Pyro Posted November 30, 2007 Posted November 30, 2007 I never gave a woman's perspective. I gave a man's perspective. I've been with my fair share of women and not one was offended by my wanting to sleep with her. It's kind of like how almost all women say they wouldn't sleep with a guy on a first date but 90% of them still do. 90%? Seems kind of high. Where did you hear that from?
tanbark813 Posted November 30, 2007 Posted November 30, 2007 I DON'T!!!! Then you're one of the 10%. What's your target population for that absurd claim? Prostitutes? Of course not. And I don't understand how it's absurd. It's the truth.
Lauriebell82 Posted November 30, 2007 Posted November 30, 2007 What's your target population for that absurd claim? Prostitutes? LOL, oh my goodness!
Jilly Bean Posted November 30, 2007 Posted November 30, 2007 I never gave a woman's perspective. I gave a man's perspective. I've been with my fair share of women and not one was offended by my wanting to sleep with her. It's kind of like how almost all women say they wouldn't sleep with a guy on a first date but 90% of them still do. Right, but as LB pointed out, he had asked for a woman's perspective if they would be offended. I think we all know the dudes (sorry "bros") would say go for it. And tell us now what you think about the 90% who have screwed you on date 1. Because you do know if she does that, she's doing it with 4 other guys in the same week, right?
tanbark813 Posted November 30, 2007 Posted November 30, 2007 90%? Seems kind of high. Where did you hear that from? I didn't hear that from anywhere. I'm only stating what has been my experience.
Jilly Bean Posted November 30, 2007 Posted November 30, 2007 Of course not. And I don't understand how it's absurd. It's the truth. Isn't there a women's prison the Bay Area? JK, Barkie. I am sure these are fine, upstanding quality girls...
I Luv the Chariot OH Posted November 30, 2007 Posted November 30, 2007 Hey, in my experience 90% of guys are cheaters! Everyone, listen to my scientifically backed-up claim!
Lauriebell82 Posted November 30, 2007 Posted November 30, 2007 I didn't hear that from anywhere. I'm only stating what has been my experience. Well, aren't you Mr. Stud then?
Pyro Posted November 30, 2007 Posted November 30, 2007 It's kind of like how almost all women say they wouldn't sleep with a guy on a first date but 90% of them still do. I didn't hear that from anywhere. I'm only stating what has been my experience. Sounded like a generalization to me. I thought you read it somewhere.
tanbark813 Posted November 30, 2007 Posted November 30, 2007 I don't see why the women are getting so upset. I'm not bragging or trying to bash the quality of people you all date. All I'm stating is what has been my experience to help support my advice that Jared should be fine if he makes a move. And no, just because a girl sleeps with one guy doesn't mean she's sleeping with 4 others. Do you all sleep with 5 guys at a time? I doubt it.
EYECANDY000 Posted November 30, 2007 Posted November 30, 2007 Jared you are asking for problems from the women hahaha As far as me would I be offended , probaly not.. if we have been a few dates and I really like you and feel a connection with you and the night was going great , i would. but if i came over and everything seemed pre planned , then I wouldnt. like for instance massage oils is out on the table , condoms, etc.. hahahaha
I Luv the Chariot OH Posted November 30, 2007 Posted November 30, 2007 I don't see why the women are getting so upset. I'm not bragging or trying to bash the quality of people you all date. All I'm stating is what has been my experience to help support my advice that Jared should be fine if he makes a move. And no, just because a girl sleeps with one guy doesn't mean she's sleeping with 4 others. Do you all sleep with 5 guys at a time? I doubt it. Obviously your "experience" has misinformed you about how real women are. That sucks, man. Better luck next time.
Jilly Bean Posted November 30, 2007 Posted November 30, 2007 No, hon, I sleep with one at a time (except for that one time that it was three of us all at once, but we all are allowed a little experimentation, right? lol). But the point is, I'm not in your 90% of girls who will screw on the first date. If she is willing to open her legs that easily for you, be sure as s**t that she is doing it with plenty of other guys (even though I am sure there was the disclaimer of "I've never done this before" lol). But guys NEVER want to vibe on this. I know a lot of men would still like to think they were so irresistable and she couldn't control herself. A little insight - if she's banging you on date one, you're NOT the only one. We're not bashing the quality of your, er, dates. Just be aware that if a girl is easy, she's easy with everyone. My point to Jared is that if likes her, and wants to develop a relationship, best not to rush it. But as I said to him, if she puts out, then he has his answer on the type of girl she is, and what her intentions are.
Lauriebell82 Posted November 30, 2007 Posted November 30, 2007 I don't see why the women are getting so upset. I'm not bragging or trying to bash the quality of people you all date. All I'm stating is what has been my experience to help support my advice that Jared should be fine if he makes a move. And no, just because a girl sleeps with one guy doesn't mean she's sleeping with 4 others. Do you all sleep with 5 guys at a time? I doubt it. Sorry about giving you a hard time Tanbark. It's not that we are upset, just a little offended I suppose. Even though you are talking about girls you've gone out with, we still have to defend the girl population if you can understand that. Chicks before dicks, afterall!
tanbark813 Posted November 30, 2007 Posted November 30, 2007 Obviously your "experience" has misinformed you about how real women are. That sucks, man. Better luck next time. Right, because you know everyone I've dated intimately.
tanbark813 Posted November 30, 2007 Posted November 30, 2007 But guys NEVER want to vibe on this. I know a lot of men would still like to think they were so irresistable and she couldn't control herself. A little insight - if she's banging you on date one, you're NOT the only one. Again, you don't know who I'm dating. It's not that we are upset, just a little offended I suppose. Even though you are talking about girls you've gone out with, we still have to defend the girl population if you can understand that. Chicks before dicks, afterall! Defending your own gender is fine but to me it sounds like you're doing the opposite. I've slept with girls before on the first date with the intention of pursuing things relationship-wise without sleeping with other girls at the same time. If it's possible for me to do, I don't see why it's impossible for a girl to do. You're basically saying that girls are worse than guys in that sense.
I Luv the Chariot OH Posted November 30, 2007 Posted November 30, 2007 I'm making the point that your 90% overgeneralization is silly. A lot of women do have class. I'm sorry you apparently have met any.
Jilly Bean Posted November 30, 2007 Posted November 30, 2007 Again, you don't know who I'm dating. Well, of course I don't! But, your reaction substantiates my point. Guys REFUSE to believe that a girl who puts out on date one is only doing that with him and because hes special. Easy is, as easy does, and if you think otherwise, you are being foolish. You're not the first guy to not want to believe this - they all seem to not want to know the truth. It's like a woman believing "just the tip"... It may sound good in principle, but the reality is far more complex...
LiveKhaos Posted November 30, 2007 Posted November 30, 2007 Hahaha! This thread cracks me up!... Not all women give it up that easily, but my experience has been that if a girl's given it up that easily with me its because shes definitely banging another dude...probably one that I know too! And thats sure as heck been the case in the past...But hey THAT's why if they give it up on the first date then I sure as hell loose ALL respect for them right then and there.... I wouldn't even be slightly interested in starting a relationship with them AT ALL... And I would cut off ALL emotional connection I've previously had with them, and thats how I managed to differentiate booty calls from actual prospective relationships...But hey I'm just another guy, and this is just another perspective... Simple...
tanbark813 Posted November 30, 2007 Posted November 30, 2007 I'm making the point that your 90% overgeneralization is silly. A lot of women do have class. I'm sorry you apparently have met any. I'm sorry your opinion of women is such that you don't think they can be both classy and comfortable with their sexuality. But, your reaction substantiates my point. Guys REFUSE to believe that a girl who puts out on date one is only doing that with him and because hes special. Easy is, as easy does, and if you think otherwise, you are being foolish. You're not the first guy to not want to believe this - they all seem to not want to know the truth. I don't refuse to believe it. I'm sure sometimes it is the case. Other times it's not. Not everyone is the same. Girls (and guys for that matter) vary in libido, number of concurrent partners, etc... It's not as simple as, "Oh she has sex therefore she's a slut and is banging 200 dudes."
Kamille Posted November 30, 2007 Posted November 30, 2007 Whoa talk about side-tracking guys. After all, Jared and this girl have been hanging out for more then one date. And plus, what with all the moral judgments passed upon fellow sisters who enjoy sleeping with Tan on their first date? Who's to say why a girl opens or doesn't open her legs? Hi kids, I havent been to LS in about 3 weeks. I took 2 weeks off work with a week of work in between. OH very much needed vacation and YES it is finally raining Anyhow, I wanted to give everyone a little update. I ended up hanging out for 4 consecutive days with my lady friend it was fun and we had a great time and to make a long story short Im relieved to be out of my last relationship. In the little time Ive known this new girl I realized how crappy my last relationship was. I really like her Im very attracted to her, we've gotten pretty hot and kiss A LOT and Im ready to take it further physically. I want to cook a special dinner tonight, Ive been taking lessons and would like to invite her over and would like her to spend the night with me. Heres my problem we arent in a relationship we just started dating a few weeks ago so I dont want to disrespect her or cross any lines but I dont want to ruin the mood by being blunt. So my question, would you be hurt or upset that I wanted to have sex with you even though we arent in a relationship and are just dating? I mean would you be upset that I didnt ask you to be in a relationship and instead wanted to get intimate with you? Its not that I dont want to be in a relationship with her its that I dont know her well enough yet to commit like that but Ive been spending time with her and am trying to get to know her... I wouldn't be upset that you demonstrated that you are sexually attracted to me, or that you hinted that you would like things to go further. I mean, as a woman I assume that if a man bothers to cook me a nice dinner, it usually means he's most likely sexually attracted to me. I assume that if I am dating a guy it is because he is attracted to me. But then, if you do sleep with her, there is a slight possibility that she might interpret that as a sign that you two are getting more serious. I mean, I think women are responsible for themselves and it is up to them to decide wether or not they want to have sex before knowing that they are indeed in a relationship. But the fact is, a good percentage of women (and to be like Tan I'll venture a 70%) feel vulnerable after having sex with a guy - especially when they're not in a committed relationship. And vulnerable women get insecure and insecure. And this is usually when you find them on LS trying to figure out what they did wrong when really, a simple phone call from the guy would have made a world of difference for their self-esteem. If you have sex with her while dating, please be a stand up gentleman and show her that you still think she is great the after the act. Call her, take her out, tell her she's beautiful, make her feel special. That way she will continue to be herself and confident when she is around you. If you're not sure that you'd be ready to do that, then please wait before bedding - or offering to bed her.
Jilly Bean Posted November 30, 2007 Posted November 30, 2007 Girls (and guys for that matter) vary in libido, number of concurrent partners, etc... It's not as simple as, "Oh she has sex therefore she's a slut and is banging 200 dudes." That's not what I said, Barkie. A woman who is sexual is not slutty. But, a woman who is screwing around on a first date is most likely doing that with EVERY guy. It's not one-off behavior, is my point. It's a lifestyle choice...
tanbark813 Posted November 30, 2007 Posted November 30, 2007 That's not what I said, Barkie. A woman who is sexual is not slutty. But, a woman who is screwing around on a first date is most likely doing that with EVERY guy. It's not one-off behavior, is my point. It's a lifestyle choice... I agree that it's likely. But there's a difference between sleeping with each person you date on the first date, but only one at a time, and sleeping with 5 guys at a time.
bigheartkindsoul Posted November 30, 2007 Posted November 30, 2007 Hi kids, I havent been to LS in about 3 weeks. I took 2 weeks off work with a week of work in between. OH very much needed vacation and YES it is finally raining Anyhow, I wanted to give everyone a little update. I ended up hanging out for 4 consecutive days with my lady friend it was fun and we had a great time and to make a long story short Im relieved to be out of my last relationship. In the little time Ive known this new girl I realized how crappy my last relationship was. I really like her Im very attracted to her, we've gotten pretty hot and kiss A LOT and Im ready to take it further physically. I want to cook a special dinner tonight, Ive been taking lessons and would like to invite her over and would like her to spend the night with me. Heres my problem we arent in a relationship we just started dating a few weeks ago so I dont want to disrespect her or cross any lines but I dont want to ruin the mood by being blunt. So my question, would you be hurt or upset that I wanted to have sex with you even though we arent in a relationship and are just dating? I mean would you be upset that I didnt ask you to be in a relationship and instead wanted to get intimate with you? Its not that I dont want to be in a relationship with her its that I dont know her well enough yet to commit like that but Ive been spending time with her and am trying to get to know her... Sex n dating go hand in hand for me, I don't have to be in a commited relationship to enjoy sex with someone I am attracted too. That said its not the same for alot of women especially but not exculsively younger ladies cannot disassociate feelings and sex, to just enjoy sex in its own right. Go for it, see if she is up for it, I am sure if you are not too pushy she will let you know either way what she is comfortable with. If you are understanding if she is not comfortable yet, she may actually feel more comfortable in giving herself over to you because you are understanding. Hope that makes sense, I have been out drinking and just got in!!!
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