Author Shan2k Posted June 2, 2007 Author Posted June 2, 2007 I've seen hundreds of news stories of parents that have molested, abused and killed their own children. You may want to read about it even within the confines of LS. Once again, invalid argument, unless you want to debate about how much of the best times that men miss, of their childrens' lives when they are at work or out having a beer with their friends. That expected of the men since the beginning of time! Women have more of a connection with the baby instinctively because of the time it spent in her womb. It's innate Yeah, I heard those stories too. Those people a crazy though:lmao: I'm talking about the good mothers. Growing up, all of the screwed up crap I saw and heard happens when the parents were both at work. It's instinctive for the man to work and not be at home as much since the beginning of time. Women should stop trying to run away from that responsible now for money. Unless they have no choice! I have my own beliefs. Yeah, and why are we talking about this????
Trialbyfire Posted June 2, 2007 Posted June 2, 2007 That expected of the men since the beginning of time! Women have more of a connection with the baby instinctively because of the time it spent in her womb. It's innate Yeah, I heard those stories too. Those people a crazy though:lmao: I'm talking about the good mothers. Growing up, all of the screwed up crap I saw and heard happens when the parents were both at work. It's instinctive for the man to work and not be at home as much since the beginning of time. Women should stop trying to run away from that responsible now for money. Unless they have no choice! I have my own beliefs. Yeah, and why are we talking about this???? Refer to your post to InsanityImpaired. Substantiate your assumptions next time with some real arguments instead of referring to prehistoric mankind. Dinosaurs are extinct now.
Author Shan2k Posted June 2, 2007 Author Posted June 2, 2007 Refer to your post to InsanityImpaired. Substantiate your assumptions next time with some real arguments instead of referring to prehistoric mankind. Dinosaurs are extinct now. Ah oh! A women coming to another woman's rescue!! I'm tried of pulllin links from other site! Gosh, can you just go off of my word! LOL!! I guess you're atheist. Most women are who believe in money than motherhood. I love it! Money being the new GOD and all!
Author Shan2k Posted June 2, 2007 Author Posted June 2, 2007 Refer to your post to InsanityImpaired. Substantiate your assumptions next time with some real arguments instead of referring to prehistoric mankind. Okay, debunk millenniums of parenting with F'd up statistics of this word today! This civilizations is more screwed now than the Tin Man in the Wizard of Oz!
Trialbyfire Posted June 2, 2007 Posted June 2, 2007 Okay, debunk millenniums of parenting with F'd up statistics of this word today! This civilizations is more screwed now than the Tin Man in the Wizard of Oz! Yes, of course, the US debt and deficit were caused by women and so is global warming...
Trialbyfire Posted June 2, 2007 Posted June 2, 2007 Ah oh! A women coming to another woman's rescue!! I'm tried of pulllin links from other site! Gosh, can you just go off of my word! LOL!! I guess you're atheist. Most women are who believe in money than motherhood. I love it! Money being the new GOD and all! If your major concern is for the good of the children, I would hope you'd be willing to stay at home and look after the children.
Author Shan2k Posted June 2, 2007 Author Posted June 2, 2007 Refer to your post to InsanityImpaired. Substantiate your assumptions next time with some real arguments instead of referring to prehistoric mankind. Dinosaurs are extinct now. Gosh, heres your proof! [Article by: Rebecca Frey, PhD] Children of Working Mothers The NICHD Study of Early Child Care, or SECC, was launched in 1991 with the enrollment of a diverse sample of 1364 children at ten different locations across the United States. Phase I of the SECC study followed these children from birth through three years of age and was completed in 1994. Phase II followed the 1226 children who remained in the study from age three through second grade between 1995 and 2000. Phase III follows the remaining 1100 participating children through 2005. The SECC researchers reported in April 2001 that over 90 percent of the children enrolled in the study had spent some time in the care of people other than the mother, with 50 percent of the children spending 30 hours or more per week in the care of others. The report contained three major findings: A small minority of children (16%) who spent 30 hours or more per week in child care settings were reported to have higher levels of problem behaviors (such as fighting) than children who spent less time in care.The quality of nonmaternal child care makes a major difference. Children who were placed in high-quality childcare settings had better language skills and social/emotional development than those who were placed in centers with poorly trained adults or a high number of children per adult caregiver. (A good childcare center should have no more than five children per adult caregiver.) The study found that the type of care (relatives versus nonrelatives) was not significant.The most important single element in the children's development was their families of origin and the quality of their relationship with the mother when she was not at work. I have to find the other articles but it talked about how mother's who work have less control over their children growing up all the way to adulthood. They are less than likely to know what their children are doing. Look at it this way..... No parents around + Nannie and Daycare are not looked at as authority because they're not mommy or daddy + You were never there = disrespectful or mischievous children. But I guess it's prehistoric for a mother to stay at home with her child nowadays. How primitive of me! Get that dead weight out of you and dumb them on someone else to take care of. It's all about the money!$$$$$$$$$$$$:D:D:D:D ______________________________________________ whatever floats your boat and finds you lost remote in life.
Author Shan2k Posted June 2, 2007 Author Posted June 2, 2007 Yes, of course, the US debt and deficit were caused by women and so is global warming... What does that got to do with taking care of children? And first and for most... WHAT?
Trialbyfire Posted June 2, 2007 Posted June 2, 2007 Btw, the top tier US policy makers were primarily born in the 1930s, 40s and 50s, where the traditional family home was revered and women were stay-at-home mothers, at minimum, during their formative years. These men and women run the US, to create the state of the nation, as you now see it. What does this tell you from a logical instead of a misogynistic perspective?
Author Shan2k Posted June 2, 2007 Author Posted June 2, 2007 If your major concern is for the good of the children, I would hope you'd be willing to stay at home and look after the children. But thiers not more greater than a mother warm love:love:
Trialbyfire Posted June 2, 2007 Posted June 2, 2007 But thiers not more greater than a mother warm love:love: I've seen some excellent fathers. Man up and be one.
Author Shan2k Posted June 2, 2007 Author Posted June 2, 2007 Btw, the top tier US policy makers were primarily born in the 1930s, 40s and 50s, where the traditional family home was revered and women were stay-at-home mothers, at minimum, during their formative years. These men and women run the US, to create the state of the nation, as you now see it. What does this tell you from a logical instead of a misogynistic perspective? So the children have turn out better since mothers are working and leaving them in the care of others huh? That sounds like a money hungry, Misandrist perspective to me. What the hell was the world thinking all these years with these stay at home mothers! They've poisoned America before the woman's movement! I see the light!
Trialbyfire Posted June 2, 2007 Posted June 2, 2007 Gosh, heres your proof! I have to find the other articles but it talked about how mother's who work have less control over their children growing up all the way to adulthood. They are less than likely to know what their children are doing. Look at it this way..... No parents around + Nannie and Daycare are not looked at as authority because they're not mommy or daddy + You were never there = disrespectful or mischievous children. But I guess it's prehistoric for a mother to stay at home with her child nowadays. How primitive of me! Get that dead weight out of you and dumb them on someone else to take care of. It's all about the money!$$$$$$$$$$$$:D:D:D:D ______________________________________________ whatever floats your boat and finds you lost remote in life. Did you actually read the article? It's talking about quality vs non-quality daycare/childcare and the relationship between the mother and the child, when she wasn't at work. Try again...
Trialbyfire Posted June 2, 2007 Posted June 2, 2007 So the children have turn out better since mothers are working and leaving them in the care of others huh? That sounds like a money hungry, Misandrist perspective to me. What the hell was the world thinking all these years with these stay at home mothers! They've poisoned America before the woman's movement! I see the light! This is like debating with a two year old. If they can't debunk your theory, it gets personal and very silly. I'm bored.
Author Shan2k Posted June 2, 2007 Author Posted June 2, 2007 I've seen some excellent fathers. Man up and be one. Yeah, but there's nothing more greater than a mother's love! I'm proud of father's who step up to take care of their infant child when a mother can't do her instinctive job that GOD her. sad.... A woman's body was made for taking care of and infant! I don't want to even get into that!
Trialbyfire Posted June 2, 2007 Posted June 2, 2007 Yeah, but there's nothing more greater than a mother's love! I'm proud of father's who step up to take care of their infant child when a mother can't do her instinctive job that GOD her. sad.... A woman's body was made for taking care of and infant! I don't want to even get into that! The best part of all this is that we women have the freedom to choose whichever situation we want and there's nothing you can do about it. Freedom is wonderful.
Author Shan2k Posted June 2, 2007 Author Posted June 2, 2007 This is like debating with a two year old. If they can't debunk your theory, it gets personal and very silly. I'm bored. I feel that same way about you. I'm not getting personal. I'm actually having a good time. It's ridiculous how people value money over parenting responsibilities. You are going to do, what you have to do, for you're children. That's the mature answer. When I have kids I will want my wife to agree to staying home and taking care of them. That's just the way I am. Old fashion. Not misogynist or sexist. I have several female friends who agree with me. I was just trying to lighten up the mood! You're taking this too seriously. We all have different styles of parenting. And silly???? I just gave you some facts.
Author Shan2k Posted June 2, 2007 Author Posted June 2, 2007 No, what this boils down to is that you don't really care about the well-being of children in general. Your primary goal is to ensure that the woman stays at home and bows before her lord and master. The best part of all this is that we women have the freedom to choose whichever situation we want and there's nothing you can do about it. Freedom is wonderful. yeah, yeah! I AM WOMAN HEAR ME ROAR! I know the protocol. Here's another fact: Men lose testosterone when parenting and in marriage... http://www.hno.harvard.edu/gazette/2002/09.19/01-testosterone.html Read up on what low testosterone does to a man.
Trialbyfire Posted June 2, 2007 Posted June 2, 2007 I feel that same way about you. I'm not getting personal. I'm actually having a good time. It's ridiculous how people value money over parenting responsibilities. You are going to do, what you have to do, for you're children. That's the mature answer. When I have kids I will want my wife to agree to staying home and taking care of them. That's just the way I am. Old fashion. Not misogynist or sexist. I have several female friends who agree with me. I was just trying to lighten up the mood! You're taking this too seriously. We all have different styles of parenting. And silly???? I just gave you some facts. Facts? I saw nothing but unsubstantiated and illogical opinion while trying to refute my comments about the current government, in reference to the state of the nation. Here's your post: So the children have turn out better since mothers are working and leaving them in the care of others huh? That sounds like a money hungry, Misandrist perspective to me. What the hell was the world thinking all these years with these stay at home mothers! They've poisoned America before the woman's movement! I see the light!
Author Shan2k Posted June 2, 2007 Author Posted June 2, 2007 No, what this boils down to is that you don't really care about the well-being of children in general. Your primary goal is to ensure that the woman stays at home and bows before her lord and master. The best part of all this is that we women have the freedom to choose whichever situation we want and there's nothing you can do about it. Freedom is wonderful. No, what this boils down to is that you don't really care about the well-being of children in general. Your primary goal is to ensure that the woman stays at home and bows before her lord and master. The best part of all this is that we women have the freedom to choose whichever situation we want and there's nothing you can do about it. Freedom is wonderful. yeah, yeah! I AM WOMAN HEAR ME ROAR! I know the protocol. I do care about the child. That's why I want the mother to stay home and take care of it. And if she's going to "back out" of her GOD giving responsibility for money or to prove a feminist point, then I'll take care of him/her since she wants to be a b*tch about it! Here's another fact: Men lose testosterone when parenting and in marriage... http://www.hno.harvard.edu/gazette/2002/09.19/01-testosterone.html Read up on what low testosterone does to a man.
Author Shan2k Posted June 2, 2007 Author Posted June 2, 2007 Facts? I saw nothing but unsubstantiated and illogical opinion while trying to refute my comments about the current government, in reference to the state of the nation. Here's your post: Well, could you explain that a bit more????
Trialbyfire Posted June 2, 2007 Posted June 2, 2007 yeah, yeah! I AM WOMAN HEAR ME ROAR! I know the protocol. Here's another fact: Men lose testosterone when parenting and in marriage... http://www.hno.harvard.edu/gazette/2002/09.19/01-testosterone.html Read up on what low testosterone does to a man. Here's the title of the article: Marriage lowers testosterone and here's an excerpt from the article which debunks you once again. You may want to read your facts before providing them. It's basically saying that married men lose testosterone, not men parenting: The analyses showed little difference between married men with and without children, but both had significantly lower testosterone levels than unmarried fellows.
Author Shan2k Posted June 2, 2007 Author Posted June 2, 2007 Facts? I saw nothing but and illogical opinion while trying to refute my comments about the current government, in reference to the state of the nation. Here's your post: Well, what do you want statistics, probability, etc.,????????? You chose to believe it was unsubstantiated and illogical........... I didn't know I had to write a thesis for you.
Trialbyfire Posted June 2, 2007 Posted June 2, 2007 Well, what do you want statistics, probability, etc.,????????? You chose to believe it was unsubstantiated and illogical........... I didn't know I had to write a thesis for you. If you're going to debate with me, you'd best do your research first instead of coming at it from an emotional level.
Author Shan2k Posted June 2, 2007 Author Posted June 2, 2007 Here's the title of the article: Marriage lowers testosterone and here's an excerpt from the article which debunks you once again. You may want to read your facts before providing them. It's basically saying that married men lose testosterone, not men parenting: WOW so quick to debunk me!! JUst to prove your feminist point! http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qa3690/is_200609/ai_n17194464/pg_5 holding babies is parenting! Baby, baby doll, the same thing!!
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