RIDINGTHEBULLS1 Posted July 29, 2007 Posted July 29, 2007 If I wanted to get some "CRED" and stray from my other name, don't you think I would have came up with an entirely different name? You are a complete joke lady. And I don't care what I might have posted when I was drunk, I never cheated. And I don't even remember posing as a cheater either. LOL But if I did and chastised someone, they probably deserved it.
Tomcat33 Posted July 29, 2007 Posted July 29, 2007 TC, you really said it all! What I have been wanting to tell people when they say the things they did. At times, it's hard to understand one's situation and I think it's only because they're ARE NOT in my or your situation. Like my r/ship with MM, his wife needed a wake up call and even when found out/suspected something amissed, she still hasn't done anything about it. It's like she's just closed one eye and hope that things will get better but how can it get any better if she doesn't work with him to make things better?? I would let him go if she really wanted to make things better at home... but the thing is, she doesn't and on top of that, she still can't accept his strong personality even after 6 yrs of marriage. Telling him he should change etc... I just don't think that's right at all. You don't change the person you love/in love with. Ooops, sorry - that was way off the subject! Lyssa, I love coming to LS to share advice and to learn from the advice posted here but if there is one thing that really used to bother me in my fragile state and no longer does, is the judgmental accusations I am asked to incurr by some people who have no idea about these particular situations and who are solely seeking approval and the venting of their own issues thought the cheerleading of other exttremists such as themselves. If happens a LOT here. I now take in in stride. But I will gladly always tell it like it is. I just don't feel ANY responsibility for what happened to them in their marriage, 1. I wasn't part of it 2. I was not responsible for their duties to their marriage anymore than I can make a man love me and not his W or vice versa. We are all functioning capable free willled human beings NO ONE makes us do anything we don't want to do. If he resigned to his marriage it his choice/doing. I happened to fall in love with someone who's heart was open to fall in love again. The pain that this rel. served me was a high enough price to pay. His W meant nothing to me, she was part of the picture because they were still married, but if she meant nothing to him then why should I stop to worry about her? My feeling towards her go as far as feeling sorrow that it did not work out with her H and that they wer not able to work things out in time. But he had his reasons for quitting on her, as she did on him who am I to try to fix that? AND beleive me I did at first but all I got was resistance so he was a grown adult if he chose to proceed in the manner that he did the consecuences are HIS not mine. He is now getting divorced so that is the price he had to pay for his actions. In turn I lost the love of my life and could never go back because I ended up losing respect in how he handled things, and I see him in a totally different light. I have my fair share of consecunces to deal with. If someone doesn't feel sorry for me, that's fine I give a rat's a$$ about some strangers pitty that is based on their own narrow views and on nothing that has any relevance to my particular sit. The people who love me do care and whom I care most are with me and they support me, that's all I need. But those same overly critical people are NOT going to make me accept something I just don't feel responsible for. And I will speak up about it a million times if I have to. So to them I say GET OVER IT. This is me, take me or leave me it will STILL be me!
Tomcat33 Posted July 29, 2007 Posted July 29, 2007 If I wanted to get some "CRED" and stray from my other name, don't you think I would have came up with an entirely different name? You are a complete joke lady. And I don't care what I might have posted when I was drunk, I never cheated. And I don't even remember posing as a cheater either. LOL But if I did and chastised someone, they probably deserved it. It's just VERY interesting that Ridingwithtbulls, who was a self proclaimed cheater, stopped posting on July 1/2007 and Ridingwithbulls1 was created and started posting on July 2/2007. :lmao::lmao: I wouldn't doubt you are the same person since for a cheater you would have mastered the art of LYING. :lmao: But again, as I said before that is just my speculation.
RIDINGTHEBULLS1 Posted July 29, 2007 Posted July 29, 2007 You seem to be pretty obsessed with me. What I did was low-class and twisted. But I was NOT myself when I was with him. I did EVERYTHING he asked me to do. I was his little "puppet" as my mother would say. He turned me into someone that was DISGUSTING to myself!! Thank GOD I have seen the light. But you don't want to leave them alone. You still want to send pictures and blah blah blah. You want this guy to think about you again or something. You put all the blame on him when in reality, you are NOT a puppet. You have a choice and you continued to make the wrong one OVER AND OVER again and then you wonder why the wife is pissed as hell at you.She was kind to you until she found out you CONTINUALLY kept sleeping with her husband; one time being in the SAME ROOM with her and her children while they are sleeping. That is some sick shi_ right there. Keep putting the blame on the MM. Give me a break. Both of you are to blame in the poor circumstances that now exist in both of your lives. The way you took advantage of that woman is beyond reprehensive. If someone did that to me, I'd probably feel like KILLING THEM! And I'm sure most others would to.
RIDINGTHEBULLS1 Posted July 29, 2007 Posted July 29, 2007 It's just VERY interesting that Ridingwithtbulls, who was a self proclaimed cheater, stopped posting on July 1/2007 and Ridingwithbulls1 was created and started posting on July 2/2007. :lmao::lmao: I wouldn't doubt you are the same person since for a cheater you would have mastered the art of LYING. :lmao: But again, as I said before that is just my speculation. Um, did I ever deny I was?? If I were you, I'd take a little more time to understand my posts. You are making no sense to me at all now. LOL@ "art of lying".. you are cuckoo. You wouldn't know I was lying if you tried. Afterall, you thought all of my previous posts in the past were FACTUAL. I don't remember portraying myself as a cheater at all, but If I did, I really don't care much about it. But apparently, you have a lot at stake in my past posts??
Tomcat33 Posted July 29, 2007 Posted July 29, 2007 Um, did I ever deny I was?? If I were you, I'd take a little more time to understand my posts. You are making no sense to me at all now. LOL@ "art of lying".. you are cuckoo. You wouldn't know I was lying if you tried. Afterall, you thought all of my previous posts in the past were FACTUAL. I don't remember portraying myself as a cheater at all, but If I did, I really don't care much about it. But apparently, you have a lot at stake in my past posts?? Nahh I just call it as I see it, if the shoe fits..... Apparantely I didn't have to try too hard. LOL
Lyssa Posted July 29, 2007 Posted July 29, 2007 I just don't feel ANY responsibility for what happened to them in their marriage, 1. I wasn't part of it 2. I was not responsible for their duties to their marriage anymore than I can make a man love me and not his W or vice versa. I am like you. I don't feel responsible at all for whatever actions he takes/has taken. Way before he met me, things have changed between them. I wasn't the one to cause his wife the pain - in fact, at this moment she has no clue that her husband is in love with me so I don't think she feels any pain. I did not ask him to fall in love with me. It just happened. I always put myself in other ppl's shoes (or at least, I TRY to) so I can know how they're feeling and trust me, I know what I am doing is wrong but at the same time, I am not making things worse at home (theirs). W doesn't know and MM is just being himself around the house. Doing his normal activities (kids, golf, cricket etc). What pisses me off is that some BS does not want to admit that they could be the cause of the Hs straying etc. I know there are men out there who cheats just because they can, just for the fun of it etc but there are also men who starts a r/ship with OW because they don't feel loved/wanted anymore. Some BS just push their H/W away. That happens and I don't know why some ppl can't accept that!
Tomcat33 Posted July 29, 2007 Posted July 29, 2007 I am like you. I don't feel responsible at all for whatever actions he takes/has taken. Way before he met me, things have changed between them. I wasn't the one to cause his wife the pain - in fact, at this moment she has no clue that her husband is in love with me so I don't think she feels any pain. I did not ask him to fall in love with me. It just happened. I always put myself in other ppl's shoes (or at least, I TRY to) so I can know how they're feeling and trust me, I know what I am doing is wrong but at the same time, I am not making things worse at home (theirs). W doesn't know and MM is just being himself around the house. Doing his normal activities (kids, golf, cricket etc). What pisses me off is that some BS does not want to admit that they could be the cause of the Hs straying etc. I know there are men out there who cheats just because they can, just for the fun of it etc but there are also men who starts a r/ship with OW because they don't feel loved/wanted anymore. Some BS just push their H/W away. That happens and I don't know why some ppl can't accept that! I agree with almost eveything you said, except for that part about how some BS won't accept that they pushed their Hs to stray. I would see it more as the BSs is in denial that they have problems in their marriage (in some cases, we do need to point out in some marriages there are no significant problems it is just a matter of a stagnating rel etc so the spouse seeks a lover to spark some excitement) but in those rels where there are significant problems that are being overlooked in order to keep chugging along, I think some Bss are totally in denial, including the cheating spouse. There is resistance on both parts to improve the rel even though they know it is in trouble. What I don't agree with though is that the BS "pushes" the cheater to cheat, it is always the cheater who pushes themselves to cheat. I think if the BS knew that the cheater was thinking of cheating it might make them take action to fix what is wrong. But we all know that never happens. I think also it is worth noting that sometimes though the cheater knew there were problems they didn't go out seeking a lover it just happened. as the problems at home were compounding this new person offers the ideal escape. So where I go into debate and seem to have to state my stance is that I beleive that if it were not myself it would any other woman who could easily be in the OW seat. Because let's face it the WHOLE world is the OW/OM to a troubled marriage. We always run the risk that if we negelect our rel our partners might find a sudden interest in someone else. Vows or no vow, it CAN happen and we all know that you would be naive not to think that. Marriage vows are laws stipulated by us humans to create some sort of order, but at the end of the day we are still humans who are suceptilble to breaking said laws if not in the right frame of mind, or simply beacuse we feel like it. If I am feeling vulnerable and my friends push me to steal a pair of sunglasses from a department store an I get caught, trying to explain to a judge what lead me to that decision is not going to matter. Nor will it matter that my friend egged me on to do it, or that I was feeling extra vulnerable because I just lost my job and had not purchased an item of luxury in quite some time. The judge is going to say "while I can appreciate what lead you to do what you did and that your friend helped you in the decision YOU still did it" and the one who is getting the criminal record is you not your friend or your boss who fired you and caused you emtional distress. So in the example a person's duty to the law is the same duty they have to the law of marriage. It is your doing an you are going down if you break it. But more often than not some BSs want the OW/Om and the cheater to share the duty to them by blaming the OW/OM equally. I personally do not accept that. You comit a crime you are resposible for it. That's how everything works in life, in an A I see it as no different. And until I see a law that prohibits single people from getting involved with married people, then I don't think the OP is comitting a crime, that's where morality comes in...if my morals are out the window that's a different story but the crime was committed by him not me.
Lyssa Posted July 29, 2007 Posted July 29, 2007 I agree with you. I came here to find some support from those who have or is in the same situation. And of course, for advice as well. So far, I have been getting PMs bashing me which I took your advice and Lizzie's to ignore them. Other than that, some have been very supportive. I never thought I'd be involved with a MM. That was the last thing I wanted to do. I have seen how a few of my mother's friends went through when they found out their husbands were cheating on them. I didn't want that. I didn't even want to be the OW. Out of 4 of my past r/ships, 3 cheated on me. So I know how it feels. Now, I'm the OW. See how things just happen or like we all know, life is like a wheel. When you least expect it, things turn around and you became the person you never wanted to be. I know how his wife would feel if and when she finds out. But from the emails she sent and the things she have told me, I don't think she'd be that hurt. If he stays, I know it will only be because of their kids. You see, his son is deaf and he is only 22 mths old. He just recently turned deaf. So I asked him, doesn't this bring you both closer? He said yes but just that. They work together to raise funds, get things done for their son but emotionally, she turns to strangers. She told me once that he doesn't seem too effected by it or isn't giving her the support that she needs. I always tell him to give her more support and he actually did, called her up and told her that everything will be fine, God will help them through this... but he was talking about their son's situation. She emails strangers for support system. She told me also that sometimes it's better to talk to strangers because what she has or wants to say, would not get to her H's or family's ears. Why doesn't she want to make things better? If things are better, I know he would tell me. Because I told him, to make things easier for both of us in the future, we need to be honest and tell each other how we feel etc, even if it will hurt...
outofdarkness Posted July 29, 2007 Posted July 29, 2007 I agree with you. I came here to find some support from those who have or is in the same situation. And of course, for advice as well. So far, I have been getting PMs bashing me which I took your advice and Lizzie's to ignore them. Other than that, some have been very supportive. I never thought I'd be involved with a MM. That was the last thing I wanted to do. I have seen how a few of my mother's friends went through when they found out their husbands were cheating on them. I didn't want that. I didn't even want to be the OW. Out of 4 of my past r/ships, 3 cheated on me. So I know how it feels. Now, I'm the OW. See how things just happen or like we all know, life is like a wheel. When you least expect it, things turn around and you became the person you never wanted to be. I know how his wife would feel if and when she finds out. But from the emails she sent and the things she have told me, I don't think she'd be that hurt. If he stays, I know it will only be because of their kids. You see, his son is deaf and he is only 22 mths old. He just recently turned deaf. So I asked him, doesn't this bring you both closer? He said yes but just that. They work together to raise funds, get things done for their son but emotionally, she turns to strangers. She told me once that he doesn't seem too effected by it or isn't giving her the support that she needs. I always tell him to give her more support and he actually did, called her up and told her that everything will be fine, God will help them through this... but he was talking about their son's situation. She emails strangers for support system. She told me also that sometimes it's better to talk to strangers because what she has or wants to say, would not get to her H's or family's ears. Why doesn't she want to make things better? If things are better, I know he would tell me. Because I told him, to make things easier for both of us in the future, we need to be honest and tell each other how we feel etc, even if it will hurt... Your post is VERY disturbing to me b/c my H's main OW of ten years focused almost exclusively on our son when she sent me the D day letter by snail mail three years ago...You are having an A w/ the H...NOT his family...IMHO, I'd stay out of family matters and stick to spending and enjoying your time w/ your MM....Do you want a family or a r W/ an MM? Personally, I found my H's OW's obsession and interest in very personal family matters more disturbing then the thought of anything physical going on...ood
Cliche Posted July 29, 2007 Posted July 29, 2007 Found out tonight they are getting a D, it was WELL overdue and should have happened before he met me That's interesting, Tomcat. How do you feel about that? And I pretty much feel the same way you do. The defects in their marriage were there long before I got there. While I think the ending of their marriage is best for both of them because they simply weren't right for one another, I do not feel responsible for its demise, nor would I have felt responsible if he would've stayed with her and they would've worked through it. People have As for a reason...either a defect in the marriage or a defect with the individual. The latter are the truly disturbing ones. The former are usually the more painful, but the A is a symptom, not a cause.
Tomcat33 Posted July 29, 2007 Posted July 29, 2007 That's interesting, Tomcat. How do you feel about that? And I pretty much feel the same way you do. The defects in their marriage were there long before I got there. While I think the ending of their marriage is best for both of them because they simply weren't right for one another, I do not feel responsible for its demise, nor would I have felt responsible if he would've stayed with her and they would've worked through it. People have As for a reason...either a defect in the marriage or a defect with the individual. The latter are the truly disturbing ones. The former are usually the more painful, but the A is a symptom, not a cause. Well how I feel is that I am not super surprised. If it's like what I saw through the fog of what I shared with this man and all the things he told about his marriage, why they ended up together, why they never had children, why he was never really in love with his W but at the time he married her he felt she was good enough, I am not one bit surprised they couldn't make the marriage work especially after something as painful as finding out he had moved on to love another woman, and all the lies that followed after that. I had a feeling it would end this way it was just a matter of time. I got to know him pretty well, he just does not have drive to make that marriage work his heart wasn't into her he cared about her in a friendly way but not in a loving way, he just didn't love her and by the sounds of it neither did she. I think the only type of rel that has any hope at all at survival after and A is that type of rel where there was always passionate love and deep friendship and connection and the A happenes because it hits a dry patch, it was literally a grave mistake. In my ex guy's situation they seemed like they just should not have been together, and I know in my heart he went back to his house to save his finances. That's how I feel about what I found out last night. How do I feel when he comes sniffing around to let me know himself he is getting a D (and I'm pretty sure he will he is quite predictable by now) I have lost all respect for this man mainly by how he lead me on and how he lied to me up until the last moment. My heart has changed, yes I still love him but I still love the idea of who he was, the idea of the man I thought he was when I first met him. Now that I see what a coward he was an how poorly he has done things.I know for certain I deserve much more than that. But it will feel good if he does come crawling back to say to him, not thanks it is just too late for us. I just don't think I could be happy with him is the bottom line.
East of Jupiter Posted July 29, 2007 Posted July 29, 2007 I agree with you. I came here to find some support from those who have or is in the same situation. And of course, for advice as well. So far, I have been getting PMs bashing me which I took your advice and Lizzie's to ignore them. I know how his wife would feel if and when she finds out. But from the emails she sent and the things she have told me, I don't think she'd be that hurt. If he stays, I know it will only be because of their kids. You see, his son is deaf and he is only 22 mths old. He just recently turned deaf. So I asked him, doesn't this bring you both closer? He said yes but just that. They work together to raise funds, get things done for their son but emotionally, she turns to strangers. She told me once that he doesn't seem too effected by it or isn't giving her the support that she needs. I always tell him to give her more support and he actually did, called her up and told her that everything will be fine, God will help them through this... but he was talking about their son's situation. She emails strangers for support system. She told me also that sometimes it's better to talk to strangers because what she has or wants to say, would not get to her H's or family's ears. Why doesn't she want to make things better? If things are better, I know he would tell me. Because I told him, to make things easier for both of us in the future, we need to be honest and tell each other how we feel etc, even if it will hurt... I am often simply floored. This is one of those times. How about him excercising some of that honesty with his wife and family? How can he be giving his wife the support she needs when he is so busy having an affair at the same time? You can't even see the truth of that? And she says he doesn't seem very affected by the tragedy afflicing his child? Obviously. But she is the bad guy. As a mother of a chornically ill child, I can tell you about the complicated dynamics of raising such a child. 22 months old? Just turned deaf? Crisis in the family and all he can think of his pecker? His emotional needs? His "love" for you? I could not invent a bigger creep. And you are playing supportive friend? Talk about insult upon injury upon tragedy. This poor woman is even trying to help by not dumping all of her anxieties on her poor husband by seeking a support group. That bitch! Why doesn't she recognize that her husband NEEDS her more than ever now that he is CHEATING ON HER. I am a stranger. But I beg you for the sake of that baby to step back. And for crying out loud don't continue betraying this woman by pretending to be any kind of friend or support source. This may be harsh but when it comes to the well being of children, I really have little patience. Your relatoinship with this man is not in the best interest of this child. You are his nemesis as much as to the wife. Those stolen moments and hours with you should be devoted to supporting that child's support system. His mother. I will add a prayer for all of you tonight. Oh what webs we weave when trying to deceive ... It is as if we lose our humanity (self included). 1
PoshPrincess Posted July 30, 2007 Posted July 30, 2007 But I don't think the blame for this falls squarely on the BW. Had her husband had the gonads to end his marriage like a man rather than creating this mess for his wife and children, things would have been quite different. Don't you think? Well said, EastofJupiter. I couldn't agree more! Horror Stories? I have to say I don't really have any about the BS in my sitch. Only one thing that I did think was pretty out of order was that when DDay came and BS found texts from me to her H, she showed them to their teenage daughter (yeah, yeah, ok, this could've been another MM line!!!) I can see WHY she did it. To hurt H the best way she knew how! I just can't comprehend HOW she could use her kids in any way. Personally, I can't blame her for anything else she did or didn't do. I think she was well within her rights. In fact, if I was in her position I am sure I would have behaved a lot less dignified! Being that I was 50% to blame for her state of mind, I would have excused anything other than dragging my son or any other member of my family into it. PS Not all OW/OM are low-class (admittedly we have made stupid mistakes). I would certainly agree that the woman who slept with her MM in the same room as the kids and BS must have some seriously low morals however (even by the usual OW standards!) Certainly a story for the Jerry Springer show! Unbelievable!
outofdarkness Posted July 30, 2007 Posted July 30, 2007 gross who did that? Not only is that gross, I do believe it could be considered abusive..Not sure on this one...Anyone Know?
outofdarkness Posted July 30, 2007 Posted July 30, 2007 I am often simply floored. This is one of those times. How about him excercising some of that honesty with his wife and family? How can he be giving his wife the support she needs when he is so busy having an affair at the same time? You can't even see the truth of that? And she says he doesn't seem very affected by the tragedy afflicing his child? Obviously. But she is the bad guy. As a mother of a chornically ill child, I can tell you about the complicated dynamics of raising such a child. 22 months old? Just turned deaf? Crisis in the family and all he can think of his pecker? His emotional needs? His "love" for you? I could not invent a bigger creep. And you are playing supportive friend? Talk about insult upon injury upon tragedy. This poor woman is even trying to help by not dumping all of her anxieties on her poor husband by seeking a support group. That bitch! Why doesn't she recognize that her husband NEEDS her more than ever now that he is CHEATING ON HER. I am a stranger. But I beg you for the sake of that baby to step back. And for crying out loud don't continue betraying this woman by pretending to be any kind of friend or support source. This may be harsh but when it comes to the well being of children, I really have little patience. Your relatoinship with this man is not in the best interest of this child. You are his nemesis as much as to the wife. Those stolen moments and hours with you should be devoted to supporting that child's support system. His mother. I will add a prayer for all of you tonight. Oh what webs we weave when trying to deceive ... It is as if we lose our humanity (self included). This is another one that goes completely over my head...I am simply in a state of disbelief that a W ANY W would betray another W in this way...Is this part of the whole "thrill" of the A? To have an A w/ this W's H and then befriend her? Does this make you feel superior or help your self esteem in some way..I didn't read all the posts, is this someone that you were friends w/ BEFORE the A started w/ your MM? If not, then there is no excuse IMO... 1
outofdarkness Posted July 30, 2007 Posted July 30, 2007 That's interesting, Tomcat. How do you feel about that? And I pretty much feel the same way you do. The defects in their marriage were there long before I got there. While I think the ending of their marriage is best for both of them because they simply weren't right for one another, I do not feel responsible for its demise, nor would I have felt responsible if he would've stayed with her and they would've worked through it. People have As for a reason...either a defect in the marriage or a defect with the individual. The latter are the truly disturbing ones. The former are usually the more painful, but the A is a symptom, not a cause. But...will you at least admit that you contributed to the pain and heartache felt by ALL involved by having the A...To me that's like saying that you found a pet, say a dog, who was lost and injured...The dog had a collar on...mabey even one of those implanted chips w/ all of the owner's info on it, but you decided to take the dog home and make it YOUR pet, or leave it for dead, or take it to the humane shelter...You may not have CAUSED the dog's demise, but to say that you did nothing to contribute to the owner's pain and agony of not having their pet back or knowing at least where it is, would be a lie...
outofdarkness Posted July 30, 2007 Posted July 30, 2007 Nahh I just call it as I see it, if the shoe fits..... Apparantely I didn't have to try too hard. LOL B/C you don't know that to be the truth..All YOU know is what the MM is telling you and we ALL know that MM's lie by default...
Tomcat33 Posted July 30, 2007 Posted July 30, 2007 B/C you don't know that to be the truth..All YOU know is what the MM is telling you and we ALL know that MM's lie by default... what are you talking about??? did you read what my response what in regards to??? Not sure what your comment has to do with my response you quoted!?!?
Cliche Posted July 30, 2007 Posted July 30, 2007 But...will you at least admit that you contributed to the pain and heartache felt by ALL involved by having the A...To me that's like saying that you found a pet, say a dog, who was lost and injured...The dog had a collar on...mabey even one of those implanted chips w/ all of the owner's info on it, but you decided to take the dog home and make it YOUR pet, or leave it for dead, or take it to the humane shelter...You may not have CAUSED the dog's demise, but to say that you did nothing to contribute to the owner's pain and agony of not having their pet back or knowing at least where it is, would be a lie... As my situation has turned out, no, no I don't consider that I've contributed to pain in the marriage. I've caused my own pain. I truly don't think I had anything to do with pain in the marriage or its end. That was all put into motion many years before I got here. This is circumstantial, btw. If I were in an A where the BS wanted to save her marriage, I would definitely feel differently about my role.
Tomcat33 Posted July 30, 2007 Posted July 30, 2007 But...will you at least admit that you contributed to the pain and heartache felt by ALL involved by having the A... yes of course I admit that. but that's life, we always contribute to someone else's pain either directly or indirectly and the same goes for what happens to ourselves from others. not all situations are perfect and someone has to get hurt. I got just as hurt at his W so......
outofdarkness Posted July 30, 2007 Posted July 30, 2007 what are you talking about??? did you read what my response what in regards to??? Not sure what your comment has to do with my response you quoted!?!? oh..sorry, I put this post in the wrong place..It was in response to another post, and I don't even remember which one it was now..Sorry about that!
Tomcat33 Posted July 30, 2007 Posted July 30, 2007 oh..sorry, I put this post in the wrong place..It was in response to another post, and I don't even remember which one it was now..Sorry about that! oh ok no prob...thought I had missed something...
woe_is_me Posted July 30, 2007 Posted July 30, 2007 I have no horror stories i don't know exmm's wife ..we've never seen one another .. yet we've both shown more maturity than that spineless azzhole will ever have in a lifetime...
jj2007 Posted July 30, 2007 Posted July 30, 2007 If you were not in the picture, would her husband been dissapearing and not answering her calls and her questions? No. Every situation has different circumstances and I don't usually defend OW, But in my experience A's are a product of problems in a M and the lack of self control of the cheating party. If the H in this situation wanted to have an affair it wouldn't matter who because he would do it anyway. All I have to say about the BW in this situation is she is a sorry excuse for a mother. She was seeking attention for herself at her children's expense. A very sad situation.
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