Author peace_pipe Posted August 14, 2007 Author Posted August 14, 2007 you at getting women? Figure out why the 'losers' are better at getting women than you, and do something about it! I already know why many women like losers. 1) They are exciting (drama) 2) The loser will comply qith everything the woman wants becasue he knows he can't do better 3) If the loser has no job he ain't cheatin' There's not much I can do about it though, cause I ain't changin'
Cobra_X30 Posted August 14, 2007 Posted August 14, 2007 you know what I think of these guys? closed minded and judgemental!! it's their immaturity to think outside the box that prevents them from finding what they are looking for. Yeah, its really superficial. But its going to prevent you from finding what your looking for too, or at least slow the process. If you present yourself in a certain way a guy like me isnt going to want you for more than a good time. I'm telling you from experience. Do you understand what I mean?
DanielMadr Posted August 14, 2007 Posted August 14, 2007 On the other hand.... Ambitious people are dangerous. When life doesnt go their way (the best) they get angry, frustated and aggressive. Most of the time with their frantic seek for achievement, they are just covering their other flaws or the work is de facto only hiding. They are superficial. They have unrealistic demands on their spouses, children etc. Divorce debate: It is right it is a flaw, red flag. Sign of bad decision making maybe. On the other hand it is not some kind of absolute No-Go.
directx Posted August 14, 2007 Posted August 14, 2007 I have to disagree here. It seems to me that there is a big misunderstanding going on here. PP just seem like that to me all he is saying is that he doesn't understand why women choose other men over him...men who has less to offer...at least thats what i got. and to answer that i will say (again) that the reason being is probably because those men are offering them something that you're not...i don't know what that might be but you should look back to try to find out for yourself. Well, thats just it - "the reason being is probably because those men are offering them something that you're not" He doesn't feel he is lacking in anyway and is better than all the 'losers'. He has it all and is blind to the real reason the 'losers' are getting girls and he is not. After looking at all his posts on here, it sure is a real mystery...
kitty99b Posted August 14, 2007 Posted August 14, 2007 Ummm.... you're saying the population of Brazil is more than 93 percent female and less than 7 percent male???? okay let me correct that...the northern you go in brazil the more women per man you'll find....and even though the men and women are more even out in the southern regions those are the areas with more gays...and i can tell from experience that when you go to clubs and bars lets say sao paulo most people are women!!! sadly!
Author peace_pipe Posted August 14, 2007 Author Posted August 14, 2007 What I see you lacking in a big way is depth of emotion and character. When I say depth of emotion, you only see yourself. There is no concept of someone else within your narrow scope of things that matter. You can mouth the words but not understand them. Without this depth of emotion, which is a form of generosity, you will never have character and will always be a cheap man, thus not categorized as a catch. You just described all the women I have dated in the last 3 years.
kitty99b Posted August 14, 2007 Posted August 14, 2007 Well, thats just it - "the reason being is probably because those men are offering them something that you're not" He doesn't feel he is lacking in anyway and is better than all the 'losers'. He has it all and is blind to the real reason the 'losers' are getting girls and he is not. After looking at all his posts on here, it sure is a real mystery... is that true pp? do you really feel superior to all the other men those women chose over you? do you realize that something is keeping women from being with you?
directx Posted August 14, 2007 Posted August 14, 2007 I already know why many women like losers. 1) They are exciting (drama) Figure out how to be exciting to them in a different way! 2) The loser will comply qith everything the woman wants becasue he knows he can't do better I disagree with this. If you give a woman a few laughs and show genuine interest in her, its better than any material gift. 3) If the loser has no job he ain't cheatin' I don't understand this. There's not much I can do about it though, cause I ain't changin' I think you need a different pool of women to fish around in. Seriously. Tons of women out there. Have you looked in different circles?
Trialbyfire Posted August 14, 2007 Posted August 14, 2007 Now THAT'S the thread of the DAY! Start one. I have to disagree here. It seems to me that there is a big misunderstanding going on here. PP just seem like that to me all he is saying is that he doesn't understand why women choose other men over him...men who has less to offer...at least thats what i got. and to answer that i will say (again) that the reason being is probably because those men are offering them something that you're not...i don't know what that might be but you should look back to try to find out for yourself. And I am giving him the reasons I see why he's being passed over. In order for him to catch a woman of character and substance, he has to be willing to give of himself. Self-centered and superficial individuals will always be passed over for the real thing unless they're willing to settle for the same personality type.
kitty99b Posted August 14, 2007 Posted August 14, 2007 Yeah, its really superficial. But its going to prevent you from finding what your looking for too, or at least slow the process. If you present yourself in a certain way a guy like me isnt going to want you for more than a good time. I'm telling you from experience. Do you understand what I mean? i see what you mean and it's sad. but I can't help it. I model for a living and probably will for a long time. I can't change my job because of what man think of it.
Trialbyfire Posted August 14, 2007 Posted August 14, 2007 You just described all the women I have dated in the last 3 years. I rest my case. Like draws like.
Trialbyfire Posted August 14, 2007 Posted August 14, 2007 On the other hand.... Ambitious people are dangerous. When life doesnt go their way (the best) they get angry, frustated and aggressive. Most of the time with their frantic seek for achievement, they are just covering their other flaws or the work is de facto only hiding. They are superficial. They have unrealistic demands on their spouses, children etc. Divorce debate: It is right it is a flaw, red flag. Sign of bad decision making maybe. On the other hand it is not some kind of absolute No-Go. I disagree. Ambition means a drive and motivation to excel. There's nothing wrong with an individual who isn't willing to settle to a non-descript lifestyle. I guess that means that every mistake a person makes in their lifetime, such as any form of dating where the other person is not a good fit would be considered a poor decision maker since they are unable to judge that someone would be worthwhile from the minute they meet them. Me, I see people who do get married and then subsequently divorced as people who are willing to take chances in life for that greater happiness in a committed relationship. People who remain single forever tend to stay that way because they're emotional cowards or commitment phobic.
Krytellan Posted August 14, 2007 Posted August 14, 2007 Just another example of a poster wanting affirmation, not advice or info.
Cobra_X30 Posted August 14, 2007 Posted August 14, 2007 i see what you mean and it's sad. but I can't help it. I model for a living and probably will for a long time. I can't change my job because of what man think of it. You dont have to quit your job... just dont try to meet dates while your at work. I stopped messing with them because it felt like they just wanted $$$ and nothing else. Plus, I just could not bring myself to trust a girl that flirts with guys at a club for a living. Your probably not like all that, so I would bet there are tons of guy that would see you for who you are, IF you met them outside of work... and presented yourself as a nice conservative girl.
kitty99b Posted August 14, 2007 Posted August 14, 2007 I disagree. Ambition means a drive and motivation to excel. There's nothing wrong with an individual who isn't willing to settle to a non-descript lifestyle. I guess that means that every mistake a person makes in their lifetime, such as any form of dating where the other person is not a good fit would be considered a poor decision maker since they are unable to judge that someone would be worthwhile from the minute they meet them. Me, I see people who do get married and then subsequently divorced as people who are willing to take chances in life for that greater happiness in a committed relationship. People who remain single forever tend to stay that way because they're emotional cowards or commitment phobic. very very true!!
DanielMadr Posted August 14, 2007 Posted August 14, 2007 I disagree. Ambition means a drive and motivation to excel. There's nothing wrong with an individual who isn't willing to settle to a non-descript lifestyle. I guess that means that every mistake a person makes in their lifetime, such as any form of dating where the other person is not a good fit would be considered a poor decision maker since they are unable to judge that someone would be worthwhile from the minute they meet them. Me, I see people who do get married and then subsequently divorced as people who are willing to take chances in life for that greater happiness in a committed relationship. People who remain single forever tend to stay that way because they're emotional cowards or commitment phobic. I presented opposite side of a coin. World is not black and white but the worst thing one can do is to think everything is therefore gray To excel for what? For the sake of ones ego? Ambition should be goal orriented not a way to describe a person. And the goal should be legitimate one - not selfish. I know men. And I can tell you those of strong character and integrity, those who are able to risk their lives for a legitimate reason arent those one would descibe as ambitious. What is non-descript lifestyle? As I said I dont see divorcee as some spawns of hell. But you must admit it is not crystal clear record then. Dont forget another thing.... Female virgin is valued by men. Male virgin is despised by women. The same goes for marriage resp. divorce.
Trialbyfire Posted August 14, 2007 Posted August 14, 2007 I presented opposite side of a coin. World is not black and white but the worst thing one can do is to think everything is therefore gray To excel for what? For the sake of ones ego? Ambition should be goal orriented not a way to describe a person. And the goal should be legitimate one - not selfish. I know men. And I can tell you those of strong character and integrity, those who are able to risk their lives for a legitimate reason arent those one would descibe as ambitious. What is non-descript lifestyle? As I said I dont see divorcee as some spawns of hell. But you must admit it is not crystal clear record then. Dont forget another thing.... Female virgin is valued by men. Male virgin is despised by women. The same goes for marriage resp. divorce. I'm going to call you on the bolded text. I've got enough men in my life that are all the above positives and more which is why I won't settle for less. I know they exist. A non-descript lifestyle is one where a person does minimally what is required to get by. Not much of a life, I would say. Give me a risk-taker any day of the week. At least they're not afraid of life. What is a crystal clear record? A boy or girl in a bubble, too afraid or selfish to give or to commit? Ummm...gird your loins then, if men value the chastity belt...
Cobra_X30 Posted August 14, 2007 Posted August 14, 2007 I know men. And I can tell you those of strong character and integrity, those who are able to risk their lives for a legitimate reason arent those one would descibe as ambitious. I mostly agree with you mostly because financial success can go to a guys head. I've had to deal with that issue more than once. Luckily, I have a dad that isnt afraid to bring me back to reality. Also there are very different ways to measure success. My friend from Highschool has a wife and beautiful children that love him dearly... Perhaps that makes him more successful than I.
Cobra_X30 Posted August 14, 2007 Posted August 14, 2007 I'm going to call you on the bolded text. I've got enough men in my life that are all the above positives and more which is why I won't settle for less. I know they exist. A non-descript lifestyle is one where a person does minimally what is required to get by. Not much of a life, I would say. Give me a risk-taker any day of the week. At least they're not afraid of life. What is a crystal clear record? A boy or girl in a bubble, too afraid or selfish to give or to commit? Ummm...gird your loins then, if men value the chastity belt... TBF, You must be dead set on an "outstanding" man!
Trialbyfire Posted August 14, 2007 Posted August 14, 2007 TBF, You must be dead set on an "outstanding" man! You know it Cobra.
DanielMadr Posted August 14, 2007 Posted August 14, 2007 I'm going to call you on the bolded text. I've got enough men in my life that are all the above positives and more which is why I won't settle for less. I know they exist. O.K. Good for you. 8 out of 10 women confuse ambitious and arrogant boy with a Man. And so do some boys. So they become ambitious, arrogant and selfish. A non-descript lifestyle is one where a person does minimally what is required to get by. Not much of a life, I would say. Give me a risk-taker any day of the week. At least they're not afraid of life. OK. I know what you mean. No couch potato. But you have to be warned. There is a risk-taker and there is a risk-maker. The latter looks for risky situations not to be taken for coward, the former takes only neccessary risks, because he knows he is not a coward...he had his share of risks. What is a crystal clear record? A boy or girl in a bubble, too afraid or selfish to give or to commit? Or those selfish and hot-headed looking for instant gratification, unable to live without somebody beside them. Ummm...gird your loins then, if men value the chastity belt... We just hate the idea some sleazy character been there before.
DanielMadr Posted August 14, 2007 Posted August 14, 2007 I mostly agree with you mostly because financial success can go to a guys head. I've had to deal with that issue more than once. Luckily, I have a dad that isnt afraid to bring me back to reality. Also there are very different ways to measure success. My friend from Highschool has a wife and beautiful children that love him dearly... Perhaps that makes him more successful than I. One has to check their character portfolio dayly Yeah wife and children. You know what, give yourself a slap. I did. Woman has to want kids with you first...and more than you do. I guess they love to tame a man into daddy. Dont do their work for them befohand
Cobra_X30 Posted August 14, 2007 Posted August 14, 2007 You know it Cobra. I think PP's hat is in the ring!
kitty99b Posted August 14, 2007 Posted August 14, 2007 I think PP's hat is in the ring! what does that mean?
Trialbyfire Posted August 14, 2007 Posted August 14, 2007 O.K. Good for you. 8 out of 10 women confuse ambitious and arrogant boy with a Man. And so do some boys. So they become ambitious, arrogant and selfish. Agreed. Sometimes it takes awhile to differentiate the two but people can only hide this for so long before they relax and the above surfaces. OK. I know what you mean. No couch potato. But you have to be warned. There is a risk-taker and there is a risk-maker. The latter looks for risky situations not to be taken for coward, the former takes only neccessary risks, because he knows he is not a coward...he had his share of risks. That's why intelligence and common sense are integral to a "catch" although being afraid to take any risk, regardless of past failures, is also an act of cowardice. Or those selfish and hot-headed looking for instant gratification, unable to live without somebody beside them. Marriage and divorce doesn't define the needy. Your described negative attributes can easily be applied to the emotional coward. He/she will look to hold onto an individual through assorted manipulative methodologies, in order to gain the same end result. That legal commitment isn't a part of this, simply smacks of selfishness and cowardess. We just hate the idea some sleazy character been there before. And you guys think that a pen dipped in consistent sloppy seconds is attractive?
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