peace_pipe Posted October 9, 2007 Posted October 9, 2007 Okay, first off, let me say that I am really excited about this awesome girl I have been seeing! I've dated A LOT of women in the past few years. Looking back on it all I can see that the main reason it never worked out with most of these girls was their baggage. Ex boyfriends, husbands or other random baggage always seemed to drive a wedge between me and the girl.. I am REALLY turned off by girl drama. Coming to this understanding is partly why I am so excited about this girl I have been dating. She is totally over her ex and is totally ready to move forward with her life!!! She has a career, is independent, intelligent and beautiful! Another good thing - We are only seeing each other, although we are not "exclusive". I never really believed in dating multiple people simultaneously and she agrees. What this means is that her and I can get to know one another, naturally, WITHOUT the threat of baggage ruining the mood or the process. It's still early for us, but I feel like this is the best start I have had with a girl in a long time!! Ladies - If you want to know what a man wants, read the above post again. This is it. So far..
birdie Posted October 9, 2007 Posted October 9, 2007 everybody has baggage, maybe you've just found someone who is a bit more mature than the rest and she knows how to deal with stuff. well done, that's really rare. hopefully you can live up to her expectations as well
Author peace_pipe Posted October 9, 2007 Author Posted October 9, 2007 everybody has baggage, maybe you've just found someone who is a bit more mature than the rest and she knows how to deal with stuff. Well said. Yes, everyone does have baggage but so many people (especially women) let it affect their current situation in a negative way! I see lack of baggage as another sign of strong character. To me, no ex husbands or children out of wedlock shows just how strong of a moral character that she has. I expect to get flamed for that last comment (by the ladies). Look at it this way: if you are too immature to protect yourself from unwanted pregnancy, then you should not be having sex. PERIOD. I don't want this thread to go in that direction though...
jcster Posted October 9, 2007 Posted October 9, 2007 ...so divorced women are lacking in moral character? ooookay then. ...And as for the whole "don't have sex if you don't want to get pregnant" line - can you list ANY birth control method other than absolute virginity (minus ANY heavy petting) that is 100% effective. It sounds to me like you want a woman that's been living in a terrarium... I suggest you get off your high horse before you get thrown...
Woggle Posted October 9, 2007 Posted October 9, 2007 Nobody ever said that divorced women are lacking in moral character but if I were still single I would look at it as a red flag. Of course it would have to depend on the reason for the divorce because if she caused it who is to say she would not repeat the same pattern with me. I would never date a single mother because if she views her child's father as disposable how will she view me if we have children?
Author peace_pipe Posted October 9, 2007 Author Posted October 9, 2007 ...so divorced women are lacking in moral character? ooookay then. Not necessarily, but it gives me damn good reason to investigate why. And quite often - I find out that I don't like WHY. ...And as for the whole "don't have sex if you don't want to get pregnant" line - can you list ANY birth control method other than absolute virginity (minus ANY heavy petting) that is 100% effective. It's called using a condom. Last time I checked it was 99% effective. I've had sex hundreds of times and guess what? I have had no unwanted pregnancy situations. Why? Because I take this as a serious matter and ALWAYS act responsible in this area. Maybe more could learn to do the same. It sounds to me like you want a woman that's been living in a terrarium... I suggest you get off your high horse before you get thrown Nope, just wanted to meet one that has strong convictions about what matters most. From what I have seen, they are about as rare as finding one that actually does live in a terrarium.
Trialbyfire Posted October 9, 2007 Posted October 9, 2007 Congrats to you peace pipe. Glad to hear you've found the woman for your pedestal. Btw, you do realize you're full of drama, thus do need someone to offset it.
Author peace_pipe Posted October 9, 2007 Author Posted October 9, 2007 Congrats to you peace pipe. Glad to hear you've found the woman for your pedestal. Btw, you do realize you're full of drama, thus do need someone to offset it. Lol, please tell me what drama I have. You can not name one accurate example. The only drama I have ever have are dating the immature girls in their 20's. And as soon as the drama arrives, I quickly remove it from my life. So now let's hear you back up those comments. I am not putting her on a pedastal either. Simply venting happiness that "normal" women do exist.
Trialbyfire Posted October 9, 2007 Posted October 9, 2007 Lol, please tell me what drama I have. You can not name one accurate example. The only drama I have ever have are dating the immature girls in their 20's. And as soon as the drama arrives, I quickly remove it from my life. So now let's hear you back up those comments. I am not putting her on a pedastal either. Simply venting happiness that "normal" women do exist. No worries, you'll push her off her pedestal soon... Click on your screen name in one of your posts/view profile/threads started by peace_pipe and voilà, drama central.
Author peace_pipe Posted October 9, 2007 Author Posted October 9, 2007 Click on your screen name in one of your posts/view profile/threads started by peace_pipe and voilà, drama central. And where did the drama originate? All from women's baggage. Did you have a point? I must have missed it....
Author peace_pipe Posted October 9, 2007 Author Posted October 9, 2007 No worries, you'll push her off her pedestal soon... Is there a reason you are posting here? Do you have something constructive to add or did you just come here to project all of your female - man frustrations out on me??
jcster Posted October 9, 2007 Posted October 9, 2007 Do you have something constructive to add or did you just come here to project all of your female - man frustrations out on me?? Did you have a reason for your post? I mean, other than insulting a massive subset of the female population? PS...with a condom being 99% effective, then you got off lucky not knocking anyone up - it only takes once! How fortunate for you that you can escape the moral stain of bearing a child out of wedlock - you can just impregnate someone and leave all nice and squeaky clean. I've got a tremendous urge to ask you where you get the unmitigated gall to make these type of value judgements when you have absolutely no idea what you are talking about. But then, I realized that if you are posting this idiocy, there's no chance in hell of you understanding what I'm talking about. So, congratulations on your new love, and I hope for her sake that she's without flaw.
Woggle Posted October 9, 2007 Posted October 9, 2007 Did you have a reason for your post? I mean, other than insulting a massive subset of the female population? PS...with a condom being 99% effective, then you got off lucky not knocking anyone up - it only takes once! How fortunate for you that you can escape the moral stain of bearing a child out of wedlock - you can just impregnate someone and leave all nice and squeaky clean. I've got a tremendous urge to ask you where you get the unmitigated gall to make these type of value judgements when you have absolutely no idea what you are talking about. But then, I realized that if you are posting this idiocy, there's no chance in hell of you understanding what I'm talking about. So, congratulations on your new love, and I hope for her sake that she's without flaw. Somebody is mad. Nothing wrong with a man having syandards and it sounds like peace pipe has his. I don't believe in preaching to people but I do believe in man being selective about who we involve ourselves with.
Ruby Posted October 9, 2007 Posted October 9, 2007 What is the point of this post? What is 'normal'????????? Are you hitting on the crack pipe again PP???????????? lolololol
Lishy Posted October 9, 2007 Posted October 9, 2007 Good for you PP! Lol is it me or are you being extremely naive? Let the drama begin lol
Cobra_X30 Posted October 9, 2007 Posted October 9, 2007 Lol, please tell me what drama I have. You can not name one accurate example. The only drama I have ever have are dating the immature girls in their 20's. And as soon as the drama arrives, I quickly remove it from my life. So now let's hear you back up those comments. I am not putting her on a pedastal either. Simply venting happiness that "normal" women do exist. PP, your a drama queen and you know it! Your always startin some crap! That said... Yes I cant stand chicks with a busload of baggage! I'm glad you found one that doesnt have any big issues! Now dont blow it!
Krytie TV Posted October 9, 2007 Posted October 9, 2007 Okay, first off, let me say that I am really excited about this awesome girl I have been seeing! So she has you snowed does she? Good for her. Let me know, when you find it, where she was hiding her baggage mmkay?
Krytie TV Posted October 9, 2007 Posted October 9, 2007 Don't listen to the man-haters PP. They're just jealous and bitter. You go with your perfect woman
jcster Posted October 9, 2007 Posted October 9, 2007 Don't listen to the man-haters PP. They're just jealous and bitter. You go with your perfect woman Just make sure she keeps taking her Prozac.
Woggle Posted October 9, 2007 Posted October 9, 2007 Don't listen to the man-haters PP. They're just jealous and bitter. You go with your perfect woman Nobody said anything about normal but halfway decent and not a mess is a good choice. The fact that some women think a woman needs prozac to be normal says a lot.
jophil28 Posted October 9, 2007 Posted October 9, 2007 Okay, first off, let me say that I am really excited about this awesome girl I have been seeing! I've dated A LOT of women in the past few years. Looking back on it all I can see that the main reason it never worked out with most of these girls was their baggage. Ex boyfriends, husbands or other random baggage always seemed to drive a wedge between me and the girl.. I am REALLY turned off by girl drama. Coming to this understanding is partly why I am so excited about this girl I have been dating. She is totally over her ex and is totally ready to move forward with her life!!! She has a career, is independent, intelligent and beautiful! Another good thing - We are only seeing each other, although we are not "exclusive". I never really believed in dating multiple people simultaneously and she agrees. What this means is that her and I can get to know one another, naturally, WITHOUT the threat of baggage ruining the mood or the process. It's still early for us, but I feel like this is the best start I have had with a girl in a long time!! Ladies - If you want to know what a man wants, read the above post again. This is it. So far.. Hey PP, sounds like you bagged yourself a keeper. I agree that most women with a 'history' are not good candidates for an LTR because they rarely extract the wisdom from their previous disaster. Instead "It was all HIS fault." Emotional growth seems to be something that 30 somethings avoid at all costs . You also need to continue to 'qualify ' her as you progress further into the relationship. There is no PERFECT woman but if you are clear about your core expectations then you can CONSCIOUSLY decide if she gets the wining ticket.
Trialbyfire Posted October 9, 2007 Posted October 9, 2007 Just make sure she keeps taking her Prozac. Girl on prozac, man on crack. Perfect.
jcster Posted October 10, 2007 Posted October 10, 2007 I agree that most women with a 'history' are not good candidates for an LTR because they rarely extract the wisdom from their previous disaster. Instead "It was all HIS fault." Emotional growth seems to be something that 30 somethings avoid at all costs . You also need to continue to 'qualify ' her as you progress further into the relationship. There is no PERFECT woman but if you are clear about your core expectations then you can CONSCIOUSLY decide if she gets the wining ticket. Dear god...I hope this is sarcasm. Peace pipe and all other posters who agree with him....I truly pray that life continues to treat you kindly. I hope that you never have to make any of the truly tough decisions in life, the kind that have NO good answer, just the lesser of two evils. May you continue to have the uncanny foresight to avoid all pain and damage. May you never be cheated on, accidentally pregnant, or stuck in a loveless and unfulfilling marriage. I hope that life continues to be simple for you, and all humans remain black and white cartoons for your ease of understanding. And...most importantly...i truly hope you will never be held up to the candle of your own judgements.
Woggle Posted October 10, 2007 Posted October 10, 2007 We are just trying to better the odds of a relationship not blowing up in our faces.
Lishy Posted October 10, 2007 Posted October 10, 2007 We are just trying to better the odds of a relationship not blowing up in our faces. You will better the odds even more if you stay single! I am surprised you are not single Wog!
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