sao2 Posted September 11, 2007 Posted September 11, 2007 Feel free to elaborate as well. Agree or disagree, if two people love each other enough they can figure out how to make it through even the most trying situations.
angie16 Posted September 11, 2007 Posted September 11, 2007 Feel free to elaborate as well. Agree or disagree, if two people love each other enough they can figure out how to make it through even the most trying situations. i agree if they are both willing to work it out!!!
starlite Posted September 11, 2007 Posted September 11, 2007 That is a really tough question!!! I guess if two people are too different and that seems to continue being the problem...then I disagree. They may love eachother but are to different to make it work between them. But i think if they want to make it work and are completely willing to do whatever is needed then I agree. I guess it depends on the circumstances. But NO...I do not believe that love conqours all.
VirtualInsanity Posted September 11, 2007 Posted September 11, 2007 Feel free to elaborate as well. Agree or disagree, if two people love each other enough they can figure out how to make it through even the most trying situations. Agree but both have to be willing.
norajane Posted September 11, 2007 Posted September 11, 2007 No, love doesn't conquer all, not if the 'trying situations' are fundamental differences in beliefs and desires. Two examples: If one person loathes children and has no desire to be a parent, and the other can't wait to have a brood, they are not likely to conquer that with love. Their desires in terms of what they want and don't want out of life are diametrically opposed. Same with religions. Some people can overcome differences in religions and religious beliefs, but if both are equally firm in theirs and cannot begin to imagine converting or raising kids in the other's religion, I don't see how to overcome that with love.
Touche Posted September 11, 2007 Posted September 11, 2007 From my experience the answer is a big HUGE NO. Doesn't matter how much two people love each other or are willing to work it out. Some people just cannot be together as a couple. It's as simple as that.
VirtualInsanity Posted September 11, 2007 Posted September 11, 2007 From my experience the answer is a big HUGE NO. Doesn't matter how much two people love each other or are willing to work it out. Some people just cannot be together as a couple. It's as simple as that. That doesn't make sense. If both are willing to work on it & are then what's the problem?
Trialbyfire Posted September 11, 2007 Posted September 11, 2007 No, love is never enough. Core values and goals have to be similar, in order for any relationship to work.
Touche Posted September 11, 2007 Posted September 11, 2007 That doesn't make sense. If both are willing to work on it & are then what's the problem? Believe me, if you've ever experienced it, it makes all the sense in the world. What's the problem? Different temperaments for one. And as NJ pointed out, different values for another. I could go on and on. These are things that are usually too ingrained for us to really change. You're either with a compatible person or you're not. Doesn't matter if they love each other to death and want to be together more than anything else on this earth. Been there, done that and I can tell you that it was the most painful lesson I've ever learned in life. But it's really true. Love and willingness alone does NOT a good couple make. Trust me on that one. And I think all of us, each and every single one of us, eventually learns that painful lesson in life. Just like I did.
VirtualInsanity Posted September 11, 2007 Posted September 11, 2007 Oh I wasn't thinking about that. I shouldn't assume but my posts are based on both people having the same values, etc...& are going through a tough time. Then if both are willing to work at something & love each other then I agree w/ the statement. I do agree that love doesn't hold a relationship together.
babydoll6 Posted September 12, 2007 Posted September 12, 2007 I don't believe love conquers all, I beleive that the two people working together and compromising is what conquers....If you have a healthy relationship with open communication lines then usally you can come to some kind of agreement, but something else I have learned is that we cannot impose "our" beliefs on our spouse, so sometimes you just have to agree to disagree ....
babydoll6 Posted September 12, 2007 Posted September 12, 2007 Oh I wasn't thinking about that. I shouldn't assume but my posts are based on both people having the same values, etc...& are going through a tough time. Then if both are willing to work at something & love each other then I agree w/ the statement. I do agree that love doesn't hold a relationship together. This is what I was speaking of...Not lies or deciet...
babydoll6 Posted September 12, 2007 Posted September 12, 2007 Some people have the notion that omission of the truth isn't lying, and once you're sucked into a relationship with someone and have built a life with them, sometimes these truths come out. Can love conquer a problem like this? Some might want to believe so. Look at that gal, Mo'nique (or however you spell her name). She's with a guy, and she openly admits she knows he sleeps around, claiming it's alright with her. Oh, really? I bet she secretly HATES it, but just gives in to keep him. Then there's my sis, for example. She began dating a guy, and they "fell in love" over the course of a year and a half. Now, my sis is an animal lover. Her only "children" are her animals. He was great with her kitties, etc. Just a wonderful guy. Once he figured he had her hooked, he comes out with the fact that he is deathly allergic to cats, and just assumed she would choose him over the cats. Now they're in about year 7 of a tug-of-war kind of relationship. She still has her kitties and never plans to not have them, and the two of them are constantly battling. I would say monique is in denial and very insecure about being alone...And I agree she resents him(however I do not know the entire story)....But this is not agreeing to disagree this is being ignorant and a door mat.. and about the cats, well this is lies and deciet..He wants control over her and what she wants and she is not giving it to him...Control issue's he probably demonstartated early on but was very good at hiding.. There is a fine line in which people in a healthy marriage can agree to disagree...I am not saying give the other person control of your life, nor am I saying that you just have to give in, that is not what it is about..It's about compromise and no relationship will make it without it... It is about realizing that because you disagree on a certain subject doesn't mean you need to battle to the death..
norajane Posted September 12, 2007 Posted September 12, 2007 It is about realizing that because you disagree on a certain subject doesn't mean you need to battle to the death.. But some subjects are like that - there is no compromise, and there is no 'agree to disagree'. For example, I might fall in love with someone and not have any idea that he is homophobic because the subject never really came up. However, two of my closest, oldest, and dearest friends are gay, and I would never in a million years commit to a man who would treat my friends as lesser beings because of their sexual orientation. I would not subject my friends to it, nor would I respect a man who felt that way. He might be the most perfect man for me in all other ways, but if he cannot truly alter his belief that there is something 'wrong' with homosexuals, then I'm not seeing how I could be with him no matter how much we loved each other. Same goes for racists and sexists - that's not something people wear on their sleeve, especially when dating and falling in love, but it comes out at some point, and that would be intolerable to me if they could not adjust their thinking.
Trialbyfire Posted September 12, 2007 Posted September 12, 2007 Bang on nj. Other non-negotiables are children, fidelity, level of respect and style of financial spending. For some people, non-negotiables could also be family approval. Everyone has different criteria and hard boundaries.
Reactor Posted September 13, 2007 Posted September 13, 2007 I disagree. The sad fact is love doesn't conquer all. Sometimes some people, no matter how much they love one another just cannot be together. Values, beliefs, temprements, standards (double or otherwise) all get in the way. It mainly boils down to what each party is willing to give. If both people are stubborn and unwilling to sacrifice, then no it just won't work. I do agree the key to a healthy relationship is trust and good communication, talking about problems before they become major problems.
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