karma and fate

[Jmina]

I was on the train today. I saw a tiny young woman, who appeared to be off her face...she looked like she was going to fall unconscious at any minute... she had all her belongings with her in a garbage bag and a pram...

...I wonder what her story was, how did she get to be that person..? How long would she even last? If someone offered her a second chance would she take it? Or has she already had a billion... what is her fate?

Who can make judgment on her? …You don't know what karma is coming into place...

..I think karma shapes your fate...

Sometimes when things go wrong in your life and you don't know how it got to be, do you blame it on karma?

I have lost someone who means the world to me and I have simply dropped off the face of the earth because of it...I don't know how to make it right... bad things happen to bad people right? but I know in my heart that I’m not, even though a lot of the time I feel like I am...now I’m suffering for it.

Is this a learning experience, karma, both...?

I have always wanted to shape my fate into something desirable, and I have always tried to do so. It reflects in my friendships, my work and family, my spirit...

 

I just want this rollercoaster to be over...and it’s not.

I’m grateful for many things, I can find happiness almost always...sometimes it takes time, but I can when I need to... But sometimes it's not enough ... in fact it's never enough to exit me from this ride.

I have a destiny...but I think I can shape it too ...life chooses you for many reasons... to test you, teach you, help you grow...but is it really life choosing you from a higher power that you can't control? Did you find yourself in a new situation you never dreamed would happen? Or is it karma... Bad things do happen to perfectly good people, like you and me but did you ever watch someone be taunted and do nothing about it? Did you ignore somebody’s cries because of your own problems? Sometimes people treat us bad because of their own misfortunes... then we pass it onto someone else for some sort or unconscious revenge and the pattern continues...

You can't wait for life to tap you on the shoulder... it's not like you just sit back and wait for it to happen because you believe in fate. "What will be will be...?” It is naive and cowardly to think that in the end you have no control over your fate...things that happen in 2 months, 2 years, or 20 years... you can still create your own story...there are many options.

 

..Back to the lady... someone did help her; they lent her their phone to call someone who seemed to be of help.

 

I don't want myself or anyone I know to end up like that lady I saw today.

 

Jmina

 

p.s. so please post back with you opinions even if they are differernt.thankyou

[dbtmarley]

Jmina... good post my friend.

 

 

I believe in karma myself and like you I have wrestled with the "bad things happen to bad people" thought. I've often wondered if things I have done in my past are why I have faced the difficulties of recent years. I am by no means a bad person now, but my past was not necessarily a good one. It's kind of funny though when I think about it. Everything that was bad in my life had a direct effect on the direction I chose which for some reason usually ended up as a positive.. (LOL that word is funny pertaining to me... it kind of has a special meaning). I guess that is what we refer to as destiny though.

 

It is something to think about and I am curious as to what kind of responses others will have.

 

As far as the woman you encountered, who knows what her story is. She may have been an addict and caused pain on those who loved her. She may have been born not as fortunate as others and really never stood a chance. She may have had all the chances in the world and never took advantage, who knows. But I do know this, like you, I never want to stand in her shoes.. It is a scary and painful thought indeed.

[skindeep]

I think I have recently accepted that as good a human being as I have tried 2 be, I have had a "dark side" manifest once or twice-and definately found that Karma paid me a visit. It straightened me right out. Now I have a good, healthy fear of it that keeps me on the straight and narrow! I, believe that our destiny is our choice, Karma is a consequence of making the wrong one!

[directx]

I have had next to nil experiences regarding to karma. Quite disappointing.

Fate, on the other hand...I've had one particular blessing recently, as well as through my past that causes me to wonder.

I could easily have said Fate has always occurred when it was needed.

[Chinook]

• Bad things happen to bad people right?
  
• Is it really life choosing you from a higher power that you can't control?
  
• Bad things do happen to perfectly good people, like you and me.

I don't believe in fate or karma.

 

There are many things in this world which we don't understand and many paths in life where our lives will lead. To put things down to karma and fate is to devolve your own responsibilities to a 'higher power'. The fact is that sometimes bad things happen to people because they make bad choices. But even when people make what seem to be good choices, bad things still happen. The one remaining constant is that we have free will and can choose the lives we lead. A large majority of human beings endure pain and discontent because it is a choice they make.

 

Jmina, like you I lost someone I loved dearly. It was his choice not mine and the situation has hit me hard. But the fact is, early on in the relationship, I knew it wasn't a great situation to be in. I made the conscious choice to go ahead anyhow.... placing myself and my emotions in the hands of my ex-bf...and unsurprisingly, 8 months down the line, he hurt me very badly. I'm not saying we reap what we sow because often we don't...but there are variables and unforeseen issues we cannot take account of irrespective of the choices we make.