Timberlane Posted October 4, 2007 Posted October 4, 2007 Was it hairy and raised? You could have lopped the back one off with a pair of nail clippers one night. Non-elective surgery.
Star Gazer Posted October 4, 2007 Posted October 4, 2007 Was it hairy and raised? Yes. It was soooooo....WRONG.
underpants Posted October 4, 2007 Posted October 4, 2007 Yes. It was soooooo....WRONG. I am trying to think of a movie suggestion for you. I can't remember the title. However, there is a mole, true love and a wedding.
underpants Posted October 4, 2007 Posted October 4, 2007 I found it. Walking and Talking. ...according to the review. "for everyone who wants to get married and stay single at the same time". I would agree. Worth the rental. You will probably have your own laugh fit about the mole incidents.
sb129 Posted October 4, 2007 Posted October 4, 2007 His teeth are so bad it is probably beyond Invisalign type of help. But that is an excellent idea!!! For you people who think it's one or two "endearing" teeth which are imperfect, it's WAY worse than that. his two front teeth are totally sideways, as in the sides are pointing to the front. And the other ones are very crooked, too. It looks horrible, there is no way that it could be endearing or sexy to anyone. I am glad when I had a huge gap between my two front teeth when I was young, my mom took me to an orthodontist. Thank you, Mom. You're awesome. I love having a great smile and not being self-conscious. Maybe you could post a photo and I could tell you if he would be suitable for Invisalign, seeing as you are so keen to humiliate the poor guy. It can fix alot, but fixed metal braces are better for more serious problems. However, have you actually considered that maybe he doesn't want to get them fixed? It hasn't hindered his career at all. People with AWFUL teeth get laid too, I can vouch for that, I see all sorts of people with disgusting mouths every day, and many of them have partners and kids, so they are having sex, i can assure you. Maybe he has a phobia of the dentist? Whats it to you anyway? You aren't dating him, nor do you want to, so why is it any of your business?
Author Blackberry Posted October 5, 2007 Author Posted October 5, 2007 Ha ha ha. Well, I do agree about the bad teeth thing, though. Get those choppers fixed girls and guys. It's a major turn off to see bad ones. It's all about projecting an image of health and fecundity. I was just pointing out that he's successful but not super successful. It has nothing to do with how I base friendship. Just saying, there's no reason he should be a 36-year-old virgin, except for the teeth.
Author Blackberry Posted October 5, 2007 Author Posted October 5, 2007 Maybe you could post a photo and I could tell you if he would be suitable for Invisalign, seeing as you are so keen to humiliate the poor guy. It can fix alot, but fixed metal braces are better for more serious problems. However, have you actually considered that maybe he doesn't want to get them fixed? It hasn't hindered his career at all. People with AWFUL teeth get laid too, I can vouch for that, I see all sorts of people with disgusting mouths every day, and many of them have partners and kids, so they are having sex, i can assure you. Maybe he has a phobia of the dentist? Whats it to you anyway? You aren't dating him, nor do you want to, so why is it any of your business? I am not keen on humiliating him. That is why I asked if a good friend should be told of something in a nice way. Sorry that your basic reading comprehension skills are failing you.
Trialbyfire Posted October 5, 2007 Posted October 5, 2007 I was just pointing out that he's successful but not super successful. It has nothing to do with how I base friendship. Just saying, there's no reason he should be a 36-year-old virgin, except for the teeth. Bad teeth wouldn't be the main reason why he's a virgin. You're in a friendship with him, not in a romantic relationship. People can be very different in both. He maybe incredibly shy/not confident or a jerk around women who he has an interest in/is dating.
Author Blackberry Posted October 5, 2007 Author Posted October 5, 2007 That is true, trialbyfire. Just trying to help a guy out. I would actually appreciate being told something like that.
Trialbyfire Posted October 5, 2007 Posted October 5, 2007 Not me. If I had broccoli trapped in my teeth or lipstick on it, yes, I would appreciate it. Anything obvious like that, I would know, since I look in the mirror every morning. As I mentioned in another thread, I have a beauty mark on one of my toes. I know it's there, I don't need it pointed out. If someone points it out, I would just scrunch up my eyebrows, give them the look and say "So?".
love4ever Posted October 5, 2007 Posted October 5, 2007 His teeth are so bad it is probably beyond Invisalign type of help. But that is an excellent idea!!! For you people who think it's one or two "endearing" teeth which are imperfect, it's WAY worse than that. his two front teeth are totally sideways, as in the sides are pointing to the front. And the other ones are very crooked, too. It looks horrible, there is no way that it could be endearing or sexy to anyone. I am glad when I had a huge gap between my two front teeth when I was young, my mom took me to an orthodontist. Thank you, Mom. You're awesome. I love having a great smile and not being self-conscious. I have a gap and have never been self-conscious about except for the occasionally a**hole that ones to point out something on my own body . I'll never get it closed even when I can afford because its a part of me. I might get the gap size reduced if I can but I have nothing to hide *gap*
fray718 Posted October 5, 2007 Posted October 5, 2007 I have crooked teeth. I think it adds character =).
whichwayisup Posted October 5, 2007 Posted October 5, 2007 sb129, where were you when I was going through my dentist issues in the summer?? I could have used your wisdom! Blackberry, just be honest and ask if he's ever considered getting braces as an adult. I know of two people who've had braces put on as adults. Bring up it in a casual conversation. Like, I saw a show on TV or I read recently about more adults these days getting braces...Have you ever considered doing that? (Oh okay, yeah that sounds bad too...lol. I guess it depends on your dynamtic with him and if he is a sensitive type of guy or not. Some guys will just let it roll on by and others will be bothered..
Author Blackberry Posted October 5, 2007 Author Posted October 5, 2007 I have a gap and have never been self-conscious about except for the occasionally a**hole that ones to point out something on my own body . I'll never get it closed even when I can afford because its a part of me. I might get the gap size reduced if I can but I have nothing to hide *gap* My gap was really quite wide and unattractive. It wasn't a small gap. Plus if you really were comfortable with it, you wouldn't even CONSIDER getting the gap size REDUCED. There is nothing wrong with wanting to improve your appearance, just don't be a hypocrite about it. Every time you put on makeup or go to the gym, or go shopping for clothes that flatter your body, you are making an improvement on your appearance so don't give me the "I'm beautiful as I am" bs.
Trialbyfire Posted October 5, 2007 Posted October 5, 2007 "I'm beautiful as I am" But...but...I am...
underpants Posted October 5, 2007 Posted October 5, 2007 My gap was really quite wide and unattractive. It wasn't a small gap. Plus if you really were comfortable with it, you wouldn't even CONSIDER getting the gap size REDUCED. There is nothing wrong with wanting to improve your appearance, just don't be a hypocrite about it. Every time you put on makeup or go to the gym, or go shopping for clothes that flatter your body, you are making an improvement on your appearance so don't give me the "I'm beautiful as I am" bs. So are you saying this guy's perceived problem is a gap? Or is is overlapping issues? I know someone who fixed their gap and it really bothered me (and several other people) we miss the gap. It was what made her...her. Loren Hutton nice she was. Now I know...because we share the same dentist that he is all veneers (he confided). He does not like my fangs. Personally I like them. He would like to see them pulled and things happen. I don't relish that idea. Unders....straight on the top...crazy crooked on the bottom. ...oh I mean:)
Cobra_X30 Posted October 5, 2007 Posted October 5, 2007 My gap was really quite wide and unattractive. It wasn't a small gap. Plus if you really were comfortable with it, you wouldn't even CONSIDER getting the gap size REDUCED. There is nothing wrong with wanting to improve your appearance, just don't be a hypocrite about it. Every time you put on makeup or go to the gym, or go shopping for clothes that flatter your body, you are making an improvement on your appearance so don't give me the "I'm beautiful as I am" bs. My motto is 'Look Good, Feel Good'! Sounds kind of shallow and concieted but its true for nearly everyone. I lost most of my two front teeth in a motorcycle accident years ago, and I had some cheap restorative work done. Most people couldnt tell, but it really irritated me. So I went and got veneers. I love them.
sb129 Posted October 5, 2007 Posted October 5, 2007 I am not keen on humiliating him. That is why I asked if a good friend should be told of something in a nice way. Sorry that your basic reading comprehension skills are failing you. :rolleyes::rolleyes: Straight back atcha, sweetie. Did you miss the bit about people who have bad teeth get laid too?? You assume too much about your friend, which is mis-comprehension at its finest. That is true, trialbyfire. Just trying to help a guy out. I would actually appreciate being told something like that. Do you honestly think that after 36 years, he has NO idea that his teeth are like that? Surely someone somewhere has brought it up before, or he has seen a magazine/ movie etc etc where people have perfect teeth, and realised that his are different to the ideal. He doesn't sound stupid. There are hundreds of adverts for cosmetic dentistry throughout the media these days, the guy must have seen them. All adult teeth are erupted and in their position by the time someone is 13, and teenagers can be very direct when commenting on eachothers appearance. Teenagers also make up the bulk of orthodontic patients, so your friend would have seen alot of them when he was growing up. If you really want to help him, why don't YOU sleep with him?? Not me. If I had broccoli trapped in my teeth or lipstick on it, yes, I would appreciate it. Anything obvious like that, I would know, since I look in the mirror every morning. As I mentioned in another thread, I have a beauty mark on one of my toes. I know it's there, I don't need it pointed out. If someone points it out, I would just scrunch up my eyebrows, give them the look and say "So?". My motto is 'Look Good, Feel Good'! Sounds kind of shallow and concieted but its true for nearly everyone. I lost most of my two front teeth in a motorcycle accident years ago, and I had some cheap restorative work done. Most people couldnt tell, but it really irritated me. So I went and got veneers. I love them. This is when veneers are entirely appropriate- and the difference here is that Cobra went because HE wanted to. One thing that really annoys me sometimes is when people go through expensive of complicated dental treatment because they "think they should", not because they really want to. It throws shadows over the "informed consent" part of the treatment, and also makes it difficult to get a good end result that you are both happy with. Some people place different emphasis on the appearance of different parts of their bodies. I have very short (not chewed, mind) fingernails- some women wouldn't be seen dead with nails like mine, and wear fake ones. I have to, because its practical for work, and its not really something I put importance on. I would never leave the house without blowdrying my hair though. Its all about the way we perceive things, and it is in the "eye of the beholder".......
Author Blackberry Posted October 5, 2007 Author Posted October 5, 2007 So are you saying this guy's perceived problem is a gap? Or is is overlapping issues? I know someone who fixed their gap and it really bothered me (and several other people) we miss the gap. It was what made her...her. Loren Hutton nice she was. Now I know...because we share the same dentist that he is all veneers (he confided). He does not like my fangs. Personally I like them. He would like to see them pulled and things happen. I don't relish that idea. Unders....straight on the top...crazy crooked on the bottom. ...oh I mean:) Well, you did not personally see what I looked like and how big the gap was. Your friend must have felt self-conscious about it, so she fixed her gap and now she feels better about how she looks. What others think, she is not "herself", well...whatev, you're not her. Plus with really crooked teeth as you describe, you are also looking at dental issues which can be painful in the future. Plus, I'm sorry but...crazy crooked teeth just don't look attractive whatsoever.
underpants Posted October 6, 2007 Posted October 6, 2007 Well, you did not personally see what I looked like and how big the gap was. Your friend must have felt self-conscious about it, so she fixed her gap and now she feels better about how she looks. What others think, she is not "herself", well...whatev, you're not her. Plus with really crooked teeth as you describe, you are also looking at dental issues which can be painful in the future. Plus, I'm sorry but...crazy crooked teeth just don't look attractive whatsoever. I agree. She is happier about HER decision to reduce her gap. It looks good and if it makes her feel better then cool. I just see her for her. I liked her pre and post gapage. I have some overlapping on my bottom front teeth. The top is straight. I could get braces if I wanted to and it is a option I may consider in the future. I don't relish the idea of pulling all of my incisors out in the name of vanity. My teeth are healthy and although I have perceived (by some) slight imperfections it has not stopped me from having relationships. It is an issue for you, and perhaps a characteristic you seek in dating. However, if this is just a friend then as someone else said. What is it to you? Would you deem him dateable if he had a more perfect smile?
HokeyReligions Posted October 6, 2007 Posted October 6, 2007 I think its ridiculous. Who are you to decide what others should look like, or what their personal priorities should be? My teeth are not movie-star perfect. But they are clean and healthy and if anyone even suggested to me that they would find me more attractive if I wore braces or veneers I would tell them "Thank You Soooo Much! Now I can scratch you off my Christmas Card list - I prefer genuine people who genuinely like me. Toodles!" and go merily on my way. Maybe he thinks you are too short, or too tall, or your boobs could stand to be increased a cup size and then you'd be oh so pretty and date-worthy if only you got a boob job. Can you imagine the posts from the folks here if some guy posted about this one girl that he likes but she is so totally flat-chested and she could afford a boob job and would look so much better in her clothes, and get dates, etc. how do I tell her that she needs new boobs?
sb129 Posted October 7, 2007 Posted October 7, 2007 Great post Hokey, I can only imagine the flaming that would go on if a guy was brave enough to start a thread like that. Plus with really crooked teeth as you describe, you are also looking at dental issues which can be painful in the future. Such as? Please enlighten me, as you seem to be quite the Dental Expert. If the guy is seeing a dentist regularly, then his dentist will be monitoring and advising him of any problems/ conditions that could potentially cause problems in the future. Thats what we train for 5+ years for! Plus, I'm sorry but...crazy crooked teeth just don't look attractive whatsoever. (to me) I have just corrected your generalisation for you so you are only speaking for yourself and not everyone else on the planet. Crooked teeth can be attractive to many people. In some cultures, NO teeth is considered attractive, and in some African tribes, the women have their four front top teeth removed to create what translates to "the pleasure gap" (work it out). Other cultures consider gold teeth to be attractive or status symbols, and yet others think that tooth "art" or "jewellery" is cool. Each to their own- as I said before, do you really think that your friend has lived for 36 years without any awareness of his own dentition at all? I think not.
sb129 Posted October 7, 2007 Posted October 7, 2007 Plus with really crooked teeth as you describe, you are also looking at dental issues which can be painful in the future. Just for the record there are some extreme cases where a malocclusion can be detrimental to a persons ability to function normally. For example, cleft lip and palate, hemifacial microsomia, or cases where a persons ability to eat/ talk/ swallow are affected. However, in most cases these are diagnosed early and treated by a multi-disciplinary team throughout childhood and young adulthood to allow the person to have some active treatment while they are growing, +/- final treatment when they have stopped growing. It is highly unlikely that a 36 year old man has one of these conditions that has been undiagnosed until now. Just another 2 cents from me.
SuperHands Posted October 7, 2007 Posted October 7, 2007 I feel i have something to say about this as I have crooked teeth too. Firstly I understand your caring intentions towards your friend, but I do not think you should even attempt to tell him to get his teeth fixed. If he is to get them fixed, then it's something that HE needs to decide to do, because if you push him, he'll be doing it because other people want him to. I know you can still have girlfriends/boyfriends with crooked teeth. I've just had one and I realise that not everyone finds certain physical aspects of a person attractive. Have you ever stated to your friends how cute a guy looks only to have them turn round and say "no he's ugly"? His inability to get a girlfriend is more likely a confidence/shyness issue. Does he even want a girlfriend? So my advice is, no, do not tell him about his teeth and if you feel you must please please do it as indirectly as possible.
love4ever Posted October 29, 2007 Posted October 29, 2007 My gap was really quite wide and unattractive. It wasn't a small gap. Plus if you really were comfortable with it, you wouldn't even CONSIDER getting the gap size REDUCED. There is nothing wrong with wanting to improve your appearance, just don't be a hypocrite about it. Every time you put on makeup or go to the gym, or go shopping for clothes that flatter your body, you are making an improvement on your appearance so don't give me the "I'm beautiful as I am" bs. You know what, no need to judge me about how I feel about myself. My gap is just bigger than it used to be when I was younger. And I never said there was anything wrong with wanting to improve your appearance, just that YOU can't make that decision for someone else.
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