hotgurl Posted June 19, 2007 Posted June 19, 2007 ever find out something you can't wrap your brain around? My daughter has some learning problems so we got her tested. We found out she does have deslexia. but the o ther piece is she is smart really smart. they keep going on and on about it. Does anyone know anything about iq etc.. her verbal iq was 136. Is that high? They really made a big big deal about it and I wondering if that means she is gifted. I was wondering if anyone know of any resources for dexlexia and perhaps smart kids. Does this mean my kid is smarter than me?
Enema Posted June 19, 2007 Posted June 19, 2007 136 is above average. She's not gifted. May want to learn how to spell it: dyslexia When she gets older and is feeling down you can say, "You put the sexy in dyslexia!" I kill me.
laRubiaBonita Posted June 19, 2007 Posted June 19, 2007 I was wondering if anyone know of any resources for dexlexia and perhaps smart kids. D.A.M. - Mothers Against Dyslexia, may have some info
Topper Posted June 19, 2007 Posted June 19, 2007 I hope you were able to catch this early on. Your daughter just processes information different then most people. That is all it means. It could be a gift if everyone sees it as nothing more then what it is. In fact she may process information way to fast. A 136 is a high IQ. You are going to need to get her school and teachers to up to speed on her condition and seek out outside sources for the latest teaching methods to help her learn. there is nothing wrong with her she is just different. Do Not let her think she is dumb! Or that she is somehow not right because of this! work to keep her sense of self worth up. I find this hard to talk about. I'm Dyslexic. it was not diagnosed untill I was in my late Teens. I was told I was lazy and did not put effort into learning. I was at one point put in a class for kids with very low IQs. I knew I was smart. This helped depress my feelings of self worth. The biggest problem with being Dyslexic is that many Kids do get their self worth crushed. That is the biggest problem. she is smart and with help will find away to process information. I also have a Nephew that is very dyslexic. He was diagnosed early so he was able to get the help he needed early on. He has graduated college and going on to grade school . This is a bright caring and smart young man.
Author hotgurl Posted June 19, 2007 Author Posted June 19, 2007 I hope you were able to catch this early on. Your daughter just processes information different then most people. That is all it means. It could be a gift if everyone sees it as nothing more then what it is. In fact she may process information way to fast. A 136 is a high IQ. You are going to need to get her school and teachers to up to speed on her condition and seek out outside sources for the latest teaching methods to help her learn. there is nothing wrong with her she is just different. Do Not let her think she is dumb! Or that she is somehow not right because of this! work to keep her sense of self worth up. I find this hard to talk about. I'm Dyslexic. it was not diagnosed untill I was in my late Teens. I was told I was lazy and did not put effort into learning. I was at one point put in a class for kids with very low IQs. I knew I was smart. This helped depress my feelings of self worth. The biggest problem with being Dyslexic is that many Kids do get their self worth crushed. That is the biggest problem. she is smart and with help will find away to process information. I also have a Nephew that is very dyslexic. He was diagnosed early so he was able to get the help he needed early on. He has graduated college and going on to grade school . This is a bright caring and smart young man. In third grade is when we first thought there was a problem. She reads by context and has a big vocab but can't read phonically. But the teachers never said she was Dyslexic. she had an iep in 4h grade but nothing in 5th and we switched school iin 6th grade. Her teacher immediatly noticed something and we had her tested again. She is 12. This school is svery small so she gets lots of extra attention. Plus they go the great lengths not make the kids feel different. In fact a lot of kids are going in and out of the classrooms for various reasons all da.y Unfortunalty since she is smart and a lot of things come very easy for her. She does feel dumb because reading is such a struggle. And sometimes she simpley won't beleive that she is as smart as she is. It is so sad.
laRubiaBonita Posted June 19, 2007 Posted June 19, 2007 on a similar note, i suffer from dyscalculia... which is with numbers, not letters. here are some symptoms that i suffer from, in varying degrees: *Reliance on 'counting-on' strategies, e.g., using fingers, rather than any more efficient mental arithmetic strategies. *Difficulty with mental arithmetic, etc. *May do fairly well in subjects such as science and geometry, which require logic rather than formulas, until a higher level requiring calculations is needed. *Problems differentiating between left and right. *Having a poor sense of direction (i.e., north, south, east, and west), potentially even with a compass. *Difficulty navigating or mentally "turning" the map to face the current direction rather than the common North=Top usage. *Having difficulty mentally estimating the measurement of an object or distance (e.g., whether something is 100 or 200 feet away). *Inability to grasp and remember mathematical concepts, rules, formulae, and sequences. *Difficulty with games such as poker with more flexible rules for scoring. *Difficulty in activities requiring sequential processing, from the physical (such as dance steps) to the abstract (reading, writing and signaling things in the right order). May have trouble even with a calculator due to difficulties in the process of feeding in variables. *The condition may lead in extreme cases to a phobia of mathematics and mathematical devices. basically, i have to learn in math in a different way than the majority of people.... and it is hard to do that in a school that teaches from a strict curriculum.
crazy_grl Posted June 19, 2007 Posted June 19, 2007 on a similar note, i suffer from dyscalculia... which is with numbers, not letters. here are some symptoms that i suffer from, in varying degrees: *Reliance on 'counting-on' strategies, e.g., using fingers, rather than any more efficient mental arithmetic strategies. *Difficulty with mental arithmetic, etc. *May do fairly well in subjects such as science and geometry, which require logic rather than formulas, until a higher level requiring calculations is needed. *Problems differentiating between left and right. *Having a poor sense of direction (i.e., north, south, east, and west), potentially even with a compass. *Difficulty navigating or mentally "turning" the map to face the current direction rather than the common North=Top usage. *Having difficulty mentally estimating the measurement of an object or distance (e.g., whether something is 100 or 200 feet away). *Inability to grasp and remember mathematical concepts, rules, formulae, and sequences. *Difficulty with games such as poker with more flexible rules for scoring. *Difficulty in activities requiring sequential processing, from the physical (such as dance steps) to the abstract (reading, writing and signaling things in the right order). May have trouble even with a calculator due to difficulties in the process of feeding in variables. *The condition may lead in extreme cases to a phobia of mathematics and mathematical devices. basically, i have to learn in math in a different way than the majority of people.... and it is hard to do that in a school that teaches from a strict curriculum. Dude!! At first I thought you were about to make a joke about being bad at math with this dyscalculia thing, then I realized that half of those described me. So I looked it up. Wow, that's crazy. That would explain some things like why I have such a hard time with left/right, reading analog clocks, N/S/E/W, 'turning' maps, estimating distance. People have always been like "you're that smart and can't read a clock." But I actually do pretty well in calculus when just numbers are involved. The problem I have is bringing the numbers over into 'real-world' concepts. I'm also fairly good at poker. But wow, thanks for the info, even though it would have been good to know like 15-20 years ago.
laRubiaBonita Posted June 19, 2007 Posted June 19, 2007 Dude!! At first I thought you were about to make a joke about being bad at math with this dyscalculia thing, then I realized that half of those described me. So I looked it up. Wow, that's crazy. That would explain some things like why I have such a hard time with left/right, reading analog clocks, N/S/E/W, 'turning' maps, estimating distance. People have always been like "you're that smart and can't read a clock." But I actually do pretty well in calculus when just numbers are involved. The problem I have is bringing the numbers over into 'real-world' concepts. I'm also fairly good at poker. But wow, thanks for the info, even though it would have been good to know like 15-20 years ago. see... i recently looked into it, because i am far from stupid, but numbers kick my butt because i cannot seem to grasp them right... and the left and right hand thing, i am almost 30 and i DO know which is which, but i will usually stick out the opposite hand. here is a link HG... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyslexia
Topper Posted June 19, 2007 Posted June 19, 2007 of course it would have been better to catch it earlier. but she is still young and able to grasp that she is not stupid. I bet she is very intuitive. That she is able to size up a situation and have solutions before anyone has even seen a problem. There is a book I can't recall the author's name. The title is The Gift of Dyslexia. She is also at an age when some talents may be come out. Music or Art or dance something like that. Get her very involved with those things. A lot of the Artist are dyslectic. Some of the worlds great works of art were created by people with Dyslexia. The father of Modern Sculpting Rodin was Dyslexic. Albert Einstein is also said to be Dyslectic. Do a Google search on the subject. She is going to be an outside the box thinker. She seems to havea good teacher right now, with her higher then average IQ and some motivation she should be OK. some of what Bonita said applies to me. i can only tell left from right because i can snap my fingers with my right hand and not my left. i made it a habit to put my right hand fingers in a snapping position to tell left from right. I also could not tell time it untill very late in life. the hands and movement of the clock did not make sense to me. I can't spell. Thank God for spell check. however I will often use a word that might be spelled like the word I want to use and never see the mistake. I can read but I could never tell you word for word what I just read. I could give you a very detailed analysis of what the author was saying. But could not recite a passage back to you.
Author hotgurl Posted June 19, 2007 Author Posted June 19, 2007 see... i recently looked into it, because i am far from stupid, but numbers kick my butt because i cannot seem to grasp them right... and the left and right hand thing, i am almost 30 and i DO know which is which, but i will usually stick out the opposite hand. here is a link HG... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyslexia I do the sam ething I will be saying take a right but point left with my left hand grr.. thanks for the link
Author hotgurl Posted June 19, 2007 Author Posted June 19, 2007 of course it would have been better to catch it earlier. but she is still young and able to grasp that she is not stupid. I bet she is very intuitive. That she is able to size up a situation and have solutions before anyone has even seen a problem. There is a book I can't recall the author's name. The title is The Gift of Dyslexia. She is also at an age when some talents may be come out. Music or Art or dance something like that. Get her very involved with those things. A lot of the Artist are dyslectic. Some of the worlds great works of art were created by people with Dyslexia. The father of Modern Sculpting Rodin was Dyslexic. Albert Einstein is also said to be Dyslectic. Do a Google search on the subject. She is going to be an outside the box thinker. She seems to havea good teacher right now, with her higher then average IQ and some motivation she should be OK. some of what Bonita said applies to me. i can only tell left from right because i can snap my fingers with my right hand and not my left. i made it a habit to put my right hand fingers in a snapping position to tell left from right. I also could not tell time it untill very late in life. the hands and movement of the clock did not make sense to me. I can't spell. Thank God for spell check. however I will often use a word that might be spelled like the word I want to use and never see the mistake. I can read but I could never tell you word for word what I just read. I could give you a very detailed analysis of what the author was saying. But could not recite a passage back to you. she is like that. She can tell you the meaning of the passage but not the individual words. She played sax for three years but now wants to play guitar and her teacher is arragning something for next year after school. She draws manga and writes her own songs. We try to encourage her also I refuse to get cable. So we only have four tv stations one being pbs. For her I think it helps a lot because she can get so sucked in. I think I need to research it a little bit to have a better understanding of everything. When I first posted I was so fried because I was in that meeting for 2 hours and they throw so much stuff at you. She is great at math & science.
GALT Posted June 19, 2007 Posted June 19, 2007 Have you gotten a second opinion? Sometimes a diagnosis is off the mark. A friend of mine had a daughter that had special needs and the private school could not help. They "counseled her out". The parents enrolled her in a school that works with able learners with disabilities like dyslexia, etc at $25,000 a year. At the end of the year, it was determined that she did not need to be there at all--all she needed was some eyeglasses. The original school messed up on the eye test.
IfWishesWereHorses Posted June 20, 2007 Posted June 20, 2007 Both of my children have some type of learning disability. I have always found this fable encouraging and have always used its lesson in what I expect and allow the shcools to expect from my children. Back in 1940, a man by the name of George Reavis, who was superintendent of the Cincinnati Public Schools at the time, wrote a fable called The Animal School that is now in the public domain.[COLOR=#800080]*[/COLOR] The Animal School Once upon a time the animals had a school. They had to create a curriculum that would satisfy everyone, so they chose four subjects: running, climbing, flying, and swimming. To make it easier to administer the curriculum, ALL the animals, of course, studied ALL the subjects. The duck was excellent in swimming -- in fact, better than his instructor; but he made only passing grades in flying and was very poor in running. Since he was slow in running, he had to stay after school and also drop swimming in order to practice running. This was kept up until his web feet were badly worn, and he was only average in swimming. But average was acceptable in school, so nobody worried about that except the duck. The bear flunked because they said he was lazy, especially in the winter. His best time was summer, but school wasn't open then. The zebra played hooky a lot because the ponies made fun of his stripes, and this made him very sad. The rabbit started at the top of the class in running, but he had a nervous breakdown because of so much make-up work in swimming. The kangaroo started out at the top of the racing class, but became discouraged when was told to move swiftly on all four legs the way his classmates did. The squirrel was excellent in climbing until he developed frustration in the flying class, where his teacher made him start from the ground up instead of the treetop down. His legs got so sore practicing takeoffs that he began getting Cs in climbing and Ds in running. The eagle was a problem child and was disciplined severely. In the climbing class he beat all others to the top of the tree, but insisted on using his own way to get there. The fish quit school because he was bored. To him, all four subjects were the same, but nobody understood that because they had never seen a fish. The bee was the biggest problem of all, so the teacher sent him to Doctor Owl for testing. Doctor Owl said that the bee's wings were too small for flying and they were in the wrong place. The bee never saw Doctor Owl's report, so he just went ahead and flew anyway. I think I know a bee or two, how about you? At the end of the year an abnormal eel that could swim exceedingly well and also could run, climb, and fly a little had the highest average and was named valedictorian. The prairie dogs stayed out of school and fought the tax levy because the administration would not add digging and burrowing to the curriculum. They apprenticed their child to a badger and later joined the ground hogs and the gophers in order to start a successful private school. The duck is the child who does well in math and poorly in English and is given tutorials by the English teacher while his classmates are doing math. He loses his edge in math, and only does passably well in English. The eagle is the child who is turned into a troublemaker because he has his "own style" of doing things. While he is not doing anything "wrong," his non-conforming is perceived as troublemaking, for which he is punished. Who does not recognize the bear? The kid who is great in camp, thrives on extra-curricular, but really just goes flat in the academics. The zebra is the heavy, tall, or short, self-conscious kid whose failure in school few realize is due to a sense of social inadequacy. The kangaroo is the one who instead of persevering gives up and becomes that discouraged child whose future disappears because he was not appreciated. The fish is a child who really requires full special education and should not be in the regular classroom. The squirrel, unlike the duck who "manages," becomes a failure. The bee, oh the bee, is the child who the school just feels it cannot deal with, yet, against all odds, with the backing of his parents, has enough self-motivation to do well even though everyone thought he couldn't. I had the pleasure of knowing many bees. Your child is a unique blend of talents, personality, and ingredients nowhere else to be found. Some children are skilled intellectually, others are blessed emotionally, and many are born with creative ingenuity. Each child possesses their very own exclusive collection of gifts. The kids didn't come with direction booklets. Effective parents are always learning, studying, and customizing the instructions for their individual child. Each and every child is as unique as their fingerprints; a sparkling diamond of unparalleled beauty.
crazy_grl Posted June 23, 2007 Posted June 23, 2007 That was a great fable, and totally appropriate and true. Thanks for sharing, IWWH. These different types of "lexia" in this thread reminded me of this: "You know, Zapp, someone ought to teach you a lesson." "If it's a lesson in love, watch out. I suffer from a very sexy learning disability. What do I call it, Kiff?" *sigh* "Sexlexia."
Lizzie60 Posted June 23, 2007 Posted June 23, 2007 ever find out something you can't wrap your brain around? My daughter has some learning problems so we got her tested. We found out she does have deslexia. but the o ther piece is she is smart really smart. they keep going on and on about it. Does anyone know anything about iq etc.. her verbal iq was 136. Is that high? They really made a big big deal about it and I wondering if that means she is gifted. I was wondering if anyone know of any resources for dexlexia and perhaps smart kids. Does this mean my kid is smarter than me? My son was diagnosed with dyslexia when he was in grade school.... Anyway he had 'special' lessons on a one-on-one basis with a professional for a year.... It helped tremendously...he learned to read no problem... So after that... I got him a bood 'J'aime Lire', a collection for younger kids... he loved it... So I immediately started to 'boost' him with books... I got him subscriptions through his class then from book clubs for kids... Everytime we went shopping, if he asked for a book I would never ever refuse a book. Then when he got enough books.. I got him a nice bookshelf unit to put in his bedroom... He developed a passion for reading... which lasted until he was in high school...then he stopped... now he doesn't read as much. But I am persuaded that any parents can instil the 'taste' for reading to their kids... My daugher was already a book worm since she was able to read, and even when she was a baby, she just looooved books... still do.
corpusdelecti Posted July 4, 2007 Posted July 4, 2007 on a similar note, i suffer from dyscalculia... which is with numbers, not letters. here are some symptoms that i suffer from, in varying degrees: *Reliance on 'counting-on' strategies, e.g., using fingers, rather than any more efficient mental arithmetic strategies. *Difficulty with mental arithmetic, etc. *May do fairly well in subjects such as science and geometry, which require logic rather than formulas, until a higher level requiring calculations is needed. *Problems differentiating between left and right. *Having a poor sense of direction (i.e., north, south, east, and west), potentially even with a compass. *Difficulty navigating or mentally "turning" the map to face the current direction rather than the common North=Top usage. *Having difficulty mentally estimating the measurement of an object or distance (e.g., whether something is 100 or 200 feet away). *Inability to grasp and remember mathematical concepts, rules, formulae, and sequences. *Difficulty with games such as poker with more flexible rules for scoring. *Difficulty in activities requiring sequential processing, from the physical (such as dance steps) to the abstract (reading, writing and signaling things in the right order). May have trouble even with a calculator due to difficulties in the process of feeding in variables. *The condition may lead in extreme cases to a phobia of mathematics and mathematical devices. basically, i have to learn in math in a different way than the majority of people.... and it is hard to do that in a school that teaches from a strict curriculum. Oh my gosh, I didn't know this existed. I have a lot of these problems, too. I have to really thing about telling time, I am horrible at card games or counting scores in scrabble, I am 25 yet I still use fingers to do addition, and I have a professional degree but I have to carefully consider which hand is my left one!!! I'm looking up more about this...
RecordProducer Posted July 4, 2007 Posted July 4, 2007 on a similar note, i suffer from dyscalculia... which is with numbers, not letters. here are some symptoms that i suffer from, in varying degrees: *Reliance on 'counting-on' strategies, e.g., using fingers, rather than any more efficient mental arithmetic strategies. *Difficulty with mental arithmetic, etc. *May do fairly well in subjects such as science and geometry, which require logic rather than formulas, until a higher level requiring calculations is needed. *Problems differentiating between left and right. *Having a poor sense of direction (i.e., north, south, east, and west), potentially even with a compass. *Difficulty navigating or mentally "turning" the map to face the current direction rather than the common North=Top usage. I thought this phenomenon had a more common name: WOMAN!
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