Professional White Women

[optimusprime]

For those minority men who are professionals (doctors, engineers, lawyers, professors, successful businessmen, etc.), would you say it is extremely hard to get a white woman of equal status? At this point in their career, men are probably looking for marriage or at least a long-term relationship. However, while WW (of all classes) are very willing to sleep with or date minority men, I would say a small minority of professional WW in the U.S. are willing to marry men of color. It's kind of ironic--despite the extensive education of professionals, the independent thinking that comes with greater education, and the maturity that comes with age many professional WW seem to prefer WM. In fact, I would argue that it would be easier for a successful minority male to get a lower class WW than it is for him to get a professional WW, since the money factor comes into play with the lower class WW.

 

I hate this BS. All the time you see very well educated Asian women, Black women, Latina women, and other women of color throwing themselves to WM. In fact, many times you see professional women of color marrying lower class WM. But men of color are limited in their options. I'm looking at graduate school, and I am getting somewhat worried about being able to meet a WW in medical/law/business school. Perhaps I need to go to Europe.

 

I'd appreciate responses from professional minority men or women on this issue.

[reboot]

Maybe you should find someone you love, regardless of her color, instead of looking for a status symbol.

[Chrome Barracuda]

Well the thing is I think if your a professional black man with great earning income you greater your chances of meeting and being with white women.

 

Of course. Any woman is attracted to any man with money.

 

The thing is it's all up to that person, color doesnt have anything much to do with it.

 

Have you ever seen a beautiful girl with an ugly man? lol. For example.

 

I'm a black guy and it's more complex than race.

 

But your right when your rich and she's rich at the end of the day she might just go with a white dude because that's her preference. But she may go with you because she doesnt care about skin color she just loves you for the man you are.

 

I've met all types of woman and I'm cool with alot of them but it appears to me some white girls wouldnt date me not because of money but afraid of what theyre friends or family might say about me. It's sad because I have those same fears too somewhat.

 

If your a rich black man, it's an eventual fact that you might meet attractive wealthy white woman that roll in the same circles as you.

 

Being with someone isnt all about race, class, economic standing. IT's about those two people when you boil it all down.

[Lizzie60]

For those minority men who are professionals (doctors, engineers, lawyers, professors, successful businessmen, etc.), would you say it is extremely hard to get a white woman of equal status? At this point in their career, men are probably looking for marriage or at least a long-term relationship. However, while WW (of all classes) are very willing to sleep with or date minority men, I would say a small minority of professional WW in the U.S. are willing to marry men of color. It's kind of ironic--despite the extensive education of professionals, the independent thinking that comes with greater education, and the maturity that comes with age many professional WW seem to prefer WM. In fact, I would argue that it would be easier for a successful minority male to get a lower class WW than it is for him to get a professional WW, since the money factor comes into play with the lower class WW.

 

I hate this BS. All the time you see very well educated Asian women, Black women, Latina women, and other women of color throwing themselves to WM. In fact, many times you see professional women of color marrying lower class WM. But men of color are limited in their options. I'm looking at graduate school, and I am getting somewhat worried about being able to meet a WW in medical/law/business school. Perhaps I need to go to Europe.

 

I'd appreciate responses from professional minority men or women on this issue.

 

I see no difference in the colour of the skin... I actually prefer black men.

[allina]

Well I am a white professional woman in a relationship with a non-white professional man. Race is not a factor in men I date, however I date only college educated, professional men.

 

I think in cities, especially cities like San Francisco interracial couples are becoming very common. I actually don't know of any of my peers who would not date outside of their race.

[Chrome Barracuda]

I see no difference in the colour of the skin... I actually prefer black men.

 

Aww lizzie love some of the chocolate magik sitck!!! lol.

[Racquel Colette]

Well, personally I am a white professional....I am just not attracted to non-white men. That is just a personal preference and I am not racist or anything and it doesn't have anything to do with me being professional, either. I know white men (professional) who are not attracted to non-white females, also. It's the same as not being attracted to short, really tall, or whatever preferences, it just is.

Also, why are you considering professional business, law, or medical school? Because I am in none of those professions yet am a professional.

[jerbear]

I hate this BS. All the time you see very well educated Asian women, Black women, Latina women, and other women of color throwing themselves to WM. In fact, many times you see professional women of color marrying lower class WM. But men of color are limited in their options. I'm looking at graduate school, and I am getting somewhat worried about being able to meet a WW in medical/law/business school. Perhaps I need to go to Europe.

 

I usually do not have that problem with educated women being in the minority. At the graduate school level it is usually a meritocracy. It is based more on YOU and other factors.

 

Also at those levels, I have to honestly say, the social rules change somewhat. The networks, social circles, race, merit, ability, pedigree, etc.. kick in. Some marry for the trophy, some for "disobedience" to their social standings, etc..

 

A Professional white woman may not have a MS degree.

[jcster]

I was an amateur white woman for years...eventually I turned pro.

[allina]

Wait, I missed this before. OP, you're worried that you won't be able to met a white women in school? I'm confused, you're a non-white man who wants a WW? :confused:

[optimusprime]

I just wanna say "Yikes" about Lizzie's comment above here.

Also as far as the OP goes...I'm not really clear on what you're asking and are you a minority? It's all a bit confusing to me.

 

Hey compassion,

 

I'm a minority (Middle Eastern but I look Hispanic/Italian), and I am in professional school (business/law/medical/etc). The school I am at has no Middle Eastern, Hispanic, or African American women. I am limited to Asian women and white women. In terms of women, it is 85% white and 15% asian. I'm getting the sense from these career-minded WW that they are not interested in me (and I'm fit, good skin, have blue eyes, not short), even though I attracted many WW on my brief jaunts in Europe.

 

I am just looking for suggestions, insights, or statements from professional minority men or women in terms of what the dating scene is when you reach the professional level. I suspect that since white women at this age are looking for serious relationships and not flings they will be much less open to minority men than they would be in college or earlier years. In my profession, I think my work environment is going to have the same racial makeup as my graduate school. If so, then I'm not going to wait until graduation and I'm going to do a study abroad or fellowship in Europe so I can meet that special person.

 

To Racquel:

 

I appreciate your honesty. Would you say that you are less open than you were before because now you hoping for a mate rather than fun with no strings attached? I've come to realize the hard reality: despite increasing rates of interracial dating and one-night-stands, interracial marriage and long-term relationships are less likely in the U.S. Also, some white men say they wouldn't consider a non-white girl, but that is BS. Give me the most redneck, racist, and narrow-minded guy you can find and I bet you there's a girl of some ethnic background that could still seduce him (i.e. Thai, Japanese, Lebanese, Filipino, Nubian, Argentinian, etc.).

[Star Gazer]

Well, personally I am a white professional....I am just not attracted to non-white men.

 

Same here. I generally don't find myself physically attracted to non-white men.

[jerbear]

I am just looking for suggestions, insights, or statements from professional minority men or women in terms of what the dating scene is when you reach the professional level. I suspect that since white women at this age are looking for serious relationships and not flings they will be much less open to minority men than they would be in college or earlier years. In my profession, I think my work environment is going to have the same racial makeup as my graduate school. If so, then I'm not going to wait until graduation and I'm going to do a study abroad or fellowship in Europe so I can meet that special person.

 

I would suggust another possibility. When you are working in cohorts, some bias are actually corrected. The women in either another cohort or in the same cohort may actually like you after working in close quarters. Granted you are also facing stiffer competition. You're competing with "the best of the best."

[Sunblast]

Maybe your problem is that you name yourself after a transformer.

[allina]

Same here. I generally don't find myself physically attracted to non-white men.

 

I always find this so odd. I mean there are billions of sexy non-white men out there, so because they're not white they're not attractive to you? I'm not picking on you SG, you know I loves ya I'm just confused.

 

I still think that many professional white women would be open to marring a non-white man. A successful partner of a law firm I worked at was married to and had three children with a professional black man, she is white. I actually see many interracial couples in intellectual/professional communities here. I hope to marry my amazing, gorgeous East Indian bf so i am another PWW to add to the list

[Star Gazer]

I always find this so odd. I mean there are billions of sexy non-white men out there, so because they're not white they're not attractive to you? I'm not picking on you SG, you know I loves ya I'm just confused.

 

I guess it really just comes down to personal preferences in appearance. In the same way that some men prefer brunettes over blondes, or big boobs over little boobs, whatever, I tend to prefer Euro-American qualities, i.e., lighter eyes, perhaps some slight freckles with a tan, non-wiry hair, etc. In essence, the dude who LOOKS like the quintessential boy next door/quarterback.

 

That said, I wouldn't dismiss Taye Diggs or Shamar Moore outta bed...

 

Keep in mind also that you're comparing whether or not someone would marry someone outside of their race with whether or not they find someone outside of their race attractive to begin with. Very different things.

[allina]

I guess it really just comes down to personal preferences in appearance. In the same way that some men prefer brunettes over blondes, or big boobs over little boobs, whatever, I tend to prefer Euro-American qualities, i.e., lighter eyes, perhaps some slight freckles with a tan, non-wiry hair, etc. In essence, the dude who LOOKS like the quintessential boy next door/quarterback.

 

That said, I wouldn't dismiss Taye Diggs or Shamar Moore outta bed...

 

Keep in mind also that you're comparing whether or not someone would marry someone outside of their race with whether or not they find someone outside of their race attractive to begin with. Very different things.

 

Interesting, I think I'm opposite in that I'm very attracted to jet black hair and darker skin, features opposite of my light hair and skin

 

I agree they are different issues but then marriage starts with an attraction.

 

OMG Taye Diggs *drool* :love::love:

[shadowplay]

Well, I'm white but still a student. I am often attracted to non-white men. If anything I find non-white guys who are successful more intriguing since they usually overcame a lot of barriers to get where they are. The only race I'm almost never attracted to is East Asian (with the possible exception of Japanese as they have more chiselled features than Korean and Chinese). I hate to say it but East Asian men really got the short end of the stick in the sex appeal department.

 

Spanish (from Spain) is the ethnicity I'm most commonly attracted to. I also love the black hair + blue eyes combo on men.

 

*Indon't tend to find East Indian men very attractive. Middle Eastern men can be hot, though.

[Racquel Colette]

It is just a matter of personal preference. I am not saying that there are not nonwhite men who are not physically attractive, I am just not attracted to them. Plus there are enough white men out there in the dating pool that I don't have to date nonwhite men. Also, and again, don't flame me, I don't want to have biracial children and put them through that (and sorry but lots of the biracial people in the Gap ads and such...they are saying they are the new "beauty" but most of them are not attractive at all, society is just trying to force this down our throats.)

Also OP, why do you have to have a woman in business, medical or law fields? I worked in copywriting for a while, this was a professional position. Now I am a teacher, that is definitely in the professional realm. So maybe you yourself are narrowing your standards.

If you want to claim that I am narrow-minded and red-neck, go ahead, but you are the one who started off the thread insisting on a white woman.

[shadowplay]

It is just a matter of personal preference. I am not saying that there are not nonwhite men who are not physically attractive, I am just not attracted to them. Plus there are enough white men out there in the dating pool that I don't have to date nonwhite men. Also, and again, don't flame me, I don't want to have biracial children and put them through that (and sorry but lots of the biracial people in the Gap ads and such...they are saying they are the new "beauty" but most of them are not attractive at all, society is just trying to force this down our throats.)

 

Wow.

[Chrome Barracuda]

It is just a matter of personal preference. I am not saying that there are not nonwhite men who are not physically attractive, I am just not attracted to them. Plus there are enough white men out there in the dating pool that I don't have to date nonwhite men. Also, and again, don't flame me, I don't want to have biracial children and put them through that (and sorry but lots of the biracial people in the Gap ads and such...they are saying they are the new "beauty" but most of them are not attractive at all, society is just trying to force this down our throats.)

 

Wow.

 

Wow RC.

 

That's messed up.

 

I'm a black guy, and I date black women yes but I find myself greatly attracted to white women if I meet one and we have children their gonna be people nonetheless.

 

I can understand the need to have them in your own self image but that is just borderline prejudice? dont you think?

 

What happens if you meet a black guy and he's attractive and he makes you wet, treats you good, lays good pipe and loves you? Are you really gonna not have kids because he's black?

 

C'mon I think if we could accept gays, (Meaning they still gotta come a long way before everyone can accept people of that orientation.) I think we can accept bi-racial children.

 

They're still children I dont see a problem.

[allina]

I don't want to have biracial children and put them through that (and sorry but lots of the biracial people in the Gap ads and such...they are saying they are the new "beauty" but most of them are not attractive at all, society is just trying to force this down our throats.)

 

Wow.

 

Yeah, she has the right to her opinion but that made want to vomit just a tad. This adds "living in an area where such a mindset is almost non existent" to my list of things to be thankful for

[CD111]

Wow, RC. I would have to disagree about the bi-racial children and emphasize that racial and ethnic mixing has made humans what we are today. Throughout human history wars and conflict have brought men from one ethnicity or racial group into another and in many of those situations those men have stayed in the new land and broadening the gene pool. I won't even mention what British colonization did and how many women of a wide range of ethnicities had children with white men. So, in all reality I am sure you (RC) and go through your family history and in many cases find that you are not from just one ethnic group. You may say ethnic group isn't the same as race, but it really is. Every ethnic group has it's own set of mannerisms, slightly distinct physical features and traditions, so to say ethnic mixing is appropriate (ex. a Swede marrying an Italian) and racial mixing isn't is pretty hypocritical. Since race is pretty much like ethnicity, with a few more differences. Personally, I think children of multiracial couples are really beautiful and unique. Some countries like Brazil, are very multiracial.

[sb129]

Well, I have dated mostly white men, but there are some men of ethnicities different to mine that are HOT.

 

The guy who plays Mohinder Suresh on Heroes is geee---orgeous.

 

I would MUCH rather date an educated black guy than a redneck white dumbass.

 

Yeah, she has the right to her opinion but that made want to vomit just a tad. This adds "living in an area where such a mindset is almost non existent" to my list of things to be thankful for

 

Me too Allina, me too. The house I live in is multiracial and multicultural, its great.

 

Some of the most beautiful people I have ever met are mixed race.

[Racquel Colette]

I don't date white redneck dumb asses.

I don't want to date black guys. I am not attracted, so sue me. It is no different than the OP who wants to date WW. It's a matter of personal preference. It's the same as men who like women with big breasts, small breasts, short, tall. Well, I like white men to date.

Also, it is going to be a tougher life for a biracial kid, why would I create one and put them through that?

I have a male friend who has a drop dead gorgeous female friend who is of Indian descent. I have met her, she really is drop dead gorgeous, and an engineer. While he acknowledges she is beautiful physically, he is not attracted to her in that way. (she has wanted to date him in the past and he had to be honest with her, but they are still very good friends.) He also just prefers white women for dating. she totally understands that (even though she dates a white guy.) So I fail to see how this is racist. It's all chemistry and personal preference.