GregsBad Posted June 21, 2007 Posted June 21, 2007 Ha ha! I think it's kind of funny that you single men are telling other single men how to go about things. Maybe married (taken) women are in a better position to say what works best? I don't know...just a crazy notion I just had! NO! Never trust a woman to tell you what works with other women. Women who see women in a nice outfit will criticize her clothing. Women who see women in an ugly outfit will complement her clothing. You can't trust them! If a man loves women, he MUST figure out what works and what doesn't work. But don't trust women to TEACH us ANYTHING! They'll only tell you what they wish would work. Like "buy us flowers, nice dinners, open the car door" and so on. If you try all that - you get walked on. But ... if you turn a**hole, then you get girlfriends - lots of them. Oh and a married woman??? Oh whatever NO! Not even her! She'll only teach you what she wishes her husband would do for her!!! She doesn't care about you - OK? ... She's on the other team
Pyro Posted June 21, 2007 Posted June 21, 2007 NO! Never trust a woman to tell you what works with other women. Women who see women in a nice outfit will criticize her clothing. Women who see women in an ugly outfit will complement her clothing. You can't trust them! If a man loves women, he MUST figure out what works and what doesn't work. But don't trust women to TEACH us ANYTHING! They'll only tell you what they wish would work. Like "buy us flowers, nice dinners, open the car door" and so on. If you try all that - you get walked on. But ... if you turn a**hole, then you get girlfriends - lots of them. Oh and a married woman??? Oh whatever NO! Not even her! She'll only teach you what she wishes her husband would do for her!!! She doesn't care about you - OK? ... She's on the other team You've been hurt before by a woman haven't you? As for the GIRLS that like a-holes, you can have every last one of them. I will take a woman instead.
Touche Posted June 21, 2007 Posted June 21, 2007 OP and Greg's Bad are cracking me up. Whatever you say, gentleman. So how's that workin' for ya? Keep doing what you're doing and you'll keep getting what you're getting. But I guess you're ok with that, right?
Touche Posted June 21, 2007 Posted June 21, 2007 You've been hurt before by a woman haven't you? As for the GIRLS that like a-holes, you can have every last one of them. I will take a woman instead. :love: I love you, Rid! (See, I said it first!)
Pyro Posted June 21, 2007 Posted June 21, 2007 :love: I love you, Rid! (See, I said it first!) Right back at you:love:, but don't you dare walk all over me. Now that I have opened up to you, you will surely take advantage of me, get bored of me, and cheat on me. Thats what some guys say happened to them and if it happened to them then it must happen to all of us.
Touche Posted June 21, 2007 Posted June 21, 2007 Right back at you:love:, but don't you dare walk all over me. Now that I have opened up to you, you will surely take advantage of me, get bored of me, and cheat on me. Thats what some guys say happened to them and if it happened to them then it must happen to all of us. I know. Isn't it sad that some people think that way? I'll never get bored of you. And I'll never cheat on you, Rid:p All kidding aside, I get your point. And it's a valid one. It's sad that some people really think that way, like I said. Oh and I'll never take advantage of you, Rid. I mean I haven't all this time so why would I start now, right?
Star Gazer Posted June 21, 2007 Posted June 21, 2007 Just because you have a GF/BF and/or are married doesn't make you any more knowledgable about how to woo an SO. To suggest that you are is really insulting to all the single people here.
Hugh_950 Posted June 21, 2007 Posted June 21, 2007 You've been hurt before by a woman haven't you? Is there such a thing as a man who hasn't been hurt by a woman? Or a woman who hasn't been hurt by a man? I mean other than gay. Are you seriously suggesting that YOU have never been hurt by a female? Or are you thinking you're a Sherlock for detecting another man who has been hurt by a woman.
Hugh_950 Posted June 21, 2007 Posted June 21, 2007 OP and Greg's Bad are cracking me up. Whatever you say, gentleman. So how's that workin' for ya? Keep doing what you're doing and you'll keep getting what you're getting. But I guess you're ok with that, right? I'm just sayin' what works for me. Flowers and fawning failes for me. Being an a**hole gets me more ass than a toilet seat. It works girl. Don't know why ... it just does.
Hugh_950 Posted June 21, 2007 Posted June 21, 2007 Just because you have a GF/BF and/or are married doesn't make you any more knowledgable about how to woo an SO. To suggest that you are is really insulting to all the single people here. I have to agree!
GregsBad Posted June 21, 2007 Posted June 21, 2007 I'm just sayin' what works for me. Flowers and fawning failes for me. Being an a**hole gets me more ass than a toilet seat. It works girl. Don't know why ... it just does. Me too! Trust me ... if sweetness and attention really works ... I'd do it. But it DOESN'T!
oppath Posted June 21, 2007 Posted June 21, 2007 Just because you have a GF/BF and/or are married doesn't make you any more knowledgable about how to woo an SO. To suggest that you are is really insulting to all the single people here. Exactly, and if you read all my posts, I was stating that it works just fine to call a girl the next day, and the day after a date to say you had a good time and to casually suggest another meeting a few days down the line. I was agreeing with the notion that the 3 date rule is stupid and I was telling the OP that he did noting wrong, her lack of a response had nothing to do with him. You can float from relationship to relationship, often ones that last a while, and it doesn't make you any more knowledgeable about dating than someone who dates less often and has had fewer relationships. I'm not single because I do something wrong when I meet a woman; I'm single because I'm still healing from a past breakup, have some major career issues on the horizon, have moved to a new town and am moving again in 2 months, and I haven't met anyone I liked, and even if I did, a relationship would not develop because I have other priorities at the moment. I certainly believe you can call someone straightaways to arrange a date and express interest as long as you aren't going overboard. My posts express this clearly.
GregsBad Posted June 21, 2007 Posted June 21, 2007 As for the GIRLS that like a-holes, you can have every last one of them. I will take a woman instead. No deal Riddler ... I want 'em all! ... The woman too! .
allina Posted June 21, 2007 Posted June 21, 2007 So the guys that purposely don't call for 3+ days what do you think the woman thinks about you? Do you think women think "that guy is so cool, he's so desired and busy that he couldn't call me for the past 3+ days" Because what I would feel about a man like this is "wow this guy lacks the self confidence to just call me, he feels like he needs to follow some BS frat boy rule, what a tool"
Trialbyfire Posted June 21, 2007 Posted June 21, 2007 So the guys that purposely don't call for 3+ days what do you think the woman thinks about you? Do you think women think "that guy is so cool, he's so desired and busy that he couldn't call me for the past 3+ days" Because what I would feel about a man like this is "wow this guy lacks the self confidence to just call me, he feels like he needs to follow some BS frat boy rule, what a tool" There's a major difference between a boy and a man, regardless of biological age.
oppath Posted June 21, 2007 Posted June 21, 2007 Right, all the girl is going to think is "he likes me."
allina Posted June 21, 2007 Posted June 21, 2007 Right, all the girl is going to think is "he likes me." Sorry I'm confused about what you're trying to say here? Is this a response to me?
Author Huntr777 Posted June 21, 2007 Author Posted June 21, 2007 Hi again all, well just an update. Here it is Thursday morning and no email, so I guess she's not that interested. But I'll tell you, I have seen some pretty interesting replies to this question. H777
oppath Posted June 21, 2007 Posted June 21, 2007 Sorry I'm confused about what you're trying to say here? Is this a response to me? Yes, it's an agreement with you. If a guy calls a girl, all the girl thinks is "this dude likes me." If she likes him back, no problems.
Star Gazer Posted June 21, 2007 Posted June 21, 2007 Hi again all, well just an update. Here it is Thursday morning and no email, so I guess she's not that interested. But I'll tell you, I have seen some pretty interesting replies to this question. H777 I don't think you can assume that. Some people don't check their email for days at a time. I don't check my personal email all that regularly, and between the spam and whatnot sometimes I miss important stuff. Your mistake was emailing her instead of calling her. How's about you get her number and CALL?
underpants Posted June 21, 2007 Posted June 21, 2007 I don't think he has her number. Yea, in hindsight that would have been better to get then an email. In all honesty if I met a guy and I was interested and I knew I gave him my email address. I would most likely check it in hopes that he did contact me. However, things happen. I recently gave my email out to someone and they left out a character and then weeks later when I was asked about an email I was like...what email, I never got it. So their are possibilities aside from a lack of interest. Anyway, my question is, in your original email to her did you give your phone number? I still think you could send one more email without coming off as too desperate. If you failed to give her your number the first time you could casually slip it in this final attempt. If you never hear from her is simply was not meant to be. Other fish in the sea and babes on the beach. Regards, Unders
Hugh_950 Posted June 21, 2007 Posted June 21, 2007 So the guys that purposely don't call for 3+ days what do you think the woman thinks about you? Do you think women think "that guy is so cool, he's so desired and busy that he couldn't call me for the past 3+ days" Because what I would feel about a man like this is "wow this guy lacks the self confidence to just call me, he feels like he needs to follow some BS frat boy rule, what a tool" I understand that it might not make sence to you but it's not nearly as stupid as you're spinning it. How many girls have you tried to date? I'm interested in what WORKS, and get most of my advice from men who have tried and tested things that work or don't work. The OP raised a good question - and it's really more about a principle than ahard and fast rule. Now ... one factor that needs to be clear is that ATTRACTIVE women will respond differently to an early call back. Different than AVERAGE women. That's a fact! Don't get pissed OK - it's a fact. An ATTRACTIVE women is NOT as impressed with, early call backs, compliments, or any of those things. They get those things, all the time, from so many many guys. Telling her "you're attractive ... I'd like to get to know you ... I really enjoyed talking to you at the beach yesterday, etc etc." If you are less than very attractive, you won't agree with me. But if you are VERY ATTRACTIVE, you'll not only agree but might even say that getting hit on all the time is even annoying. So, to the OP ... Don't look at it as a rule ... but as a principle ... figure out the reasons some guys even establish these rules. There is a reason. Look, it's like hiring an indian guide to get you through Apache Land. Do you want the white man who's survived a thousands trips. Or do you want an Apache? Figure out what WORKS! Forget about what only makes sence!
GregsBad Posted June 21, 2007 Posted June 21, 2007 Gotta agree with the point about attractive vs average women. A very attractive woman will notice NOT getting called right back more than she'll notice getting an early call back. The 3-day rule? Yep ... but more as a guidline ... depends on the girl. If she's just average ... call her and tell her you want to get to know her ... she might appreciate it. But the very attractive girl??? She already KNOWS you wanna get to know her You and a thousand other guys! .
allina Posted June 21, 2007 Posted June 21, 2007 I understand that it might not make sence to you but it's not nearly as stupid as you're spinning it. How many girls have you tried to date? I'm interested in what WORKS, and get most of my advice from men who have tried and tested things that work or don't work. Now ... one factor that needs to be clear is that ATTRACTIVE women will respond differently to an early call back. Different than AVERAGE women. That's a fact! Don't get pissed OK - it's a fact. An ATTRACTIVE women is NOT as impressed with, early call backs, compliments, or any of those things. They get those things, all the time, from so many many guys. Telling her "you're attractive ... I'd like to get to know you ... I really enjoyed talking to you at the beach yesterday, etc etc." If you are less than very attractive, you won't agree with me. But if you are VERY ATTRACTIVE, you'll not only agree but might even say that getting hit on all the time is even annoying. It IS as stupid as I say it is. I'm not sure how old you are, I'm guessing 17-20 but you're missing my point. I'm also unsure of your experience with attractive women and I have my own guess about that. I know I'm attractive, it's okay if based on this post you don't think so, I know what I know and I'm not defensive about my looks. I get hit on a lot, and when I was single I dated a lot. I've seen all sorts of idiots try to pull all kinds of idiotic stuff with me to impress me. It just made me laugh, because what is impressive is a confident man who calls you when he wants to call you and doesn't need any sort of strategy to get women.
Touche Posted June 21, 2007 Posted June 21, 2007 It IS as stupid as I say it is. I'm not sure how old you are, I'm guessing 17-20 but you're missing my point. I'm also unsure of your experience with attractive women and I have my own guess about that. I know I'm attractive, it's okay if based on this post you don't think so, I know what I know and I'm not defensive about my looks. I get hit on a lot, and when I was single I dated a lot. I've seen all sorts of idiots try to pull all kinds of idiotic stuff with me to impress me. It just made me laugh, because what is impressive is a confident man who calls you when he wants to call you and doesn't need any sort of strategy to get women. Yep, I agree with you. They're the ones who stand out because they're so different from the rest of the pack. And I was never interested in a guy who was just like the rest.
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