loveinlife Posted June 17, 2007 Posted June 17, 2007 I guess im here to get some feedbacks bc i was referred to as too nice and the girl whom i like prefers bad boys.
MarinaAquamarina Posted June 17, 2007 Posted June 17, 2007 I once had a boyfriend who was too nice. I think what it was is that being too nice means there's no passion - he was a doormat and would do anything for me. It drove me mad! I mean, what are you like? Would you do anything for anyone even if you didn't want to do it?
Author loveinlife Posted June 17, 2007 Author Posted June 17, 2007 That makes sense. Thanks for sharing marina! =)
Tony T Posted June 17, 2007 Posted June 17, 2007 Well, I'm glad we got that subject taken care of in record time!
MarinaAquamarina Posted June 17, 2007 Posted June 17, 2007 I'm good at other people's relationships, just not my own, apparently! Useless! =)
Author loveinlife Posted June 17, 2007 Author Posted June 17, 2007 Marina, looks like it. I liked your example, esp since it came from your experience. I agree with what you said, it is very concise. Im bad at relationships too. *shrug* How's your love life going?
MarinaAquamarina Posted June 17, 2007 Posted June 17, 2007 http://www.loveshack.org/forums/showthread.php?p=1225072#post1225072 Read that....not great Maybe you can give me some advice now, return the favour!
cutegirl Posted June 18, 2007 Posted June 18, 2007 Because guys who "appear" as nice guys are usually not nice but even more devious because they have been able to cultivate this "good clean-cut image" while hiding their true natures. I think maybe 3 percent of the male population are truly nice guys. Most guys appear nice but they are just the same inside as the "Bad boys." Majority of men would cheat if they could get away with it, indulge in having sex with prostitutes, go on sex vacations in third-world countries and even more... Most guys I know who appear to be nice aren't nice, they are just better at camouflaging their true selves. They have a good image for the public and hide their true selves. There ARE no "good guys", whatever that means.
crosswordfiend Posted June 18, 2007 Posted June 18, 2007 Because guys who "appear" as nice guys are usually not nice but even more devious because they have been able to cultivate this "good clean-cut image" while hiding their true natures. That's right. And you should always be suspicious of someone with a flat affect. Or what about those people who are overly cheerful. Variety is the name of the game.
Vertex Posted June 18, 2007 Posted June 18, 2007 I wholeheartedly disagree. Many men would not cheat if given the chance.
Lady Aurora Posted June 18, 2007 Posted June 18, 2007 Because guys who "appear" as nice guys are usually not nice but even more devious because they have been able to cultivate this "good clean-cut image" while hiding their true natures. I think maybe 3 percent of the male population are truly nice guys. Most guys appear nice but they are just the same inside as the "Bad boys." Majority of men would cheat if they could get away with it, indulge in having sex with prostitutes, go on sex vacations in third-world countries and even more... Most guys I know who appear to be nice aren't nice, they are just better at camouflaging their true selves. They have a good image for the public and hide their true selves. There ARE no "good guys", whatever that means. Oh please, enough with the male bashing. Most MEN are nice guys. The "bad boys" are just that - BOYS. Sure there are the players and the jerks, but there are also the materialistic psycho chicks out there too. Men are different than women, you can't expect them to act the same or think the same way that women do. Try to appreciate them for what they are, and you may find you start running into a lot more than 3% of "nice guys". Aura
Pyro Posted June 18, 2007 Posted June 18, 2007 I wholeheartedly disagree. Many men would not cheat if given the chance. She is just bitter right now and venting away. Hopefully she will see the light and realize that what she says is inaccurate.
cutegirl Posted June 18, 2007 Posted June 18, 2007 She is just bitter right now and venting away. Hopefully she will see the light and realize that what she says is inaccurate. I am not bitter, what I said can be backed up by facts... A lot of people are unable to face the true facts and rather live in fantasy land. From menstuff.com Cheating spouse statistics confirm that 50 and 70 percent of married men (between 38 and 53 million men) have cheated or will cheat on their wives. One study found that 2/3 of the wives (26 to 36 million women) whose husbands were cheating had no idea their husbands were having an affair - largely because they failed to recognize the telltale signs. Also : Percentage of men who admit to cheating on their spouse in a 2000 New York Times poll: 45
McFadden Posted June 18, 2007 Posted June 18, 2007 I am not bitter, what I said can be backed up by facts... A lot of people are unable to face the true facts and rather live in fantasy land. From menstuff.com Cheating spouse statistics confirm that 50 and 70 percent of married men (between 38 and 53 million men) have cheated or will cheat on their wives. One study found that 2/3 of the wives (26 to 36 million women) whose husbands were cheating had no idea their husbands were having an affair - largely because they failed to recognize the telltale signs. Also : Percentage of men who admit to cheating on their spouse in a 2000 New York Times poll: 45 I agree with you. Actually I don't even think its suitable for men and women to have monogomous relationships. If that's what was intended why is it so hard to do? There are some kinds of birds and other creatures that are monogomous, humans aren't. Yeah as far as the nice guy thing, I don't think you should stop being a nice guy maybe you should just look for a girl that appreciates you. As long as it is not to the extent that you let people walk on you.
StayClose Posted June 18, 2007 Posted June 18, 2007 Cheating spouse statistics confirm that 50 and 70 percent of married men (between 38 and 53 million men) have cheated or will cheat on their wives. One study found that 2/3 of the wives (26 to 36 million women) whose husbands were cheating had no idea their husbands were having an affair - largely because they failed to recognize the telltale signs. Also : Percentage of men who admit to cheating on their spouse in a 2000 New York Times poll: 45 Did the survey also address how many cheating husbands had wives who have long since stopped having sex, or are very limted in the way they have sex?
Krytellan Posted June 18, 2007 Posted June 18, 2007 From menstuff.com Cheating spouse statistics confirm that 50 and 70 percent of married men (between 38 and 53 million men) have cheated or will cheat on their wives. One study found that 2/3 of the wives (26 to 36 million women) whose husbands were cheating had no idea their husbands were having an affair - largely because they failed to recognize the telltale signs. I won't get into the details, but lets just say that the "sample" used in this study was not exactly random. Those who responded were of a certain group of people.
Krytellan Posted June 18, 2007 Posted June 18, 2007 I guess im here to get some feedbacks bc i was referred to as too nice and the girl whom i like prefers bad boys. If you are young, hang in there. You are actually tooled to succeed if you are willing to put up with 10 years of being walked on. After that, when you get in your 30s, there are many more women who will appreciate what you have to offer. Just don't stop learning from your experiences... but don't let it change who you are.
bish Posted June 18, 2007 Posted June 18, 2007 I guess im here to get some feedbacks bc i was referred to as too nice and the girl whom i like prefers bad boys. Well, what comes around goes around. The women who go for the "bad boys" end up getting jilted...then all of a sudden those "bad boys" are scum. So then what happens? They date more bad boys and are continually surprised when the BB cheats or whatever. So if a nice guy is patient, he can be selective later on after these women come to their senses. But then, they should be damn selective. A girl once started taking a shining to me after all of her failed attempts with the jerks. But by that time, I wasn't interested in her whatsoever because I knew the kind of guys she liked. She even asked me one time why we never hooked up and I told her I wasn't enough of an as$$hole for her.
bish Posted June 18, 2007 Posted June 18, 2007 There ARE no "good guys", whatever that means. Well then, I guess you will be bowing out of the dating game then. I guess i could also say then that there are no "good" or "nice" women based on experience? Be very careful with the generalizations. They apply to you too.
Steveto Posted June 18, 2007 Posted June 18, 2007 well, the thing with nice guys is that most of the time, they become "too nice" which is a turn off. I used to be too nice..made myself available all the time, then I was like..wtf..she's not doing it for me..a relationship has to be a 2 way street...I don't mean this in a bad way and that you shouldn't do anything for them, but you need to find that fine line between too little and too much. Everyone is different...women as well as men enjoy the "chase"...I admit, even I do..too available means there is nothing to chase..no challenge...this kind of stuff has to be taken on a case by case basis.. Now this doesn't mean you have to be an arse to the person, just not be as available as you normally would be..that's all..but hey..what do I know..anything that could go wrong went wrong in my relationship history..haha..I have to look back..laugh and learn..
Pyro Posted June 18, 2007 Posted June 18, 2007 I am not bitter, what I said can be backed up by facts... A lot of people are unable to face the true facts and rather live in fantasy land. From menstuff.com Cheating spouse statistics confirm that 50 and 70 percent of married men (between 38 and 53 million men) have cheated or will cheat on their wives. One study found that 2/3 of the wives (26 to 36 million women) whose husbands were cheating had no idea their husbands were having an affair - largely because they failed to recognize the telltale signs. Also : Percentage of men who admit to cheating on their spouse in a 2000 New York Times poll: 45 I'm not denying that this world has lots of selfish male and females that would cheat when they get the chance but I think that you are going a little overboard with your "all/most men would cheat if they had the chance". Don't assume that most of us men would do that just because of what random poll you have read or if you had one or two bad experiences with men. I was cheated on before but I don't believe that most or all women are evil.
Lucky555 Posted June 18, 2007 Posted June 18, 2007 I go for nice guys BUT there are standards: The guy has to have confidence: This helps the girl know that he can handle her and whatever might come their way in a relationship The guy should do nice things for the girl: BUT not everything. I don't like it when a guy is like a dog waiting for me to tell him what to do or something. If he sees that i am carrying something heavy and he offers to help then i luv it. The should have a backbone: Don't tolerate a girl that wants you to drive her and her friends around everywhere. i mean once in awhile but do stand up for yourself POLITELY Know what you want! Do you want a relationship, do you want friends with benefits, don't say you don't know because you do know. Then at other times there is no chemistry: for instance, i met this nice guy at work, hes cute, but we just don't have chemistry. He goes to a great school, plays in a band, but just dont have that thing i guess. This girl may not have had chemistry with you. Try to find someone that you have similar interests with but carry yourself with dignity and self confidence . Don't be mad at her she just has a different preference but do move on and find more girls and see which ones you click with, then when you find a girl you do click with then focus on that.
roxy_1980 Posted June 18, 2007 Posted June 18, 2007 The "too nice" phenomenon is simple. Women only what to date one nice guy in their lifetime, the man she will marry. The bad boy syndrome is simply killing time and having fun. She does not want to be tied down yet. Consider "too nice" as "I'm still being self absorbed right, I don't have time for you. Maybe in 3-10 years."
burning 4 revenge Posted June 19, 2007 Posted June 19, 2007 Because guys who "appear" as nice guys are usually not nice but even more devious because they have been able to cultivate this "good clean-cut image" while hiding their true natures. I think maybe 3 percent of the male population are truly nice guys. Most guys appear nice but they are just the same inside as the "Bad boys." Majority of men would cheat if they could get away with it, indulge in having sex with prostitutes, go on sex vacations in third-world countries and even more... Most guys I know who appear to be nice aren't nice, they are just better at camouflaging their true selves. They have a good image for the public and hide their true selves. There ARE no "good guys", whatever that means.It's too bad Woggle is married, because you two were made for each other
bish Posted June 19, 2007 Posted June 19, 2007 The "too nice" phenomenon is simple. Women only what to date one nice guy in their lifetime, the man she will marry. The bad boy syndrome is simply killing time and having fun. So basically a "nice guy" that a woman marries is just a guy she is settling for. Not real fair to the "nice guy". Thats why "nice guys" need to get a prenup.
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