, 2007 Posted November 30, 2007 What I honestly don't get is how women don't think it's possible for another woman to sleep with a guy on the first date but yet be genuinely interested in him and not sleeping with other people. Do you women really think so poorly about each other? It's possible, just like it's possible to eat McDonald's every day of your life and not get fat. (Meaning, it's just not likely.) The only problem I had with anything you said was "90% of girls have sex on the first date". No. Sorry. Try again.
underpants Posted November 30, 2007 Posted November 30, 2007 What the heck happened in here. I think Tan is speaking from his experiences not making generalizations toward all women. Although....Tanny, keep that lion in the den for a little bit my friend. I only suggest holding off a bit more so that Jared can really get a sense to if this girl is genuine relationship material. I don't want him to get hurt or to hurt someone else. This I feel is his overall goal too (sex aside). Besides Jared if you respectfully give the decision over to her then she will gain the confidence to persue you and jump your bones (if that be her wish). Let her know you are interested and what that does mean to you, beyond the act. You do know that seduction begins with the mind, right? Go get her tiger.
tanbark813 Posted November 30, 2007 Posted November 30, 2007 It's possible, just like it's possible to eat McDonald's every day of your life and not get fat. (Meaning, it's just not likely.) The only problem I had with anything you said was "90% of girls have sex on the first date". No. Sorry. Try again. I should qualify that. That number is only the girls I actually wanted to sleep with. There were, of course, ones that I didn't so I have no idea if they would have or not. I think Tan is speaking from his experiences not making generalizations toward all women. That is correct.
I Luv the Chariot OH Posted November 30, 2007 Posted November 30, 2007 That is correct. That's certainly not how you phrased it the first time you said it! I guess it just takes ten people calling you out for you to modify the original statement, hmm?
tanbark813 Posted November 30, 2007 Posted November 30, 2007 That's certainly not how you phrased it the first time you said it! I guess it just takes ten people calling you out for you to modify the original statement, hmm? Apparently you missed my post at the bottom of page two where I specified I was just speaking from personal experience.
tanbark813 Posted November 30, 2007 Posted November 30, 2007 No, we just know women better than you do... I wouldn't be so sure. According to this: http://www.loveshack.org/forums/showthread.php?p=1430364 ...so far 4 out of 7 women have claimed to have slept with a guy on the first date without having been sleeping with others at the time.
Jilly Bean Posted December 1, 2007 Posted December 1, 2007 You're kidding me, right? You took this to the point of trying to find backup to refute my statement? Oh, Barkie - I am so sorry! Your ego must be smarting by the thought that your "good girls" who put out on date one were also banging others... You must be feeling defensive about your partners and their quality, hon, and for that I am sorry. Truly. Wasn't trying to cause you any kind of distress from the posts. But, I'm not sure your sampling of 7 women on a dating site is very accurate. lol. I mean, by your logic, the 4 women responding to this thread all agreed with me. And your point is...?
Star Gazer Posted December 1, 2007 Posted December 1, 2007 But in all seriousness, don't worry about it. I've never had a girl get mad for wanting sex before getting into a relationship. Most people operate that way anyway. Seriously. Here's a generalization that's actually most likely true: MOST women believe that a guy WILL WANT to sleep with them once they're dating, and that includes BEFORE a formal relationship is actually established. But the point is, I'm not in your 90% of girls who will screw on the first date. If she is willing to open her legs that easily for you, be sure as s**t that she is doing it with plenty of other guys (even though I am sure there was the disclaimer of "I've never done this before" lol). A little insight - if she's banging you on date one, you're NOT the only one. We're not bashing the quality of your, er, dates. Just be aware that if a girl is easy, she's easy with everyone. But as I said to him, if she puts out, then he has his answer on the type of girl she is, and what her intentions are. A woman who is sexual is not slutty. But, a woman who is screwing around on a first date is most likely doing that with EVERY guy. It's not one-off behavior, is my point. It's a lifestyle choice... This is all crazy talk! Speak for yourself, lady. I, for one, am neither a slut or an easy lay. However, I have had sex on the first date. Unfortunately, it's women like you and your opinion of women who are comfortable with their sexuality that makes many other gals fearful of owning their sexuality and admitting to things they enjoy. You make them feel as though they should feel shamed. I'm sorry your opinion of women is such that you don't think they can be both classy and comfortable with their sexuality. I don't refuse to believe it. I'm sure sometimes it is the case. Other times it's not. Not everyone is the same. Girls (and guys for that matter) vary in libido, number of concurrent partners, etc... It's not as simple as, "Oh she has sex therefore she's a slut and is banging 200 dudes." Exactly. And the other thread is proof that JillyBean is very, very wrong.
tanbark813 Posted December 1, 2007 Posted December 1, 2007 You're kidding me, right? You took this to the point of trying to find backup to refute my statement? Oh, Barkie - I am so sorry! Your ego must be smarting by the thought that your "good girls" who put out on date one were also banging others... You must be feeling defensive about your partners and their quality, hon, and for that I am sorry. Truly. Wasn't trying to cause you any kind of distress from the posts. I'm not distressed at all. I was genuinely curious about women's experiences. And I don't know who you think you are trying to claim you know more about the people I've been with than I do. That is an ego. But, I'm not sure your sampling of 7 women on a dating site is very accurate. lol. I mean, by your logic, the 4 women responding to this thread all agreed with me. And your point is...? That it's not unlikely for a woman to sleep with a man on the first date and not be sleeping with others. It's not a hard point to understand, but feel free to go to that thread and tell the other posters here how classless you think they are.
Star Gazer Posted December 1, 2007 Posted December 1, 2007 That it's not unlikely for a woman to sleep with a man on the first date and not be sleeping with others. It's not a hard point to understand, but feel free to go to that thread and tell the other posters here how classless you think they are. Yes, JillyBean. Please do.
Jilly Bean Posted December 1, 2007 Posted December 1, 2007 You missed a lot of this thread, my dear, and in so doing, you missed entirely the gist of my posts. Before you try to refute, do not embarrass yourself by not being fully informed. I'm sorry you associate the only way for a woman to be comfy with her sexuality is to screw on the first date. That's very twisted, and I'm sorry you feel that way... There is a difference between a woman who puts a different value on sex and the connection that comes with it. Many men feel this way as well. Just because someone chooses to wait to have sex, does not make them uncomfortable with their sexuality. It merely illustrates someone who puts a different emphasis on sex. My point, since you failed to get it the first time, is that women who put out on date one, are probably doing the same with every guy. It's sad that women feel the need to do this in order to keep a guy, and maybe that has been your experience?
Star Gazer Posted December 1, 2007 Posted December 1, 2007 You are SUCH a hypocrite!!!! Well, Kamille, the irony is that I have ALWAYS followed my sexual impulses in the past, and had sex whenever I felt like it. Which, was often the first or second date. And I haven't missed a thing, "dear." I can read.
Jilly Bean Posted December 1, 2007 Posted December 1, 2007 That it's not unlikely for a woman to sleep with a man on the first date and not be sleeping with others. It's not a hard point to understand, but feel free to go to that thread and tell the other posters here how classless you think they are. You're clearly VERY upset and I clearly hit a nerve. I never ONCE said a woman wasn't classless. That was YOUR wording. And funny you would associate that with a woman who puts out on the first date. Subliminal reaction perhaps?
tanbark813 Posted December 1, 2007 Posted December 1, 2007 My point, since you failed to get it the first time, is that women who put out on date one, are probably doing the same with every guy. My latest thread proves you wrong on that point.
tanbark813 Posted December 1, 2007 Posted December 1, 2007 You're clearly VERY upset and I clearly hit a nerve. Yeah, clearly I am. S_G, hold me back. I'm 'bout to drop the hammer up in this beyotch.
Jilly Bean Posted December 1, 2007 Posted December 1, 2007 You are SUCH a hypocrite!!!! And I haven't missed a thing, "dear." I can read. And did I ever say I was not sleeping with other guys while I was doing that? No, so your point is...? All I said is that women who sleep with a guy on date one are probably doing it with others. You STILL don't seem to be able to read very well... Again, you totally missed the point....LMAO. Try harder, babe. You're still not in the ballpark...
tanbark813 Posted December 1, 2007 Posted December 1, 2007 You are SUCH a hypocrite!!!! And I haven't missed a thing, "dear." I can read. Ohhhhhh, dang. S_G for the win.
Jilly Bean Posted December 1, 2007 Posted December 1, 2007 Yeah, clearly I am. S_G, hold me back. I'm 'bout to drop the hammer up in this beyotch. Oh, THAT is funny! Bring it little man! You are still so upset. I really am sorry that you are so affected. It's comical now, really...
Jilly Bean Posted December 1, 2007 Posted December 1, 2007 Ohhhhhh, dang. S_G for the win. Uh,no. She proved NOTHING. And I think we know which two have been OWNED... LMAO. Read a little closer, and instead of creating what you wanted me to say, try reading what was actually written... Truth will set you free, baby boy!
tanbark813 Posted December 1, 2007 Posted December 1, 2007 Oh, THAT is funny! Bring it little man! You are still so upset. I really am sorry that you are so affected. It's comical now, really... Posts like this don't get me riled up. All they do is illustrate that you've run out of logical arguments. Have a good evening.
Star Gazer Posted December 1, 2007 Posted December 1, 2007 You missed a lot of this thread, my dear, and in so doing, you missed entirely the gist of my posts. Before you try to refute, do not embarrass yourself by not being fully informed. I'm sorry you associate the only way for a woman to be comfy with her sexuality is to screw on the first date. That's very twisted, and I'm sorry you feel that way... You should be the one who's embarrassed, spouting off ridiculous generalizations while living in a glass house so full of cracks it's seconds away from shattering. Where you able to read into my post that a woman HAS to have sex on the first date in order to be comfortable with her sexuality is beyond me. Can you read? Do you understand logic? Apparently not. My point was simply that people like you who crucify women for having sex on the first date - regardless of their reason - is all the more reason why some women are so afraid to simply enjoy themselves. Then again, I'm unsure how you're able to simultaneously sleep with guys - "most often on the first or second date" - while calling women who do the very same thing you do "easy" or "slutty." My point, since you failed to get it the first time, is that women who put out on date one, are probably doing the same with every guy. It's sad that women feel the need to do this in order to keep a guy.... And like your own post as I quoted above, I guess based on your own statement that YOU are doing it with every guy because YOU feel that all you have that is worthy to a man is sex? Is that why you freaked out on the last guy and wondered if it was "salvageable"? Because without sex you weren't worth ANYTHING to him? Isn't that what he admitted to you as well? Poor thing. I'm so sorry you feel that way. All of us sluts who have sex on the first date will be lining up to give you sympathy hugs... not.
Jilly Bean Posted December 1, 2007 Posted December 1, 2007 I think the fact that you tried to find supporting documentation shows how upset you are. If you were that unaffected, it would have been dropped. But no...you couldn't let it go! So, all you did by opening it up, and getting your girl to write in, was to support what I said allll along. My argument stands. But, I am sure you will research some internet study on female promiscuity.
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