Touche Posted June 3, 2007 Posted June 3, 2007 Honey, no, therapy is Not always nonsense. Take it from me, who has benefitted from therapy many times, as I saw it as a tool...like taking the car in for a tune-up or valve job. You choose a therapist the way you'd choose a mechanic or a surgeon; recommendations + chemstry; someone that feels right for you and your (brain/soul or car). And I have been treated for depression, thank god. Why not? Diabetics get treated for insulen problems, it's no different with seratonin. Don't be so dismissive, it's not in your best interest. I don't agree, Poly. I'm glad it helped you but sometimes it IS in one's interest to stay away from them. Seriously, I've seen them do more damage than good. It happened with my sister. They even had her convinced that she was molested as a child. Pure baloney. We were always together she and I. Raised like twins (14 months apart only) and I would have known over the years if she'd been molested. It's a load of BS and she bought it. Those therapists really screwed her up but good...more than she already was. Plus, I think she now has a pill problem. Anyway, I was in contact with Ruby earlier and she seemed in better spirits but she can tell you herself. She has a LOT on her plate now. And you all remember being that age..it's a very tough age. But I know she'll be ok. She has a good head on her shoulders. She's so bright as you are all aware. And she seems very industrious and motivated to me. I'm not worried about her at all. She's going to have a fine life. Just hang in there, Ruby. Progress may seem very slow. You may think that nothing will change but it will. Just keep doing your best. And don't hang around people who will bring you down. They will drag you under with them if you let them.
polywog Posted June 3, 2007 Posted June 3, 2007 I don't agree, Poly. I'm glad it helped you but sometimes it IS in one's interest to stay away from them. Seriously, I've seen them do more damage than good. It happened with my sister. They even had her convinced that she was molested as a child. Pure baloney. We were always together she and I. Raised like twins (14 months apart only) and I would have known over the years if she'd been molested. It's a load of BS and she bought it. Those therapists really screwed her up but good...more than she already was. Plus, I think she now has a pill problem. Anyway, I was in contact with Ruby earlier and she seemed in better spirits but she can tell you herself. She has a LOT on her plate now. And you all remember being that age..it's a very tough age. But I know she'll be ok. She has a good head on her shoulders. She's so bright as you are all aware. And she seems very industrious and motivated to me. I'm not worried about her at all. She's going to have a fine life. Just hang in there, Ruby. Progress may seem very slow. You may think that nothing will change but it will. Just keep doing your best. And don't hang around people who will bring you down. They will drag you under with them if you let them. Humbled, Touche. Thanks for clarifying.... I don't know Ruby so well, but am relieved to hear the news in your post. Please understand that I meant well. I know there are some mediochre or just plain bad therapists with agendas and stuff to prove, as your sister's story shows. But for the benefit of others who read this particular post, if one shops around there is much to be gained from a good therapist, as long as one regards them as a means to an end, a tool, and not a god/godess with infinite wisdom.
KittenMoon Posted June 3, 2007 Posted June 3, 2007 Hey Ruby- I'm amazed to see this thread. At the time you posted yesterday, I was literally just about to write you a long PM about how sad I was feeling, just because I needed and ear, y'know? Scary, huh? (Fortunately, my friends called me up at that moment and invited me out for BBQ.) Maybe it is the moon. I've been feeling very down lately. And, in all honesty, missing you-know-who very much. Which is strange since I haven't missed him much at all lately. But the moon is a spirit of ebb and flow, isn't it? So maybe it's ebb and flow is affecting our emotions at the moment. I've been telling myself not to fight it, just ride it like a wave, so I guess that's the best I can tell you as well. I hope today finds you feeling better.
Touche Posted June 3, 2007 Posted June 3, 2007 Humbled, Touche. Thanks for clarifying.... I don't know Ruby so well, but am relieved to hear the news in your post. Please understand that I meant well. I know there are some mediochre or just plain bad therapists with agendas and stuff to prove, as your sister's story shows. But for the benefit of others who read this particular post, if one shops around there is much to be gained from a good therapist, as long as one regards them as a means to an end, a tool, and not a god/godess with infinite wisdom. Yes, your last sentence is so true. One has to "shop" carefully. And it's so true that one shouldn't regard them as all-knowing...same with any other doctor for that matter. I didn't mean to imply that no one should go to them ever but I guess I am a little biased against them. You've correctly pointed out though that they can be a benefit.
Author ruby_gloom Posted June 3, 2007 Author Posted June 3, 2007 Honey, no, therapy is Not always nonsense. Take it from me, who has benefitted from therapy many times, as I saw it as a tool...like taking the car in for a tune-up or valve job. You choose a therapist the way you'd choose a mechanic or a surgeon; recommendations + chemstry; someone that feels right for you and your (brain/soul or car). And I have been treated for depression, thank god. Why not? Diabetics get treated for insulen problems, it's no different with seratonin. Don't be so dismissive, it's not in your best interest. I used to think like you not too long ago, but after having had a really nasty experience with a therapist and after listening to many lectures from professors whom were formerly clinical therapists, I've really become disheartedned with them. For one, most are so ridiculously expensive. When someone is just sad and in need of someone to talk to, it makes me cringe that they are being charged $50+ an hour. I understand that they need money, too, but I don't find making money from someone's sadness very dignitary. But that's just me. Sometimes I think the only people who should go to therapists are people with actual psychiatric problems, like schizophrenia, bi polar, and OCD and such, not "depression," which is what I have, if anything at all. When I went, this crazy woman was trying to convince me that I, because of my life, could easily engage in serial homicide (read: murder/killer). WTF. Oh yea. Me go on a killing spree. Dude, I feel bad when I step on ants, for goodness' sake. I have got to be one of the most non-violent saps I know. Killing spree. WTF. It pissed me off to no end because everything that I had told her had absolutely nothing to do with, uh, murder. I have absolutely no idea where she drew that insanely ridiculous conclusion from; it was like she wasn't even listened to me and had confused me with a prior patient or something, I swear. Whatever. And plus, I've found that I received much more advice, comfort, and support from talking to people who "know" me than that wretched woman who kept looking at the clock. Maybe I was just too boring to her and so she decided to kick things up by saying I was on the way to becoming the next Hannibal or something. WTF. I don't agree, Poly. I'm glad it helped you but sometimes it IS in one's interest to stay away from them. Seriously, I've seen them do more damage than good. It happened with my sister. They even had her convinced that she was molested as a child. Pure baloney. We were always together she and I. Raised like twins (14 months apart only) and I would have known over the years if she'd been molested. It's a load of BS and she bought it. Those therapists really screwed her up but good...more than she already was. Plus, I think she now has a pill problem. Anyway, I was in contact with Ruby earlier and she seemed in better spirits but she can tell you herself. She has a LOT on her plate now. And you all remember being that age..it's a very tough age. But I know she'll be ok. She has a good head on her shoulders. She's so bright as you are all aware. And she seems very industrious and motivated to me. I'm not worried about her at all. She's going to have a fine life. Just hang in there, Ruby. Progress may seem very slow. You may think that nothing will change but it will. Just keep doing your best. And don't hang around people who will bring you down. They will drag you under with them if you let them. Thanks. I'm not feeling all that better. Well, not right now, at least. I've been totally gorging on junk food; my pants feel a little tighter. Sigh. Anyways, I just wanted to point that I totally agree with you on the over medication shenanigans these therapists are pulling; it's all part of the big pharma scheme, I tell you. Plus, I already take more pills a day than I want. I don't need more. Any more will make me feel even less alive. Hey Ruby- I'm amazed to see this thread. At the time you posted yesterday, I was literally just about to write you a long PM about how sad I was feeling, just because I needed and ear, y'know? Scary, huh? (Fortunately, my friends called me up at that moment and invited me out for BBQ.) Maybe it is the moon. I've been feeling very down lately. And, in all honesty, missing you-know-who very much. Which is strange since I haven't missed him much at all lately. But the moon is a spirit of ebb and flow, isn't it? So maybe it's ebb and flow is affecting our emotions at the moment. I've been telling myself not to fight it, just ride it like a wave, so I guess that's the best I can tell you as well. I hope today finds you feeling better. Aw, my sweet kitten. I'm sorry you're feeling bad. Are you feeling a little better today? (I hope so! ) And you know what? I've been missing you-know-who quite a lot lately, too. And I've been having dreams. Oh those dreams that plague my very soul. Goddammit, I hate them. I wish I had retrograde amnesia. :( At least you're lucky in that you went out for a BBQ. I don't get to do much in this hick town, so if I want to do something, I have to drive down to where I used to live, and I have really not been in the spirits for that. Or anything else, for that matter. :( <--that's how I look right now. Eh, I went to rent some movies, but I don't feel like watching them anymore. Oh, and I bought a bag of mini Reeses Peanut Butter Cups. Wanna do half and half?
Storyrider Posted June 3, 2007 Posted June 3, 2007 I've been doing the nervous eating thing too. Last night I had a craving--KFC for dinner. Ewww. And we have bags of chips in our house that I did not buy. Guess who has been eating them? I'm totally with you on this one.
Author ruby_gloom Posted June 3, 2007 Author Posted June 3, 2007 My sister asked me if I'm trying to make myself explode and I said 'duh.' Today I ate for the first time since Thursday. I didn't eat anything on Friday because I felt so bad that food just sounded nasty. So, today I ate Hot Pockets. ... Yea, I know. And then I ate Doritos with nacho cheese and a Coke Zero. And then popcorn and some Whoppers and some Rocky Road ice cream. I'm almost done with the Doritos bag. It's those $3 bags; you know, the 'big' ones. Jesus. And next are the chocolates. And then more ice cream. I think I'm trying to stuff myself to death.
pelagicsands Posted June 3, 2007 Posted June 3, 2007 I think I'm trying to stuff myself to death. Maybe, as an experiment, we could freeze-dry you, and send you off to Africa. I wonder, which bit would they munch on first?
Storyrider Posted June 3, 2007 Posted June 3, 2007 Did you know if trail mix (with choc chips and m&ms in it) melts in the car and then you put it in the fridge, you get this praline-like concoction? Deadly.
Author ruby_gloom Posted June 3, 2007 Author Posted June 3, 2007 Maybe, as an experiment, we could freeze-dry you, and send you off to Africa. I wonder, which bit would they munch on first? They'd probably think I was too gross. Did you know if trail mix (with choc chips and m&ms in it) melts in the car and then you put it in the fridge, you get this praline-like concoction? Deadly. Oh yea? I'm going to have to try that. Too bad it's night time. Maybe if I put some in the microwave. I'm running out of chocolate syrup. :(
pelagicsands Posted June 3, 2007 Posted June 3, 2007 Did you know if trail mix (with choc chips and m&ms in it) melts in the car and then you put it in the fridge, you get this praline-like concoction? Deadly. Is that an improvement? Can you come over and melt me??
pelagicsands Posted June 3, 2007 Posted June 3, 2007 They'd probably think I was too gross. Well, you are what you eat. I think they would love a selection of American junk food.
Storyrider Posted June 3, 2007 Posted June 3, 2007 Is that an improvement? Can you come over and melt me?? It is an improvement in that it makes fewer crumbs, and you can eat it in bigger chunks. I would be willing to melt you, but I don't think that will help Ruby. Maybe she needs a big bag of raw carrots and sugar snap peas.
pelagicsands Posted June 3, 2007 Posted June 3, 2007 I would be willing to melt you, but I don't think that will help Ruby. We need to explore all options. And I think this is the best place to start. We could be at it all night, but it's all in the line of duty. Maybe she needs a big bag of raw carrots and sugar snap peas. Great idea! Very crunchy.
Author ruby_gloom Posted June 3, 2007 Author Posted June 3, 2007 Eww, no, I don't want carrots or peas. Peas are yucky, and I will not eat them. Just like I won't eat tomatoes. Yuck. Mmm. I'd very much like a vanilla sundae covered in chocolate syrup and sprinkled with crushed pecans right about now. Oh how yummy. I'm going to go make it. (I can't believe I'm eating so much. Yuck.)
pelagicsands Posted June 3, 2007 Posted June 3, 2007 Peas are yucky, and I will not eat them. Just like I won't eat tomatoes. Yuck. Interesting. Peas and tomatoes are both balls. Just different sizes. And different tastes, but there isn't that much taste to either. Do you have something against balls, or is it more that you prefer your balls to have a stronger flavour? I'd very much like a vanilla sundae covered in chocolate syrup and sprinkled with crushed pecans right about now. Make that a double. For yourself, I mean.
KittenMoon Posted June 3, 2007 Posted June 3, 2007 Aw, my sweet kitten. I'm sorry you're feeling bad. Are you feeling a little better today? (I hope so! ) And you know what? I've been missing you-know-who quite a lot lately, too. And I've been having dreams. Oh those dreams that plague my very soul. Goddammit, I hate them. I wish I had retrograde amnesia. :( At least you're lucky in that you went out for a BBQ. I don't get to do much in this hick town, so if I want to do something, I have to drive down to where I used to live, and I have really not been in the spirits for that. Or anything else, for that matter. :( <--that's how I look right now. Eh, I went to rent some movies, but I don't feel like watching them anymore. Oh, and I bought a bag of mini Reeses Peanut Butter Cups. Wanna do half and half? Well, don't feel much better today, but not much worse. It's weird, this sudden missing. I swear there are times when I feel "close" to him, and times when I feel "far". I don't quite know what that means, because it doesn't necessarily mean I'm thinking about him, its like this weird "in the back of my head" feeling. In any case, I think it's just severe PMS. I'm like, days late, and as the closer I get to my period, the more depressed I feel, I'm DYING TO BLEED. I'm blaming the moon for this one. Getting out at these times does help though- friends help. Luckily I've spent most of the weekend with my closest guy friend, whose wife more or less foists him on me on weekends so she can do her own thing, haha , it's like having a fake boyfriend sometimes. We went shopping (for a suit for his sister's wedding), to a movie (a violent one his wife didn't want to see), to the flea market this morning (she hates flea markets and we LOVE them), and like I said, we're all getting back together tonigth for dinner and video games. I swear I'd probably have lost it if not for these two friends. Go out, or if you can't, escape into a book. I find it helps get my mind off things. I'll be over for those PB cups soon!!!!!!
Author ruby_gloom Posted June 3, 2007 Author Posted June 3, 2007 Okay, I was just talking with someone on IM and I realized that it's all my fault for being a huge dumba$s. I guess they're right in that it is my fault for letting things get this way and for not knowing to how better handle these situations. Man, this is just too much.
pelagicsands Posted June 3, 2007 Posted June 3, 2007 I guess they're right in that it is my fault for letting things get this way and for not knowing to how better handle these situations. I think they might be the dumbarse. It takes two to build a relationship. Something tells me that you are putting in all the effort. And then taking all the blame. You're not Wonder Woman... or are you??
pelagicsands Posted June 3, 2007 Posted June 3, 2007 Well, don't feel much better today, Well... knock me over with a feather.
KittenMoon Posted June 4, 2007 Posted June 4, 2007 Okay, I was just talking with someone on IM and I realized that it's all my fault for being a huge dumba$s. I guess they're right in that it is my fault for letting things get this way and for not knowing to how better handle these situations. Man, this is just too much. Awww, stupid people. Ta heck with them. You're not a dumba$s, you're just normally flawed like the rest of us.
Author ruby_gloom Posted June 4, 2007 Author Posted June 4, 2007 normally flawed? hmm. i like that. ya know, i wish i had a friend around this slum. to go out and do stuff. maybe if i did i wouldn't be so sad. but the only friends i can make here are old, grouchy people who disapprove of my driving and piercings. they seem to wonder WTF i'm doing there. and i wonder too. we could watch movies and eat PB cups together after coming home from a long stroll at the flea market. which reminds me: i need to go buy some stuff there soon. ohh, vintage jewelry. but meh. i feel so chummy.
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