ilmw Posted May 30, 2007 Posted May 30, 2007 Ok... help me out here... TB what are you going to do... there is 9 pages already... and I'm not sure if I missed something... You going to still see this woman... or say... bye, bye...
Author tanbark813 Posted May 30, 2007 Author Posted May 30, 2007 Ladies, please stop the sex talk about Tanbark. I seriously CANNOT CONCENTRATE!!!!!!!!!! (Back to work....) Hang in there, lil' trooper! Ok... help me out here... TB what are you going to do... there is 9 pages already... and I'm not sure if I missed something... You going to still see this woman... or say... bye, bye... It was actually stated toward the end of the OP that she called things off last night. So it's over at this point. I posted mainly for feedback/other perspectives and to vent a little.
ilmw Posted May 30, 2007 Posted May 30, 2007 It was actually stated toward the end of the OP that she called things off last night. So it's over at this point. I posted mainly for feedback/other perspectives and to vent a little. Ok... that was the vibe I was getting.. but did not want to post anything... until sure... You've had so many posts.. I must have missed it... So.. that was one strange situation... all that oral... and no completing the deal....
SouthernT Posted May 30, 2007 Posted May 30, 2007 I agree with what you are saying - this is the way it is. I don't agree with the principal though. It just seems like silly games to me. For me, I would much rather a woman and I be able to talk about issues of this nature. If two grown adults can't sit down and discuss this issue, then what do you really have? It's not necessarily a game. People just dont realize that their minds work this way. Yes it seems obvious that two grown adults should be able to sit down and talk. But when a girl tries to do this with a guy when she wants a relationship, having "THE TALK" never works. It has the opposite affect. And its the same concept when a guy wants sex from a girl. It's not necessarily playing games, its just the way the human mind works.
alphamale Posted May 30, 2007 Posted May 30, 2007 The whole conversation sucked even moreso because then I felt slimy for sounding like I'm trying to convince her. grovelling for sex is quite unbecoming for a man...
Art_Critic Posted May 30, 2007 Posted May 30, 2007 grovelling for sex is quite unbecoming for a man... do you really think it was groveling ?.. To me it was him setting a boundary in the relationship.. it wasn't like they just started dating.
Author tanbark813 Posted May 30, 2007 Author Posted May 30, 2007 grovelling for sex is quite unbecoming for a man... Word. (And I actually expected harsher feedback from you. )
alphamale Posted May 30, 2007 Posted May 30, 2007 do you really think it was groveling ?.. yes, women hate hearing that crap from men. i'll let you in on a little secret ART....the less of an issue you make of sex the quicker you'll get it
alphamale Posted May 30, 2007 Posted May 30, 2007 (And I actually expected harsher feedback from you. ) if she hasn't put out after that long then you just move on. in my experience the greater the mutual chemistry between a couple the quicker they have sex.
Author tanbark813 Posted May 30, 2007 Author Posted May 30, 2007 yes, women hate hearing that crap from men. i'll let you in on a little secret ART....the less of an issue you make of sex the quicker you'll get it I dunno, man. It wasn't even mentioned in the first month (aside from her bringing it up after the first date) and it didn't happen then either.
peace_pipe Posted May 30, 2007 Posted May 30, 2007 But when a girl tries to do this with a guy when she wants a relationship, having "THE TALK" never works. It has the opposite affect. Possibly because his heart was never in it, before the talk. I personally would be flattered if a girl I was dating AND liked had this conversation with me.
Art_Critic Posted May 30, 2007 Posted May 30, 2007 i'll let you in on a little secret ART....the less of an issue you make of sex the quicker you'll get it there have been cases in my life that it holds true..and cases that it hasn't My ExW and I had a similar arrangement that Tanbark did with his girl.. It took over 2 months to have sex with her.. but I was getting and giving oral since about week 2.. But I used my sexual power over her and made her succumb to me :DOf Of course we did divorce.. So it really doesn't matter. In the relationship I have now I make it a big deal.. getting and having sex.. it is important.. but it is also important to her Win Win...
reservoirdog1 Posted May 30, 2007 Posted May 30, 2007 Tan... frankly, I've never understood the position of women who will rock with the head repeatedly but withhold sex because it's "too intimate". It makes no sense to me that a woman can slobber on a guy's knob dozens of times, and yet still be able to convince herself that they haven't been "intimate". (Especially if she's let him go down on her -- Tan, has that happened yet?) It's as though that subset of women have collectively bought into the Clintonian definition of "sexual relations". Ask any woman whose husband got BJs from another woman whether or not SHE thinks her H and the OW have been "intimate". Personally -- and assuming that she has no repressed traumatic issues to do with sex -- I think she's trying to convince herself that she's still a "good girl" who's still got the upper hand because she's made the guy wait almost two months. And if that's the case, she's deluded. So she's prepared to get you off with her mouth a bunch of times in order to avoid intimacy, and somehow THAT's okay with her sensibilities? Weird. I see nothing wrong with telling her that you're okay with her holding her view about what your mutual sex life consists of, but it's not consistent with yours. People have different needs, and if they can't be met, then you both move on.
alphamale Posted May 30, 2007 Posted May 30, 2007 well i went out with this broad a few months ago, Peggy was her name. After 3 dates....nothing except for some heavy petting (and it was heavy, trust me!). So I decided to give her one more chance. We went out on date 4 and had fun. We ate edamame and some asian food, few drinks. We get back to her crib and she didn't invite me in. So I never called her again. I didn't even like her that much anyways but I would have banged her.
Author tanbark813 Posted May 30, 2007 Author Posted May 30, 2007 Especially if she's let him go down on her -- Tan, has that happened yet? Yes, it's gone both ways a number of times. This sex talk is really getting to me. I, for one, have had it up to the balls with all this discussion of sucking cock and licking pussy until each person cums all over the other's face. Enough!
allina Posted May 30, 2007 Posted May 30, 2007 well i went out with this broad a few months ago, Peggy was her name. Alpha and Peggy? That just sounds awkward
Star Gazer Posted May 30, 2007 Posted May 30, 2007 I, for one, have had it up to the balls with all this discussion of sucking cock and licking pussy until each person cums all over the other's face. Enough! That's oral talk, not sex talk.
Star Gazer Posted May 30, 2007 Posted May 30, 2007 I didn't even like her that much anyways but I would have banged her. Poor Peggy. I can officially say, Alpha, that your behavior is my worst nightmare in a guy I really like (and I say that with as much love as possible!!).
champagne Posted May 30, 2007 Posted May 30, 2007 Apparently you missed the part where I said we knew each other for two years beforehand and it was already established that I wanted more than just sex. And, again, if I only wanted sex it would be easy to wait. Players love girls like you. Apparently it wasn't apparent to her that you just wanted sex. Only she could answer to that.
reservoirdog1 Posted May 30, 2007 Posted May 30, 2007 I, for one, have had it up to the balls with all this discussion of sucking cock and licking pussy until each person cums all over the other's face. Enough! Hear hear. Life is about passion and connection. It's not about cocks and balls, the Dirty Sanchez, the Cincinatti bowtie, the rusty trombone, or butthole pleasures.
Author tanbark813 Posted May 30, 2007 Author Posted May 30, 2007 Apparently it wasn't apparent to her that you just wanted sex. Only she could answer to that. Last time: I wanted more than sex. If you still don't understand that, I can draw you a picture. Hear hear. Life is about passion and connection. It's not about cocks and balls, the Dirty Sanchez, the Cincinatti bowtie, the rusty trombone, or butthole pleasures. Great movie.
Star Gazer Posted May 30, 2007 Posted May 30, 2007 Last time: I wanted more than sex. If you still don't understand that, I can draw you a picture. I don't understand. Please draw.
Author tanbark813 Posted May 30, 2007 Author Posted May 30, 2007 I don't understand. Please draw. TB > 8===D~~~( Y )
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