Author JeanQueen Posted November 3, 2007 Author Posted November 3, 2007 Holy ****, he already texted back. You guys are too good. Especially you Timberlane.
Timberlane Posted November 3, 2007 Posted November 3, 2007 Muahahahaha! ~That'd be the evil laugh. [Mr. Burns] Eeeeeexcellent. [/Mr. Burns] edit: He texted back? Shweeeeet. No go get 'im.
Author JeanQueen Posted November 3, 2007 Author Posted November 3, 2007 OK, he wants to hang out tonight. I guess I'm really doing this!
Timberlane Posted November 3, 2007 Posted November 3, 2007 OK, he wants to hang out tonight. I guess I'm really doing this! He does. When you get to his place, which is where I would suggest you agree to meet, give him a long look in the eyes and kiss him very warmly. Then softly say, "Hey there."
Author JeanQueen Posted November 3, 2007 Author Posted November 3, 2007 Long look Kiss Hey there OK Got it!
Timberlane Posted November 3, 2007 Posted November 3, 2007 Long look Kiss Hey there OK Got it! I think you'll be feeling like doing that anyway. At the very least, just lean your head into his chest when you greet him. Mmmmmm. That's very nice, too. Then look up into his eyes and you'll be smiling. So are you headed over there tonight? Hope so.
The Joker Posted November 3, 2007 Posted November 3, 2007 Holy ****, he already texted back. There is no mincing those kind of words
Author JeanQueen Posted November 3, 2007 Author Posted November 3, 2007 Yup, I'm stopping at the club to talk to a few friends and then were meeting up later. How tawdry this all sounds But, I never have any fun like this. I deserve it darn it!
Road Rage Posted November 3, 2007 Posted November 3, 2007 Talk about groveling. And women today wonder why they are so unhappy.
Timberlane Posted November 3, 2007 Posted November 3, 2007 Yup, I'm stopping at the club to talk to a few friends and then were meeting up later. How tawdry this all sounds But, I never have any fun like this. I deserve it darn it! It's not tawdry, Jean, just nice fun. And you do deserve it. Do have a very, very nice time and make things long, drawn out, and thoroughly wonderful. Then sleep soundly and wake up with a big grin on your face.
Timberlane Posted November 3, 2007 Posted November 3, 2007 Talk about groveling. And women today wonder why they are so unhappy. No groveling. She is merely agreeing to something that the guy already wanted. It's called closing the deal. The ABCs of deal making, Always Be Closing. You sound like the unhappy one. Sheeeeit, bro. Get with it and go hit the bars.
Author JeanQueen Posted November 3, 2007 Author Posted November 3, 2007 Anyhow, I've gotta go shave my legs. Teehee
Timberlane Posted November 3, 2007 Posted November 3, 2007 Anyhow, I've gotta go shave my legs. Teehee I'll bet you have some nice ones under that overcoat in your picture. Mmmm mmmm. Oh yeah, bring over a bottle of wine or something just in case he spazs out on that. And bring a candle, too. Wine and candles. Soooo nice.
uniqueone Posted November 3, 2007 Posted November 3, 2007 On the way there he mentioned that he wasn't really interested in a relationship because he was going to be moving to England for a while in a few months and didn't want to get close to someone before he went. I said that was too bad and I wished I would have know that earlier. He said he'd like to just keep hanging out and "see where it goes". Pay careful attention to the part I bolded. And then, no matter what else he says or does, refer back to this bolded part again. Anyway, we got to the bar and hung out with his friends, but I was so tired by this time and had a few drinks, so I wasn't my usualy excited self. Also, I was a little sad about this whole England thing. So, on the way home I think he could tell I wasn't very happy, but he again invited me to come over and sober up before I drove home and offered to rub my feet since they we killing me from my crazy heels. This (the bolded part) is your TRUE feeling about the situation. This is where I told him that on top of the fact that I was super tired I didn't think it was such a good idea that we keep carrying on if he wasn't interested in a relationship or I would start to get emotionally attached (I was a little tipsy and tired, after later evaluation I would probably be ok with just having a little fun until he leaves). He again suggested we just try and see where things go and that we didn't have to do anything that night, just hang out. This is where a little dance comes in. You know that getting into a relationship with this guy is bad news and that you're going to get hurt. But then he convinces you to just see where things go with it. Ok, your belief was that a relationship with him was bad news but now he's convincing you to try it anyway and you have to resolve this conflict. The way you resolve this conflict is to tell yourself "I was a little tipsey and tired, after later evaluation I would probably be ok with just having a little fun until he leaves." THIS is the part that leads to trouble. It's the part where we convince ourselves to ignore the red flags and where we convince ourselves that we can just handle having some "fun" with no strings. There are many a' crying, heart-broken, women who've done this. He said he got the impression that I didn't like him very much anymore. I told him that was obviously not true and that I was just tired. He said "OK, I guess I got the wrong idea. Are we still on for tomorrow night?" I said sure and assumed he would call me the next day. Well, he didn't and it's now the day after that. He's the smooth one, alright. He's got you wondering and almost chasing HIM! Quite the talker. I don't want him to think I've written him off, cuz he was really cute...I wouldn't mind just getting together with him every now and then until he goes, hehe How would I get that across to him? This guy's a charmer.....he's even got you doing all the work too. I'd avoid him like the plague. You're going to get hurt. I have a feeling you won't listen to this but hey, at least I said it.
uniqueone Posted November 3, 2007 Posted November 3, 2007 It's not tawdry, Jean, just nice fun. And you do deserve it. Do have a very, very nice time and make things long, drawn out, and thoroughly wonderful. Then sleep soundly and wake up with a big grin on your face. Women don't work like that. That big grin is going to change into tears later on. But the guy doesn't see that part of the story ...... because he's already gone.
Timberlane Posted November 3, 2007 Posted November 3, 2007 Women don't work like that. That big grin is going to change into tears later on. But the guy doesn't see that part of the story ...... because he's already gone. Maybe yes, maybe no. They are in college, so it's a little different. I don't know if it will turn out well or not. None of us really knows. But back in school, I usually ended up being the one that wanted more and that didn't always work out. I don't think it's necessarily a guy vs. girl thing. Besides, I doubt the guy is moving to England permanently, so who knows what the future holds? I'd rather give both of them the benefit of the doubt rather than not.
uniqueone Posted November 3, 2007 Posted November 3, 2007 Maybe yes, maybe no. They are in college, so it's a little different. I don't know if it will turn out well or not. None of us really knows. But back in school, I usually ended up being the one that wanted more and that didn't always work out. I don't think it's necessarily a guy vs. girl thing. Besides, I doubt the guy is moving to England permanently, so who knows what the future holds? I'd rather give both of them the benefit of the doubt rather than not. I haven't known any women to be happy with no strings sex. In fact, I'd go so far as to give this advice to men: No matter what a woman says, don't think she's really ok with no-strings sex. Just my opinion.
Timberlane Posted November 3, 2007 Posted November 3, 2007 I haven't known any women to be happy with no strings sex. In fact, I'd go so far as to give this advice to men: No matter what a woman says, don't think she's really ok with no-strings sex. Just my opinion. Well that's fine, since there really is no such thing as "no strings sex." There will always be strings, no matter what either party agrees to.
spookie Posted November 3, 2007 Posted November 3, 2007 Pay careful attention to the part I bolded. And then, no matter what else he says or does, refer back to this bolded part again. This (the bolded part) is your TRUE feeling about the situation. This is where a little dance comes in. You know that getting into a relationship with this guy is bad news and that you're going to get hurt. But then he convinces you to just see where things go with it. Ok, your belief was that a relationship with him was bad news but now he's convincing you to try it anyway and you have to resolve this conflict. The way you resolve this conflict is to tell yourself "I was a little tipsey and tired, after later evaluation I would probably be ok with just having a little fun until he leaves." THIS is the part that leads to trouble. It's the part where we convince ourselves to ignore the red flags and where we convince ourselves that we can just handle having some "fun" with no strings. There are many a' crying, heart-broken, women who've done this. He's the smooth one, alright. He's got you wondering and almost chasing HIM! Quite the talker. This guy's a charmer.....he's even got you doing all the work too. I'd avoid him like the plague. You're going to get hurt. I have a feeling you won't listen to this but hey, at least I said it. I gotta say I'm with uniqueone on this one. Reading through the whoel thread, it sounds like you start off wanting one thing and then, when he can't deliver, giving in to whatever he wants just to keep him around. Situations like that rarely work out well for the person doing all the compromising (and in this case most of the chasing). Be careful jq. Be very careful. Ask yourself this. How will you feel if after you have sex he doesn't call you for a couple of days and you find out he's seeing other people?
birdie Posted November 3, 2007 Posted November 3, 2007 I'm with unique and spookie. this guy is really good, he told the OP he wasn't interested in a relationship (is he really off to England?) and SHE ended up grovelling for sex. amazing. the guy is good, have to give him that
compassion42 Posted November 3, 2007 Posted November 3, 2007 JeanQueen....How did it go? Any regrets?
The Joker Posted November 3, 2007 Posted November 3, 2007 Women don't work like that. That big grin is going to change into tears later on. But the guy doesn't see that part of the story ...... because he's already gone. So you are able to speak for all women on this matter? Sounds to me as she was all about just going out and having some fun and not over analyzing every minute little detail. If she did get taken to the boneyard at the end of the night, she was just as willing a participant. Don't blame the guy, he was clear on his intentions of not wanting a relationship and moving to England, she had every opportunity to drop it as of right now. So instead of projecting your own misery in relations onto this womans sex life, why not back her play and be happy for her?
uniqueone Posted November 3, 2007 Posted November 3, 2007 So you are able to speak for all women on this matter? The only women that I've ever known that appeared to be ok with this type of sex were really ****** up ones. They usually had some type of an abusive past. Even so, they'd usually counteract the feelings of despair afterwards with drugs or alcohol. So you're right, I need to correct my statement. Healthy women don't work this way. Sounds to me as she was all about just going out and having some fun and not over analyzing every minute little detail. If she did get taken to the boneyard at the end of the night, "taken to the boneyard".....wow.....well at least I know what attitude I'm dealing with here..... she was just as willing a participant. I don't think anyone here said that she was going out with him against her will. Don't blame the guy, he was clear on his intentions of not wanting a relationship and moving to England, she had every opportunity to drop it as of right now. Exactly. And that's what we're trying to convince her to do. So instead of projecting your own misery in relations onto this womans sex life, why not back her play and be happy for her? Because it's not a "play" and this isn't a football game. And I'm not going to be happy for someone who's going to end up getting hurt.
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