directx Posted August 23, 2007 Posted August 23, 2007 Naw, I have a better chance of getting someone interested in person first. Here is why. Online: she says how tall are you... I say 5'10... she responds sorry Im 4'10" only date guys 8 feet and up. Now she says that because she doesnt want to waste her time with someone she doesnt "think" she will be attracted to. I meet the exact same girl in a grocery store. I'm going to walk out with her contact info. She knows exactly what I look like, and can now make a fully informed choice as to whether I am physically attractive to her. yeah. thats a good point! well said.
Star Gazer Posted August 23, 2007 Posted August 23, 2007 Women do the same thing regarding height. It's kind of funny to browse the personals and see how many chicks who are 5'2" want a guy 6'+. You've said this repeatedly, but it just doesn't jive with the analogy of wanting to date a physically fit person. Most women are shorter than the men they date. Small/shorter women have a greater tendency than taller women to want to feel physically protected by the man they're with. A guy who's 5'2'' to 5'6'' is less likely to make any woman feel physically protected than a guy who's 6' - that's why they're more likely to want a guy who's tall.
IpAncA Posted August 23, 2007 Posted August 23, 2007 Most women are shorter than the men they date. Small/shorter women have a greater tendency than taller women to want to feel physically protected by the man they're with. A guy who's 5'2'' to 5'6'' is less likely to make any woman feel physically protected than a guy who's 6' - that's why they're more likely to want a guy who's tall. SG I agree with that but I have a guy friend who is 5'4" and I feel safe with him more then a lot of guys. Even when we were in grade school together I felt safer with him then anyone else. But I think part of that comes from his "I take no crap" personality and him being able to defend himself very well. Being short myself I use to feel safer with taller people but not so much anymore. I think a lot of it is in women's head about feeling safer with taller men.
tanbark813 Posted August 23, 2007 Posted August 23, 2007 You've said this repeatedly, but it just doesn't jive with the analogy of wanting to date a physically fit person. Most women are shorter than the men they date. Small/shorter women have a greater tendency than taller women to want to feel physically protected by the man they're with. A guy who's 5'2'' to 5'6'' is less likely to make any woman feel physically protected than a guy who's 6' - that's why they're more likely to want a guy who's tall. The reasoning behind it is nothing new. I'm not saying women are wrong for wanting to be protected. I'm saying that they can't give men a hard time for superficial criteria when they have their own. And if you've ever seen a number of real life fights you should know that the taller guy doesn't always win.
directx Posted August 23, 2007 Posted August 23, 2007 You've said this repeatedly, but it just doesn't jive with the analogy of wanting to date a physically fit person. Most women are shorter than the men they date. Small/shorter women have a greater tendency than taller women to want to feel physically protected by the man they're with. A guy who's 5'2'' to 5'6'' is less likely to make any woman feel physically protected than a guy who's 6' - that's why they're more likely to want a guy who's tall. Taller women are HOT!!! And shorter guys can fight better if they know what they are doing. In fact, they usually fight better and harder if they were picked on, because they are used it. Many big guys only THINK they can fight because they aren't challenged much through life (athletes the exception)
Cobra_X30 Posted August 23, 2007 Posted August 23, 2007 You've said this repeatedly, but it just doesn't jive with the analogy of wanting to date a physically fit person. Most women are shorter than the men they date. Small/shorter women have a greater tendency than taller women to want to feel physically protected by the man they're with. A guy who's 5'2'' to 5'6'' is less likely to make any woman feel physically protected than a guy who's 6' - that's why they're more likely to want a guy who's tall. Hmmm... I rarely think in those terms! Maybe thats why I do so much better in person.
annabelle75 Posted August 23, 2007 Posted August 23, 2007 Hmmm... I rarely think in those terms! Maybe thats why I do so much better in person. You really can't relate to most guys because you well ... you are ...perfect. Most guys don't have that going for them. :bunny::bunny:
sb129 Posted August 23, 2007 Posted August 23, 2007 As many of you know, I met Wonderboy online, and one of the great (but obviously not so great depending on which way you look at it) things about it is that you CAN be so picky. I was more interested in guys that were the same height or taller than me, because my previous two BFs were shorter, and that put me off short men in the same way it put me off english men. No offense to the English guys, but twice burnt, thrice shy. You know how you associate certain traits with bad characteristics no matter how irrational it is? Thats it for me and short English guys. So... I must admit, that the weight thing was an issue too for me. I didn't want a guy who didn't keep fit, as I like to keep fit, and I wouldn't be as attracted to someone who didn't do the same. It could end up being an issue if you end up with someone that doesn't have a similar outlook on looking after themselves as you do. That said, I didn't want someone obssessed with their looks, or a body builder type either, as I don't find that attractive at all. I wanted someone with similar attitudes to weight and diet and exercise for me- likes to look after themselves, but likes a good time and the occasional blow out. Wonderboy actually lied about being a non smoker- he gave up recently though, and he is so lovely in every other way I let that go in the end. WB has just told me that he said that when he was looking at womens profiles, he would have definitely not looked at women above a certain weight, as he isn't attracted to them, but he thinks that weight isn't a good enough indication of how good they might look, as you need to take several variables such as height etc into account as well. So he says he would have looked at women 10kg either side of my weight! (I have been informed that does not mean I can gain 10kg...)
Star Gazer Posted August 23, 2007 Posted August 23, 2007 The reasoning behind it is nothing new. I'm not saying women are wrong for wanting to be protected. I'm saying that they can't give men a hard time for superficial criteria when they have their own. Height, in my opinion, is not a superficial quality to focus on. Historically and biologically speaking, women gravitate towards tall, strong men (protectors and providers), while men look for women with wide hips and large breasts (baby-barers). Even in regions of the world where shorter men are more common or women more lithe, these "standards" are what the population gravitates towards. And if you've ever seen a number of real life fights you should know that the taller guy doesn't always win. There's always an exception to the RULE, that's why there's a rule to begin with.
tanbark813 Posted August 23, 2007 Posted August 23, 2007 Height, in my opinion, is not a superficial quality to focus on. If anything it's more superficial since weight can be controlled.
Star Gazer Posted August 23, 2007 Posted August 23, 2007 And shorter guys can fight better if they know what they are doing. In fact, they usually fight better and harder if they were picked on, because they are used it. Many big guys only THINK they can fight because they aren't challenged much through life (athletes the exception) This brings up another point. Dating a short man often comes with it's own negative personality traits, as does dating an obese sloth. I don't want to date an overweight guy unless it's clear to me that his weight comes only from a simple love of food and not some deep-seeded intrapersonal conflict. In addition, I don't want to date a short guy because every single one I know has Napoleon Syndrome as a result of their perception of being oppressed by the taller population.
IpAncA Posted August 23, 2007 Posted August 23, 2007 I don't want to date a short guy because every single one I know has Napoleon Syndrome as a result of their perception of being oppressed by the taller population. Really? You got some strange men in CA SG.
tanbark813 Posted August 23, 2007 Posted August 23, 2007 Well we can't all be as perfect as Princess S_G.
directx Posted August 23, 2007 Posted August 23, 2007 This brings up another point. Dating a short man often comes with it's own negative personality traits, as does dating an obese sloth. I don't want to date an overweight guy unless it's clear to me that his weight comes only from a simple love of food and not some deep-seeded intrapersonal conflict. In addition, I don't want to date a short guy because every single one I know has Napoleon Syndrome as a result of their perception of being oppressed by the taller population. Thats a good point too Star Gazer. That short-man complex can be annoying. But people need to be mentally balanced in general.
IpAncA Posted August 23, 2007 Posted August 23, 2007 Well maybe some would be balanced if they weren't picked on by the giant population all the time. Some of you guys are just cruel.
Star Gazer Posted August 23, 2007 Posted August 23, 2007 Really? You got some strange men in CA SG. I know, tell me about it! But it's not just my experience. Even my girlfriends - some of whom are shorter than me at 5'4'' - will say the same thing: "He's short? He probably has little-man issues." Well we can't all be as perfect as Princess S_G. I ain't perfect, and never pretend or even try to be.
sb129 Posted August 23, 2007 Posted August 23, 2007 I am not being cruel, and really don't want anyone else to take my post personally. I know its silly to not be attracted to short english guys because I have had bad experiences with two, but thats how I feel now!
Star Gazer Posted August 23, 2007 Posted August 23, 2007 I am not being cruel, and really don't want anyone else to take my post personally. Me either!! It's just my experience and my preference.
IpAncA Posted August 23, 2007 Posted August 23, 2007 I know, tell me about it! But it's not just my experience. Even my girlfriends - some of whom are shorter than me at 5'4'' - will say the same thing: "He's short? He probably has little-man issues." I don't know if that's fair to those guys though. Not all of them have little-man issues.
KenzieAbsolutely Posted August 23, 2007 Posted August 23, 2007 Basic biology here. First Impressions count. Men's is looks and health, women's is personality. Hence the happy fat woman and the fun jerk. what about happy fun women and fat jerks? that happens too. nother bunna.
tanbark813 Posted August 23, 2007 Posted August 23, 2007 This kind of proves my original point though. Women like to joke around about little man issues but the second you call them fat they go nuts.
IpAncA Posted August 23, 2007 Posted August 23, 2007 This kind of proves my original point though. Women like to joke around about little man issues but the second you call them fat they go nuts. That's probably because they know they are and someone else noticed. Lol!! But you can't blame them for getting mad because a lot of women are sensitive about their weight.
Pyro Posted August 23, 2007 Posted August 23, 2007 I don't want to date a short guy because every single one I know has Napoleon Syndrome as a result of their perception of being oppressed by the taller population. That was me years ago.
Star Gazer Posted August 23, 2007 Posted August 23, 2007 This kind of proves my original point though. Women like to joke around about little man issues but the second you call them fat they go nuts. You're just jealous because the fat girls can lose their padding but you can't grow taller.
Cobra_X30 Posted August 23, 2007 Posted August 23, 2007 You really can't relate to most guys because you well ... you are ...perfect. Most guys don't have that going for them. :bunny::bunny: That is just sooo true!
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