Trialbyfire Posted September 9, 2007 Share Posted September 9, 2007 There - I said it. But why? I also can't stand a wimpy man myself. I'll agree with your statement about wimpy men. The men that appreciate assertiveness, are the men who are worth your time and effort. I do so value a guy who has sufficient strength to not feel threatened, no matter how strong a woman is. Link to post Share on other sites
BentSpine Posted September 16, 2007 Share Posted September 16, 2007 Because many women think they are strong when they are just obnoxious, bellligerent and have a constant attitude. These women are an complete nghtmare to be around yet when a man just can't stand it anymore he is accused of being afraid of strong women. Somebody said that men don't want to compete with a woman and that is true. I spend all day fighting battles and slaying dragons and when I get home I just want to relax and eel at peace and with these so called strong women often that is impossible because they just want another argument over trivial crap. Excellent post, Woggle. "Strong personality" or not, if the woman doesn't laugh at my jokes, she's history. Link to post Share on other sites
OpenBook Posted September 16, 2007 Share Posted September 16, 2007 That side of me comes out around 5am. But then I take my pill and it goes away :D:D I love it love it LOVE IT!!! Thanks for making me laugh! :D:D Link to post Share on other sites
OpenBook Posted September 16, 2007 Share Posted September 16, 2007 i do have characteristics that you list - funny - smart - outgoing - talkative (not too much though - i hate that). i also love sports and can talk sports with any man. i am also assertive and have good morals/values. my confidence level is great - was never jealous of my gorgeous husband in all the years we were married. it just seems like men are too easily intimidated by a secure woman these days... why is that? Men don't CARE how many wonderful characteristics you have (and the ones you listed are GREAT for a woman to have, in my book!). No, with men it's all about how you make THEM feel when they're around you. Gradually I have discovered (and this has been VERY hard for me to figure out!) that men have very fragile egos, in spite of their Tough-Man bravado. If you treat them respectfully - never attack their position or try to one-up them - that's when they think you're a Cool Chick, regardless of your own characteristics. Link to post Share on other sites
OpenBook Posted September 16, 2007 Share Posted September 16, 2007 Because many women think they are strong when they are just obnoxious, bellligerent and have a constant attitude. These women are an complete nghtmare to be around yet when a man just can't stand it anymore he is accused of being afraid of strong women. Somebody said that men don't want to compete with a woman and that is true. I spend all day fighting battles and slaying dragons and when I get home I just want to relax and eel at peace and with these so called strong women often that is impossible because they just want another argument over trivial crap. __________________ We live in a society that is has become nearly incapable of independent thought. Um, Woggle you may want to correct your "slogan" there (delete the word "is") ... it kinda takes away from the intent of the message. Link to post Share on other sites
sally4sara Posted September 16, 2007 Share Posted September 16, 2007 I too have discovered that (for the most part) men only seem capable of valuing an assertive woman who will tell them how it is rather than what they want to hear if they are not romantically involved with the woman. If the woman they are in a relationship does this it comes across as their partner isn't in their corner. But think about it for a minute. No one likes it when they feel their partner doesn't have their back. It's just that society raises girl's to doubt their ability to make a steadfast decision while treating boy children from the start as their decisions are their right regardless of the outcome. To their daughters: "Oh sweetie, are you SURE you want to do that?" To their sons: "Go for your goals; you can do anything you put your mind to." So while some guys might find it refreshing to hear a female friend point out a potential pitfall or come up with a different view point, they're still prone to wanting the woman who loves them to be their cheerleader. Link to post Share on other sites
Woggle Posted September 16, 2007 Share Posted September 16, 2007 Men don't CARE how many wonderful characteristics you have (and the ones you listed are GREAT for a woman to have, in my book!). No, with men it's all about how you make THEM feel when they're around you. Gradually I have discovered (and this has been VERY hard for me to figure out!) that men have very fragile egos, in spite of their Tough-Man bravado. If you treat them respectfully - never attack their position or try to one-up them - that's when they think you're a Cool Chick, regardless of your own characteristics. So men should not want a woman that treats us respectfully? I bet you would want the man in your life to treat you with respect so why should a man not want the same in return? Why is it that when a man doesn't want a relationship to be a constant battle that it means that somehow he is afraid of strong women. If you ask me if a woman is truly strong she doesn't need to be belligerant and constantly confontational just to prove a point. What rational person would want to be with a woman that constantly bellitles and puts them down? Link to post Share on other sites
OpenBook Posted September 16, 2007 Share Posted September 16, 2007 So men should not want a woman that treats us respectfully? I bet you would want the man in your life to treat you with respect so why should a man not want the same in return? Why is it that when a man doesn't want a relationship to be a constant battle that it means that somehow he is afraid of strong women. If you ask me if a woman is truly strong she doesn't need to be belligerant and constantly confontational just to prove a point. What rational person would want to be with a woman that constantly bellitles and puts them down? Woggle I agree with ya man. My point was directed toward the OP's original question... trying to answer it. I think sometimes we women get so caught up in being independent and assertive that we sometimes lose sight of how it comes across... to men, anyway. But you will never convince me otherwise of this: that men's egos are fragile, and need protection and TLC from the women they love. Link to post Share on other sites
Woggle Posted September 16, 2007 Share Posted September 16, 2007 Woggle I agree with ya man. My point was directed toward the OP's original question... trying to answer it. I think sometimes we women get so caught up in being independent and assertive that we sometimes lose sight of how it comes across... to men, anyway. But you will never convince me otherwise of this: that men's egos are fragile, and need protection and TLC from the women they love. Women's egos are fragile as well. You hear constantly on this board from women who had an affair because of how the OM made them feel and I think that many OW get a kick out of trying to take a man away from his wife. Women's egos may be different from men's but they have egos just the same. Link to post Share on other sites
OpenBook Posted September 16, 2007 Share Posted September 16, 2007 Women's egos are fragile as well. You hear constantly on this board from women who had an affair because of how the OM made them feel and I think that many OW get a kick out of trying to take a man away from his wife. Women's egos may be different from men's but they have egos just the same. Woggle if I didn't know you better (and I really don't!) I would say you are being "belligerent and constantly confontational just to prove a point." Link to post Share on other sites
Woggle Posted September 16, 2007 Share Posted September 16, 2007 Woggle if I didn't know you better (and I really don't!) I would say you are being "belligerent and constantly confontational just to prove a point." No I mean every word I say and I apologize when I get in a funk and start spouting crap. I am actually quite a chraming guy offline. Link to post Share on other sites
OpenBook Posted September 16, 2007 Share Posted September 16, 2007 No I mean every word I say and I apologize when I get in a funk and start spouting crap. I am actually quite a chraming guy offline. I'll take your word for it, man. Link to post Share on other sites
rockinbeyondrepair Posted September 16, 2007 Share Posted September 16, 2007 There - I said it. But why? I also can't stand a wimpy man myself. there is nothing...and i mean nothing...more sexy than a woman that'll break your arm in twelve places if you call her fat Link to post Share on other sites
bish Posted September 16, 2007 Share Posted September 16, 2007 There - I said it. But why? I also can't stand a wimpy man myself. What do you mean by strong personality? If you mean you can't understand why men have a problem with a woman that likes to flirt with every swinging weenie she meets....well then......ya. Whats not to understand? Link to post Share on other sites
Author 2sunny Posted September 17, 2007 Author Share Posted September 17, 2007 What do you mean by strong personality? If you mean you can't understand why men have a problem with a woman that likes to flirt with every swinging weenie she meets....well then......ya. Whats not to understand? what? jeeeez, re-read the original question. i said strong personality - not strong hormones... Link to post Share on other sites
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