tanbark813 Posted September 29, 2007 Posted September 29, 2007 I sometimes wonder if guys feel that any woman that gives attention to them, has a romantic or sexual interest. I hope not. You mean like how women think that any man who talks to them wants in their pants?
Trialbyfire Posted September 29, 2007 Posted September 29, 2007 As I have said I have many female friends who I would never think of pursuing in any sexual way. I think that is why I get along so well with them. I give them the feeling that I value them as a friend and they can let their guard down a bit and not have to worry about me making a move at some point. That's a great attitude. I've got close male friends who are like this. The more I see, the less I see this as the norm. You mean like how women think that any man who talks to them wants in their pants? Out of curiosity, wouldn't you say that the average guy, when talking to an attractive girl, thinks more about what's under the wrappings than "Wow, I really like her thought processes."?
tanbark813 Posted September 29, 2007 Posted September 29, 2007 Out of curiosity, wouldn't you say that the average guy, when talking to an attractive girl, thinks more about what's under the wrappings than "Wow, I really like her thought processes."? Well nobody thinks "Wow, I really like his/her thought processes," but for the sake of argument, if you're comparing an average guy talking to an attractive girl versus an average girl talking to an attractive guy, then no, I don't think it's more. I think they're comparable.
Trialbyfire Posted September 29, 2007 Posted September 29, 2007 Well nobody thinks "Wow, I really like his/her thought processes," but for the sake of argument, if you're comparing an average guy talking to an attractive girl versus an average girl talking to an attractive guy, then no, I don't think it's more. I think they're comparable. I don't agree that they're comparable. The average girl needs more than the superficial, to be attracted to someone. If the guy is dumber than a bag of hammers, she will be turned off...fast... If a girl is dumber than a bag of hammers, he will still pursue.
tanbark813 Posted September 29, 2007 Posted September 29, 2007 I don't agree that they're comparable. The average girl needs more than the superficial, to be attracted to someone. If the guy is dumber than a bag of hammers, she will be turned off...fast... If a girl is dumber than a bag of hammers, he will still pursue. You're going off on tangents. Maybe she would be turned off later, but that doesn't stop the initial thoughts. And some girls aren't turned off by a lack of intelligence. Watch Jerry Springer for any number of examples of this. And some guys would be turned off by a lack of intelligence (*raises hand*). The point was that you think men think that any attention shown them is indicative of sexual or romantic interest when this is much more common an assumption among women, when it may not even be justified. And women say men have big egos. Please.
uniqueone Posted September 29, 2007 Posted September 29, 2007 And women say men have big egos. Please. Well, as proven by some of the posts on this thread, I think we would have a hard time arguing with the male ego assumption. Fortunately, the men in my age range are (usually) past the conquest-driven, cavemanish beating-their-chest type drivel that's been spouted about on this--and other--threads. Most--of either sex--can't imagine how silly this will all sound to them in 10-20 years.
halfarock Posted September 29, 2007 Posted September 29, 2007 I’ve had women pursue me for most my life. Mostly in comes in the way of women with crushes. It is flattering yet I always let them down easy. All of the relationships that I’ve had that I think went really well were the ones where the initial attraction was mutual as was the pursuing. So what do you do? Signal the chick with your eyes for a date? I do, sort of. I think that two people can communicate quite a bit just by looking into each others eyes - maybe not exact words, but at least sentiments. Ive never had a girl do all the work like just kiss me, then say lets have sex and undress me and jump on me... IM sure it may happen some where other then porns but must be rare with even semi attractive wo mans There have been a few times where a woman, seemingly out of the blue, sat down beside me and in the course of introducing herself, place her hand between my legs. They weren’t at all the type of women who I would think of as a slut or desperate. I’ve also had women reach out and grab my arm as I began to talk to them. I think of both as being a simular type of response. In either case it sets up a situation where I don’t have to work to get the girl. Youve had an attractive girl do all the work a few times... I really doubt it... Your telling me you didnt pay for anything like a movie... She basicaly said come over to my place and started stripping naked with out even having to rub her the right way... Sure! it has happened to me a few times. The last woman who I had a fling with, came up to me, told me I was cute, and asked if I wanted to go to her place for a beer. Once there she gave me a beer, made me dinner, then proceeded to kiss and undress me. All I did for it; I had seen her around before and had flirted with her but had never spoken to her. But the thing is I work with a lot of women, have lots of female friends, and we have a lot of female students (I think it is a biosciences thing) coming through my institute all the time. So here is an example of what I think is going on. I go out with a few female coworkers and guess what, they also have more female friends. So we hang out and when someone asks my coworker "who is that guy" they may say that's this really great guy from work. Or, when at work it is obvious that I get along very well with my female coworkers; other women pick-up on that really fast I think that my situation is simular. All of my closest friends are women and my social circle is mostly women. I think that a lot of women see my easy association with other women and it gives me a certain credibility.
halfarock Posted September 29, 2007 Posted September 29, 2007 Out of curiosity, wouldn't you say that the average guy, when talking to an attractive girl, thinks more about what's under the wrappings than "Wow, I really like her thought processes."? I’d agree with this. Not long ago I had to work with this woman who I thought was completely incompetent. When I raised my objections about her, all the other men would just start talking about how nice they thought her bottom looked.
Pyro Posted September 29, 2007 Posted September 29, 2007 And some girls aren't turned off by a lack of intelligence. Watch Jerry Springer for any number of examples of this. Don't even try and use Springer or any of that fake as hell reality television as an example. Its for ratings and nothing more.
tanbark813 Posted September 29, 2007 Posted September 29, 2007 Don't even try and use Springer or any of that fake as hell reality television as an example. Its for ratings and nothing more. You can substitute Maury Povich, COPS, Cheaters, any number of YouTube videos, etc..... Dumb guys are not immune to getting laid.
Pyro Posted September 29, 2007 Posted September 29, 2007 You can substitute Maury Povich, COPS, Cheaters, any number of YouTube videos, etc..... Dumb guys are not immune to getting laid. COPS and Cheaters are good examples. No doubt they are not immune. Football players get women all the time. J/K. I mean no disrespect for the football players of the world. Popular culture has made football players out to be ignorant.
shadowplay Posted September 29, 2007 Posted September 29, 2007 You can substitute Maury Povich, COPS, Cheaters, any number of YouTube videos, etc..... Dumb guys are not immune to getting laid. Let's put it this way. You'll see smart guys dating dumb, attractive women. But how often do you se the reverse: smart women dating dumb, attractive men?
Pyro Posted September 29, 2007 Posted September 29, 2007 Let's put it this way. You'll see smart guys dating dumb, attractive women. But how often do you se the reverse: smart women dating dumb, attractive men? That is true. It is more of a rarity to see the latter.
Green Posted September 29, 2007 Posted September 29, 2007 Women love dating dumb men, I never get to intelectual with a women unless I really feel thats going to work and even then I proceed with caution. I tried getting intelectual last night and it was the kiss of death, I then recalbrated my aproach toward pure fun and stupidity and wow it was unstopable as usual, I had guys commenting on how smooth I was at getting in there, I mean the stuff I said was off the wall retarded and they ate it up!
halfarock Posted September 30, 2007 Posted September 30, 2007 I think we are talking about completely different women here. I have the feeling you are chasing the blonde with the boob job and I am flirting with the cute med student. …For me smarter girls are acualy easier to get because they have greater attention spands. a busty blonde would be nice though. I get the feeling a game on an entirely different level then you do… Women love dating dumb men, I never get to intelectual with a women unless I really feel thats going to work and even then I proceed with caution. I tried getting intelectual last night and it was the kiss of death, I then recalbrated my aproach toward pure fun and stupidity and wow it was unstopable as usual, I had guys commenting on how smooth I was at getting in there, I mean the stuff I said was off the wall retarded and they ate it up! Ironic isn’t it? And in more ways than I can tactfully say.
CaliGuy Posted September 30, 2007 Posted September 30, 2007 Women love dating dumb men[/quotE] Birds of a feather flock together. Dumb women aren't even on my radar. Maybe being intelligent is the kiss of death for you, but I tend to think it weeds out the ones I wouldn't be compatible with in the long run. If she can stimulate my mind, the rest of me is easy-smeazy! An intelligent woman to me is dead sexy.
Trialbyfire Posted September 30, 2007 Posted September 30, 2007 You're going off on tangents. Maybe she would be turned off later, but that doesn't stop the initial thoughts. And some girls aren't turned off by a lack of intelligence. Watch Jerry Springer for any number of examples of this. And some guys would be turned off by a lack of intelligence (*raises hand*). The point was that you think men think that any attention shown them is indicative of sexual or romantic interest when this is much more common an assumption among women, when it may not even be justified. And women say men have big egos. Please. Haha...women on Jerry Springer aren't your societal average or higher, on the intelligence scale. Yes, some guys aren't but that doesn't mean it's the average. It was applicable from the perspective of how men view women in general. I suspect that many men don't have female friends for these exact reasons. I mean after all, why befriend a woman if you can befriend a man? What would a woman have to offer as a friend, rather than a man?
Trialbyfire Posted September 30, 2007 Posted September 30, 2007 I’d agree with this. Not long ago I had to work with this woman who I thought was completely incompetent. When I raised my objections about her, all the other men would just start talking about how nice they thought her bottom looked. It happens all the time. I could reel off a list of incompetent receptionists who are stereotypical of this. Very good-looking but what's that I see, a vacancy sign?
Green Posted September 30, 2007 Posted September 30, 2007 Birds of a feather flock together. Dumb women aren't even on my radar. Maybe being intelligent is the kiss of death for you, but I tend to think it weeds out the ones I wouldn't be compatible with in the long run. If she can stimulate my mind, the rest of me is easy-smeazy! An intelligent woman to me is dead sexy. I wasnt talking about my radar... I was talking about theirs
CaliGuy Posted September 30, 2007 Posted September 30, 2007 I wasnt talking about my radar... I was talking about theirs As I was saying, if intelligence scares a woman away, she's not the kind I'd want to be with anyway. Cheers!
lovelorcet Posted September 30, 2007 Posted September 30, 2007 KMT I think you just don't "get it." Caliguy and I are saying that we would not even waste our time with a knock-girl with no brains. *I am not trying to be mean here* We don't need to act like a monkey to get their attention. And when you do act like that then other women see that and the mature women are not going to take you serious...
maynard Posted September 30, 2007 Posted September 30, 2007 Women love dating dumb men, I never get to intelectual with a women unless I really feel thats going to work and even then I proceed with caution. I tried getting intelectual last night and it was the kiss of death, I then recalbrated my aproach toward pure fun and stupidity and wow it was unstopable as usual, I had guys commenting on how smooth I was at getting in there, I mean the stuff I said was off the wall retarded and they ate it up!i would agree with this at least in the initial stages of meeting and early dating. no girl you just met at a bar wants to hear about your opinions on the middle east dumb guys can go pretty far with hot, smart women. i have seen it. simple-mindedness is easily misinterpreted. short, simple, sometimes nonsensical statements in conversations can make a girl think, "what did he really mean by that?" and is attracted. in truth, the guy cant speak coherently. i have witnessed many conversations where the guy is making no sense and girls love it
glittergurl Posted September 30, 2007 Posted September 30, 2007 I don't think it's ever good to be too upfront in the early stages of a relationship; let alone, before you can even call it a relationship. And I'm talking about both men and women. Sure, guys will tell you that they love when a girl comes onto them, etc. Is that the type of girl they fall in love with and want to spend the rest of their life with though? I don't think so.
Green Posted September 30, 2007 Posted September 30, 2007 i would agree with this at least in the initial stages of meeting and early dating. no girl you just met at a bar wants to hear about your opinions on the middle east dumb guys can go pretty far with hot, smart women. i have seen it. simple-mindedness is easily misinterpreted. short, simple, sometimes nonsensical statements in conversations can make a girl think, "what did he really mean by that?" and is attracted. in truth, the guy cant speak coherently. i have witnessed many conversations where the guy is making no sense and girls love it You pretty much summed up what I was trying to say. Look ive dated some of the smartest women around from law students to Dr.s and
tanbark813 Posted September 30, 2007 Posted September 30, 2007 What would a woman have to offer as a friend, rather than a man? A female perspective. As simple an answer as that is I'm surprised you didn't pick up on it. I have female friends who I enjoy talking to because, while I may not necessarily always agree with them, it's good to get perspectives that my guy friends don't always give. I think it's just hard for you to see, TBF, because you're still very bitter towards men. All of your replies come from the perspective of assuming the worst of men.
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