Tirai Posted July 9, 2007 Posted July 9, 2007 Rio, yes it's gonna, thanks for your words! Loved your post about the little sh_itbug ! Yes have found some great lines here in LS. Marlena, wouldn't that be something -seeing the same man and talking about him here But unless he's fastest man on earth we are just seeing bit similar men, with some exceptions, like this one talking a lot about relationship, emotions, commitment etc. Even the damage was done some time ago, we just recently split up. We were together bit over 2 years, so there was lot of good in this relationship too ofcourse to keep it going. The pain comes from letting go. Of him, and the hope like someone here so very well said. Also questioning myself and this relationship is not a joyride, necessity though. I dont wanna keep on repeating same mistakes. Am attracted to strong personalities so I'm in "danger zone". If i knew there was not another day left, i would definately run to his arms for the last hours, even after all this. But since there is no indication of such , i have to think about my well being on the long run. Have thought about that, him being some level of narcissist. But that wouldn't make me hate him, that would explain some things. Also the thought makes me feel sorry for him. If he was damaged that way, he would never find real happiness and peace in his life. About the performances, sometimes i felt like that too, and that was weird. He said something, as if he was reading a guidebook ”how to talk to a woman” - say this to get response that, but he sometimes made incredible mistakes placing those lines If yours is a narcissist, mostlikely he is very good at charming people -when he wants to. And he plays people left and right as long as he gets what he wants from them, as long as they are allowed. Him and the ones played at romatic level have one difference, the other party has emotions and empathy, and he doesn't. But this i'm sure you know already.
Tirai Posted July 9, 2007 Posted July 9, 2007 Well, more than one difference ofcourse, this being one of them
Tirai Posted July 12, 2007 Posted July 12, 2007 Keep on coming here, feels good to put some of it out. Have been reading some older posts at LS, copied one and put it on my wall. Time to vent. My previous mail makes me wanna puke. Met him 'bout week ago over some paperwork we had to do, and met him just couple of days ago to finish that. Actually went to his house cause he wanted to talk too, instead of just signing the papers. Lying and arrogancy stick so hard on this man it cant't be sctratched away. Even now, when we are finished he had the nerve to talk big words about us and our so called relationship and that he wants to keep in contact with me because we are just something else together, he has never had such a mind blowing strong and intence relationship, when he first saw me he thought this is a raw diamond that just needs being worked into something priceless and that turned being so (he was the master of that piece of art ofcourse), he is not sure about the s*x department but he goes absolutely crazy just looking into my eyes and being close to me and we never know what happens in this life blablabla, etc etc?!!!! *bad words* At some point he asked me if i still believe in people. I said that yes, i want to. U guys should have seen that face. He had played me left and right all the way and i am stupid enough to believe in people! It was written all over him. I feel sick. And the most sickening part was i was sitting there talking with him, listening to all this bulls* he's been feeding all the way and i still WANTED to believe him. Even i know NOTHING in this man is real or sincere. I wanna keep on kicking myself to head. No i will not have anything to do with him anymore (even temptated about some "practical jokes"), but i still wanted to believe there was atleast something real in this relationship. He must have been very devoted in his life practising his skills for this purpose, playing people. Anyways, originally i came to this thread because i saw it coming too. all the way. from the first times we met. I knew, there is something about him bothering me. But i let him take me into this wonderland of his and ignored all the signs, and eventually the cold facts when there was no "if's" left. This man who "lives and breathes just because of u" has a seasonal f*s at both countries. Now he is going back to Greece for a while, and I've marked to my calendar the day when he will contact me. I even know that pattern. It would be so great to listen and see him playing there, no doubt all the same lines and manoueuvres are in use. I'm at rage stage, having headaches and this sickening feeling in me. When i left him, i just felt releaved and thought this is how it was supposed to be long since. But going to listen that s** again the other night, seeing so thorougly through his acting, seeing that even now he thinks he is so superior he can fool me into anything again. Why didn't i do this long since. There's things i wish for him; he ends up marrying her (they're both cheaters), his d goes limp and he looses the rest of his hair. Best part about it i know atleast 2 of 3 will happen. Soon Now i feel bit better. Take care of yourselves u all, i will too
Author marlena Posted July 16, 2007 Author Posted July 16, 2007 Tirai, Why am I not surprised that yr boyfriend is Greek? Listen to what I have to say about Greek men. I should know. I have been in numerous relationships with them plus a 15 yr marriage. Greek men are, to a large extent, ruthless when it comes to playing women. They are also very arrogant and believe they are human beings with supreme intelligence who are far inferior to their female counterparts. They are narcissists. Have no doubt. I lot of this has to do with the way they are brought up by their mothers and the way Greek society views men as a whole. Females still seem to be second class citizens. They are reared from a very early age to think of themselves as privileged on the basis of their gender alone. They are so spoilt by their mothers that they are often very immature and irresponsible. Lying is a second nature to them. The saying "Beware of Greeks bearing gifts" has a strong basis. They are deceitful by nature it would seem. And they are good at it... Another thing to consider is that most Greek men rarely marry non - Greeks. They still hold the very conservative views that their country still upholds. Tradition is still very important in this country. Greek men have tough hearts. And the only way to deal with them is to be tough as well. They need to be dealt with with a firm hand - like the disobedient spoilt children they are. That said (of course I realizing I am grossly stereotyping - but their is much evidence to support the existence of ethnic traits) your man also seems to be have a host of personality disorders that he has not at all addressed. He is probably totally impervious to their existence. My ex is very very like yours. I have not seen him in two months. I finally realized the man was SICK mentally and I am staying away. So far I am doing well. Beware, dear Tirai, and protect yourself.
Tirai Posted July 18, 2007 Posted July 18, 2007 Hi Marlena Thanks for your words, you are here confirming the conclusions i made. You sure are living at rough terrain dear! I so wish i knew your existence while i used to visit there. Knowing there really being different kinds of people too would surely have been a fresh breeze! I also felt that the players were admired, well by views of his ofcourse. Very few people that i met actually spoke english. Met this foreign lady who was married to a greek and she was something else. She was such a fighter and the damn man just made her life difficult for being so immature and selfish. I felt like choking there. I was not only second class, i was third class for being a woman and also not speaking the language. I am not interested about getting married. He isn't either so that's why i wished he would end up into such. Mean. How are u doing now? I hope u, atleast once and a while, wake up in the mornings with a smile at ur face, being proud n happy bout yourself for taking care of yourself and making the right decisions. Take very very good care of yourself! hugs T
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