alphamale Posted June 3, 2007 Posted June 3, 2007 Have you noticed that nobody said anything like "I want to please my partner and see her enjoy it?" I want to please my partner and see her enjoy it...
Art_Critic Posted June 3, 2007 Posted June 3, 2007 Have you noticed that nobody said anything like "I want to please my partner and see her enjoy it?" or "I want to apologize for a screw-up and be forgiven" or "I want to make my wife feel sexy and beautiful"? That is because those are YOUR needs... Because a woman has those emotional needs doesn't mean that the the man must have those same emotional needs.. In case you haven't figured it out yet.. men and women are different and have different needs
RecordProducer Posted June 3, 2007 Posted June 3, 2007 Art... far from me having needs to indulge and spoil my husband! My needs also refer to me, me, me... Even if I want to please him, it's just because I want to keep him on a short leash... buwahahahaha!
GregsBad Posted June 3, 2007 Posted June 3, 2007 Have you noticed that nobody said anything like "I want to please my partner and see her enjoy it?" Hey dude! - or Dudess! I did. So you didn't take the time to read before you wrote this.
Member2 Posted June 3, 2007 Posted June 3, 2007 I have no emotional needs. Well I need the fantasy of RP when I go rub one out after a hard day at the office but that is a physical need.
pelagicsands Posted June 3, 2007 Posted June 3, 2007 Well I need the fantasy of RP when I go rub one out after a hard day at the office but that is a physical need. Interesting... that must make RP a Goddess.
pelagicsands Posted June 3, 2007 Posted June 3, 2007 I want to please my partner and see No worries there - it's only excessive masturbation that makes one go blind. You can go ahead and have sex as often as she'll let you.
RecordProducer Posted June 3, 2007 Posted June 3, 2007 Hey dude! - or Dudess! I did. So you didn't take the time to read before you wrote this.Greg, I was being facetious! It's natural to define your needs according to your own self. As much as I love my kids and I want them to eat well and enjoy the food, I can't enjoy any food that I am not eating, right? And I love MY kids, My parents, MY husband, because they are MINE. Everything IS about me, me, me... Your needs to make your lady happy are directed toward your need to be appreciated and admired for what you're doing. You ant to feel good about yourself, which is completely normal. But it's still selfish! (Just like we all are...)
GregsBad Posted June 3, 2007 Posted June 3, 2007 Your needs to make your lady happy are directed toward your need to be appreciated and admired for what you're doing. You ant to feel good about yourself, which is completely normal. But it's still selfish! (Just like we all are...) Sooooo true! I work hard at it. I do so many things to float her boat and make her happy, because it makes me feel so good. But you're so right! Is it connected to, "There is more happiness in giving"?
GregsBad Posted June 3, 2007 Posted June 3, 2007 ... Everything IS about me, me, me... Yes! And sometimes when I manage to make it really good for her ... Afterward I feel like going into another room and doing the the gorilla chest beat .... and grunt loudly, "oooooh ... ooooooh .... oooooh"! But I'm way too sophisticated for that. How about if I sang "Hail to the chief" ... or finished with Mahamud Ali's "I am the greatest!" No ... I'm too reserved for either of those too. Then one time she sang my praises ... cooing about how wonderful it was. Just as I was about to beat my chest she snuggled closer and said sweetly ... "Do it again!" And I knew I was in trouble, my heart sank ... because I just gave her all I had
SadForever Posted June 3, 2007 Posted June 3, 2007 Bullshlt! When you fall in love with someone, you have certain emotional needs directed to that person! You want to feel loved back, appreciated, admired... What you guys are talking about is a determination that you will not depend on any woman emotionally. In that case you have to stay out of love... only because you're afraid to get hurt. Cowards! well said, i totally agree. so many guys view that as being weak and needy.
Pyro Posted June 3, 2007 Posted June 3, 2007 well said, i totally agree. so many guys view that as being weak and needy. Sad but true. Maybe you gals need to remind guys that it will not make them look any less of a man to admit to that. Some people just need to be told things over and over before they believe it.
SadForever Posted June 3, 2007 Posted June 3, 2007 Sad but true. Maybe you gals need to remind guys that it will not make them look any less of a man to admit to that. Some people just need to be told things over and over before they believe it. And most guys will hear that as nagging...not reminding. then they tune out. Not that we still dont try. At least i do.
alphamale Posted June 3, 2007 Posted June 3, 2007 so many guys view that as being weak and needy. many women also look at it as being weak and needy. if women were attracted to men who were emotional cripples then men would probably behave differently.
Pyro Posted June 3, 2007 Posted June 3, 2007 many women also look at it as being weak and needy. if women were attracted to men who were emotional cripples then men would probably behave differently. Well then those are the wrong type of women to be getting involved with. Simple as that.
Pyro Posted June 3, 2007 Posted June 3, 2007 And most guys will hear that as nagging...not reminding. then they tune out. Not that we still dont try. At least i do. The unfortunate thing is that it seems like that a majority of men are terrible listeners and communicators. If they take the time to improve on that, then they wouldn't consider it nagging, but what can you do?
SadForever Posted June 3, 2007 Posted June 3, 2007 many women also look at it as being weak and needy. if women were attracted to men who were emotional cripples then men would probably behave differently. again, your response proves this point: Originally Posted by RecordProducer Bullshlt! When you fall in love with someone, you have certain emotional needs directed to that person! You want to feel loved back, appreciated, admired... What you guys are talking about is a determination that you will not depend on any woman emotionally. In that case you have to stay out of love... only because you're afraid to get hurt. Cowards!
GregsBad Posted June 3, 2007 Posted June 3, 2007 And most guys will hear that as nagging...not reminding. then they tune out. Not that we still dont try. At least i do. It's great that you still try. Your avatar tells me that you see caring too much as a weakness in yourself. So you can easily understand how a guy would see all of this as a weakness.
Art_Critic Posted June 3, 2007 Posted June 3, 2007 A female nagger can be classified in one of four groups: The Innocent: This is the one nagger that doesn't really mean to nag. She brings up problems that she has to make you aware of, but tries to do so without making you angry or starting an argument. Chances are her intentions are good, she just needs a little work on her approach. The Chatterbox: This nagger never seems to stop. But her nagging rarely escalates into real fights because you've probably learned to effectively zone her out (by the way, this is a good method that I'll cover later; just don't let her catch you). The Riddler: Ah, the nagger that nags without nagging (say that five times fast). She says things like, "Would you like to try and guess why the green plates are not in the cabinet?" You have no idea what she's talking about and she knows it, otherwise why would she be asking in the first place? The T-Rex: If she doesn't rip your head off while screaming at you, you got away lucky. It seems as though she actually grows horns when the nagging starts, the room gets a little darker, you know it's coming and there's no place to run. Scientific studies conducted within the laboratories showed conclusive evidence that she may very well be one of Satan's minions. Good luck with all that.
SadForever Posted June 3, 2007 Posted June 3, 2007 It's great that you still try. Your avatar tells me that you see caring too much as a weakness in yourself. So you can easily understand how a guy would see all of this as a weakness. thanks. it is just natural for me to try. my avatar is meant to be more tongue-in-cheek...its more like i believe HE thinks my weakness is that i care too much, and probably every guy i've been in a relationship with. i wish i didnt care so much only because of how much it can hurt.
SadForever Posted June 3, 2007 Posted June 3, 2007 so basically you're saying whenever a woman tries to communicate about a possible issue, she is nagging. and your preferred method of communication is? none at all? seems that's what many guys would prefer. and lack of communication = no relationship. A female nagger can be classified in one of four groups: The Innocent: This is the one nagger that doesn't really mean to nag. She brings up problems that she has to make you aware of, but tries to do so without making you angry or starting an argument. Chances are her intentions are good, she just needs a little work on her approach. The Chatterbox: This nagger never seems to stop. But her nagging rarely escalates into real fights because you've probably learned to effectively zone her out (by the way, this is a good method that I'll cover later; just don't let her catch you). The Riddler: Ah, the nagger that nags without nagging (say that five times fast). She says things like, "Would you like to try and guess why the green plates are not in the cabinet?" You have no idea what she's talking about and she knows it, otherwise why would she be asking in the first place? The T-Rex: If she doesn't rip your head off while screaming at you, you got away lucky. It seems as though she actually grows horns when the nagging starts, the room gets a little darker, you know it's coming and there's no place to run. Scientific studies conducted within the laboratories showed conclusive evidence that she may very well be one of Satan's minions. Good luck with all that.
Art_Critic Posted June 3, 2007 Posted June 3, 2007 so basically you're saying whenever a woman tries to communicate about a possible issue, she is nagging. and your preferred method of communication is? none at all? seems that's what many guys would prefer. and lack of communication = no relationship. Why are you nagging me ?????
SadForever Posted June 3, 2007 Posted June 3, 2007 Why are you nagging me ????? hahaha that was a good one
GregsBad Posted June 3, 2007 Posted June 3, 2007 again, your response proves this point: I agree with Alpha on his point. Many men LEARN to appear non needy because it's what works! If being a cripple would work, some of us would go get crippled. It's because men love women and want women that they figure out how to get what they want. When a woman says, "You can trust me with your heart" I think it's a deeply motivated test (of him) from within her genes. She doesn't know it but what she's really saying is, "Show me if your weak because I don't want you if you are." She really WANTS him to stay strong, but the test must be a real test. If he gives in and shows his underbelly to her, he loses some of his attraction in her eyes.
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